Mini 1170: Nowhereville Mafia '11- Over!

[Elfen]

RVS sparks discussion. We're out of RVS.

I know that. I know all about it ...

[SleepyKrew]

Oh dear, which one to vote?

[Elfen]

Umm can you tell me why you voted for Kalofer and where does it say he likes bandwagons? I have read th thread, not once did he say it >_>

[Espeonage]

This is either going to be a long game or a short one.

Calling scumteam now as SleepyKrew, Elfin and Kool.

Vote: Elfin

[SleepyKrew]

Kalofer, if you think my logic is scummy, what sets me apart from the rest that are using it? Just ISO Elfen.

Nothing sets you apart, it's just that NEvil had already voted for you and I like bandwagons.

Obviously you didn't read well enough Elf.
Esp, reasoning?

[SleepyKrew]

Also, where is the mod?

[Espeonage]

Esp, reasoning?

Of course I have reasoning.

[Elfen]

Kalofer, if you think my logic is scummy, what sets me apart from the rest that are using it? Just ISO Elfen.

Nothing sets you apart, it's just that NEvil had already voted for you and I like bandwagons.

Obviously you didn't read well enough Elf.
Esp, reasoning?

Oh, and eewewwwww I almost swallowed my brothers snuff spit shit Dx.

Also Esp, why did you vote? what was your reasoning?

[CooLskins]

Esp, reasoning?

Of course I have reasoning.

The implied question is "what are your reasons?" which I too want to know.

Well to answer your question. No, I am against it. I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on) and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town. But some reason they think the person is scum :/ That is why, on most of the games, I don't vote on the first day, it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all. That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it. I dont give a flying shit if other people vote for other people, that is fine by me, it gives me a chance to see why and what was the consequences in the action they had. I just don't want people to say that I am scum cause I don't vote and all. But for some reason they do.

Does that answer some of it?? If not Tell my what else I need to explain further

Okay where to start with this, lets break this down.

Well to answer your question. No, I am against it.

Great, no problems what so ever. But after this it falls through with this:

I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on) and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town.

1) No sane town lynches off of rvs. You will NEVER ever see it happen ever. The only reason a player who was wagoned in rvs will get lynched is if he responds badly under pressure.
2) Generalization. I can point to a game where the town wagoned me to l-1 in the confirmation stages and I was scum. Your chance of hitting on a truly random vote are 3/13 right now (again, assuming 3 man team, blah blah).
3) I don't know where you come from (no offence, you may have different mafia customs...) but people never really believe in early game reads. They will tell you otherwise to shake up the wagonee in order to get reaction.

That is why, on most of the games, I don't vote on the first day

This is anti-town and provided vig powers I would shoot you now. You should have

no

reluctance to vote for a player who is scummy on d-1 at all.

it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all. That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it.

No argueing scum are found more on d-2 then on d-1 just by more information being available. But have you ever thought about where that information comes from? How do we have more information on d-1 then d-2? Well because people talk and bandwagon people that's why. And withholding your vote is in essence withholding information to a certain extent.

I dont give a flying shit if other people vote for other people, that is fine by me, it gives me a chance to see why and what was the consequences in the action they had.

So it would be safe to assume that you don't want people to see what your actions are. You wanna fly under the radar d-1 and then come out d-2 looking like friggin superman? And you do realize that if everybody withheld their vote (like you do) you wouldn't have any of that prized "information" that you love.

I just don't want people to say that I am scum cause I don't vote and all. But for some reason they do.

^and for good reason. Again I would vote for you right now, but I respect my other heads vote right now.

Also, where is the mod?

yeah, some prods need to be dished out to people who haven't confirmed yet...

[Espeonage]

Didn't like his answers to my questions.

[CooLskins]

^valid enough for now.

[CooLskins]

hay wait a second espy. What questions did you ask?

[Espeonage]

RQS questions

[Midnight's Sorrow]

Vote Count D-1 #2

(4) Elfen- LordChronos, The Kool, cloudocean, Espeonage

(2) SleepyKrew- Necessary Evil, Kalofer

(1) Kalofer- SleepyKrew

(1) The Kool- CooLskins


(5) Not voting- WingDamage9001, Quinnster, Elfen, Supreme Overlord, Panzerjager

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is June 3rd, Midnight Central.

Prodding, Supreme Overlord and Panzerjager...

[Elfen]

Okay where to start with this, lets break this down.

Well to answer your question. No, I am against it.

Great, no problems what so ever. But after this it falls through with this:

I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on) and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town.

1) No sane town lynches off of rvs. You will NEVER ever see it happen ever. The only reason a player who was wagoned in rvs will get lynched is if he responds badly under pressure.
2) Generalization. I can point to a game where the town wagoned me to l-1 in the confirmation stages and I was scum. Your chance of hitting on a truly random vote are 3/13 right now (again, assuming 3 man team, blah blah).
3) I don't know where you come from (no offence, you may have different mafia customs...) but people never really believe in early game reads. They will tell you otherwise to shake up the wagonee in order to get reaction.

1) To be honest, I feel lost and confused on day one >_> I really don’t know what goes on it it. And by the time its out of RVS half of the day is over(a week was the time so after 5 days after that’s when I reline and it is kind of to late to do anything.
2)okay?
3)But wouldn’t it be best to try to get more than one person than on one person? Unless some one else comes along and trys to defend that person(which is me right now I suspect)

[quote[

That is why, on most of the games, I don't vote on the first day

This is anti-town and provided vig powers I would shoot you now. You should have

no

reluctance to vote for a player who is scummy on d-1 at all. [/quote]
The point is I usually see no one as scum, but I most likely will since the day is longer.

it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all. That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it.

No argueing scum are found more on d-2 then on d-1 just by more information being available. But have you ever thought about where that information comes from? How do we have more information on d-1 then d-2? Well because people talk and bandwagon people that's why. And withholding your vote is in essence withholding information to a certain extent.

*sweat drops* >_> I know I know.. I really do need to change my ways.

[The Kool]

Well to answer your question. No, I am against it. I hate the idea of lynching some one(if the RVS is still on) and it always end up town and the person always seems town but other people some how think they are suspicious, I always think they are town. But some reason they think the person is scum :/ That is why, on most of the games, I don't vote on the first day, it is way easer to find scum on the second day, looking back on what people have said and all. That is my style, waiting for information to pass by then go at it, not try to strive for it when I know I won't able to get it. I dont give a flying shit if other people vote for other people, that is fine by me, it gives me a chance to see why and what was the consequences in the action they had. I just don't want people to say that I am scum cause I don't vote and all. But for some reason they do.

Does that answer some of it?? If not Tell my what else I need to explain further

So you're willing to just sit back and let a townie get lynched on day 1? You're not even going to try to find scum? That may not be inherently scummy, but it sure ain't pro-town.

[SleepyKrew]

Esp, you mean the questions from RQS, before the RVS, which we are now out of? What's so scummy about my answers?
I make mod appear
Also:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elf
You're either a very anti-town townie or scum, and I'm down with lynching either. If a bw picks up on one of my FoSes, I'll gladly
change my vote.

Also, some friendly advice. Since you're new and not used to the way things work here, you should play at least one Newbie Game. Not just one day, but a significant part (if not the whole game). I know I'm a newbie too, but I'm not coming from a completely different culture like you are. GL in the future, and I hope to play you again.

[The Kool]

... I really need to get better about making sure I have read the most recent page, and not just the one I had last been on.

[Elfen]

Esp, you mean the questions from RQS, before the RVS, which we are now out of? What's so scummy about my answers?
I make mod appear
Also:
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elf
You're either a very anti-town townie or scum, and I'm down with lynching either. If a bw picks up on one of my FoSes, I'll gladly
change my vote.

Also, some friendly advice. Since you're new and not used to the way things work here, you should play at least one Newbie Game. Not just one day, but a significant part (if not the whole game). I know I'm a newbie too, but I'm not coming from a completely different culture like you are. GL in the future, and I hope to play you again.

Thanks, but since im 5/7 do i claim now.

also, wait nvm. This isnt a themed game so the mod won't give false claims to the mafia.

And thanks

[SleepyKrew]

I honestly don't know. I'd wait until L-1, but there might be a quickhammer before you claim. Defer to more experienced player.

Did you just claim Maf...? Also, you know Maf can make their own fakeclaim...?

And no problem

[Espeonage]

@ Elfin:

Unvote

@ SK: Just because you have little experience doesn't mean you can have a stab at trying to answer. It just looks like you were doing the same as Elfin and trying to not get any responsibility on you.

For the sake of my sanity. Who isn't just out of newbies?

[Elfen]

I honestly don't know. I'd wait until L-1, but there might be a quickhammer before you claim. Defer to more experienced player.

Did you just claim Maf...? Also, you know Maf can make their own fakeclaim...?

And no problem

Oh, well I thought the mod gave them and no I am not claiming mafia. I was going to say i was iffy about claiming since mods give fake claims >_>

[Espeonage]

@ SK: Elfin is confirmed town. You can stop drilling him.

Next townie to clear.

Vote: Kool

[Elfen]

oops, i ment iffy about claiming

[The Kool]

I'm not just out of newbies!

>.> I never went there... never found anything said I had to, just said it was recommended. but I did come from another forum, so I'm not totally new.

Wait, how is he clear?