Newbie 1104 -- Game over

[Espeonage]

yeah these take a while. very daunting. Remember no rush. @ TS, I've seen newbies ask if they should claim after being put to L-2 on the first page. Anything is possible.

Unvote

Need to do a reread. Not sold on gb = town though.

[Twistedspoon]

I had meant to add to my last post that I would guess a newbie game typically lasts somewhere around a month to a month and a half. A more experienced player can correct me if I'm wrong.

each day lasts a max of 3 weeks

[Twistedspoon]

@ TS, I've seen newbies ask if they should claim after being put to L-2 on the first page. Anything is possible.

uh huh

and were they town or scum?

town I'm guessing

[Lord of Graves]

Vote: Frostbite

So he hasn't been around and I don't even think he confirmed then he swoops in and puts a guy at L-1. Lurking plus trying to get a quick lynch on the fifth page. Smells like scum.

But my main reason is because he said he wanted to stay alive. Newbie reasoingn? Maybe. But only scum should ever try to appease town.

[Twistedspoon]

But my main reason is because he said he wanted to stay alive.

so you see this as more newb scum than newb town?

you don't think that newb town would be worried being killed more than being lynched?

[CaptainCuddles]

I think it could be noob town because if I were scum, I would've totally jumped on my noobiness and bandwagoned when people started to change their votes to me. I'm keeping my vote on Frostbite because he's the only one I see suspicious atm.

[Twistedspoon]

is Razgriz alive?

[CaptainCuddles]

Yeah I think he's getting replaced though.

[gbevilchaos]

vote gbevilchaos

This is just my noobiness showing but bandwagoning possibly wil keep me from dying day 1

Before I state my opinions on the post in question, I would like to hear a response from Frostbite. He hasn't posted since then.

[forest_air]

I also find it interesting how everyone starts to put attention on Frostbite after Lord of Graves mentions it.

I think it could be noob town because if I were scum, I would've totally jumped on my noobiness and bandwagoned when people started to change their votes to me. I'm keeping my vote on Frostbite because he's the only one I see suspicious atm.

You seem to be lying about being a townie, even though you are obviously scum.

[gbevilchaos]

I think the bandwagon after Lord of Graves claim is based on noobish gameplay. Everyone should evaluate the claim before they vote. Votes shouldn't change based only on one little post. Just look at what happened to me. The RVS votes that were meant to put pressure on me turned into L-1 due to a bandwagon when there was literally no evidence at the time of me doing anything scummy. We should evaluate everything and find clear proof of scummy behavior before we start bandwagoning. We want to lynch a scum if at all possible on Day 1, because it would put us in a great situation (7 town, 1 mafia).

[Espeonage]

Razgriz hasn't posted in the other game we have together either.

[noragar]

Unvote

Just taking my RVS vote away from gbevil since there's really no reason to have it there anymore.

I have the same suspicions as others about CC and Frostbite, but nothing yet to indicate whether it's newb play or scum play, so we'll see what happens. Looking forward to getting some content from the Raz spot.

[gbevilchaos]

Is Raz being replaced? As a SE, he's important to the newbie game. His absence leaves us with less experience to draw on, and a disadvantage to us if he happens to be scum. We can't figure out whether or not he's scummy if he's not here. :/

[Espeonage]

Razgriz has played three games. Not very experienced. By definition SEs have just played at least two games.

@ gb: Welcome to what is known as lurking. he will be replaced if he doesn't show. Best forget about him.

In other news I have yet to reread.

[gbevilchaos]

@Espeonage - Is lurking a frequent problem on this forum? It seems like a jerk move to sign up for a game and then decide not to show up...

And even with only 3 games played, he's more experienced than those with zero.

Also, still waiting for a response from Frostbite. I will take a lack of response within the next day or so as an indication of guilt. I'm a relatively open minded person and am happy to hear you out completely, but you need to say

something

or you'll get my vote.

[Espeonage]

@Espeonage - Is lurking a frequent problem on this forum? It seems like a jerk move to sign up for a game and then decide not to show up...

Kinda not really, but that is what replacements are for.

...no comment...

He could have irl issues or any number of other explainations.

[Twistedspoon]

He could have irl issues or any number of other explainations.

yeah, I knew someone on an old forum who got hit by a car :/
she survived, but it just shows that anything can happen irl

[198Frostbite]

Unvote

OK, sorry, let me explain.
As this

is

my first time playing I kind of assumed that the game would be quicker
so I reacted out of self preservation. Also, the fact that I rarely post isn't to do with scummyness
it is because I live in Ireland, which is GMT and also go to a boarding school, which really limits
my time on the computer. So I can only get on every now and then, which you may see as suspicious.
Lesson learned though.

[Twistedspoon]

it is because I live in Ireland, which is GMT and also go to a boarding school

STOP RIGHT THERE

that is the most awesome thing I read all day

I's great to know I'm not the only GMT'er here
and tbh, I always wanted to go to a boarding school after reading harry potter :p

you sir are avery cool person

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back on topic:

So who do you find scummy? Do you think anyone on your wagon (anyone who voted you) or otherwise may be scum?

[Nobody Special]

chkflip replaces Razgriz effective immediately.

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.04

198Frostbite - 2 - CaptainCuddles, Lord of Graves
CaptainCuddles - 1 - Twistedspoon
Twistedspoon - 1 - forest_air

Not Voting: chkflip, gbevilchaos, Espeonage, noragar, 198Frostbite

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: June 3.

V/LA: ...

[CaptainCuddles]

I also find it interesting how everyone starts to put attention on Frostbite after Lord of Graves mentions it.

I think it could be noob town because if I were scum, I would've totally jumped on my noobiness and bandwagoned when people started to change their votes to me. I'm keeping my vote on Frostbite because he's the only one I see suspicious atm.

You seem to be lying about being a townie, even though you are obviously scum.

I like that vote on TS you got there....

[chkflip]

Couple questions regarding acronyms. I've these two used commonly: RVS and V/LA. What do they mean? Is there an acronym page on the wiki?

RVS: Random Voting Stage. Most Mafia games start with a phase wherein people vote for silly reasons, until someone slips up or makes a legitimate accusation.

V/LA: Vacation/Limited Access thread, where players should post if they won't be checking MafiaScum.net for more than a few days.

Glossary is here:
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... reviations

Scum skimming detected. Easy town cred attempt detected.

FoS

: noragar

Revenge vote:

Unvote, Vote:gbevil

I think we can afford to be wrong once, no matter how scummie that might sound.

Obviously terrible things are obvious.

See also: get an avatar.

OK, this game needs some experience. I'm here. /ego

TROLOLOL

Pine replaced you in [ongoing game], looked much more town, and still got lynched. /ego should read /awfulsarcasm. #justsayin

vote gbevilchaos

This is just my noobiness showing but bandwagoning possibly wil keep me from dying day 1

Frost, I share Spoon's disdain with two L-1's coming within five pages.

However, I think it's good, though, it means we've got a lot of fresh talent to play with and hopefully entice into sticking around to play more than just newbie games.

I implore everyone to stick to it -- yes, there will be points where this newbie game drags on (partly due to long deadlines) and yes, there will probably be a lot of replacements as we go later into the game, but take this as a learning experience and you'll be a lot more adaptive to any real game you choose to jump into on this site.

See also: get an avatar.

I've only played with Espe and that was only for a part of a day phase in the aforementioned ongoing game we won't mention, so I also look forward to playing with a new set of people.

I almost cried on P3 when you guys started on about set-up... then I realized this isn't F11 and was like "Oh."

Shout-out to Nobody Special for being nobody special.

PEDIT: CC, I know forest's accusations and question process leaves little avenue for you, but please try to keep to your win condition and not waffle/fluff posts like you just did there.

[gbevilchaos]

Unvote

OK, sorry, let me explain.
As this

is

my first time playing I kind of assumed that the game would be quicker
so I reacted out of self preservation. Also, the fact that I rarely post isn't to do with scummyness
it is because I live in Ireland, which is GMT and also go to a boarding school, which really limits
my time on the computer. So I can only get on every now and then, which you may see as suspicious.
Lesson learned though.

Thanks, that more or less explains it.

Remember, it doesn't matter whether you die or not in the game (as silly as that sounds). It matters whether town or scum wins. If town wins and a townie is dead, that townie will still have "won" the game. Therefore, self preservation isn't as important as finding and lynching the scum. It's a team game.

Also, I wish I went to a boarding school. That is all.