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Spadille · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:43 am

Speaking of my avatar, I'm bored with it lol. Changed it to this one.
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@Snarky
OH YEAH?!? YOU GOT SOME TELEPATHIC CONNECTION, HUH? lulz

Snarky · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:00 am

Oh no! you screwed the black and white party!!!

And yes I've got telepathic connections, that's why I know you're scum!! Nah just joking, the he knows why RVS joke is a classic

@DK: So you don't trust yourself? Then why would I trust you?

unvote
vote: DeityKabuto

Oh oh! wagon wagonny!!

@Spadille: What was the failure of your last game?

Spadille · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:11 am

I lost the game as town.

SnakePlissken · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:00 am

Indeed I do. We were together in one of my favorite scum team games as well, despite me Ooops hamering 3 times we avoided the lynch and won the day for the scums. Mighty fine performance if I do say so and we didn't get a look in at the Scummy's either

Parabollocks · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:28 am

/confirm

VOTE: SnakePlissken

i think i have seen you on kaillera before.

Spadille · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:46 am

Okay, let's quit spooning each other and get to scumhunting. I'll start off:

VOTE: DeityKabuto for throwing away the very sense of RVS, to apply pressure. Applying pressure to one's self is the most useless way of RVS because you are not applying pressure to anyone but yourself. Implying that he has no intention of finding scum because he knows them himself as their scumbuddy.

Parabollocks · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:48 am

you do realize that's a extremely open window for scum to jo-

continue.

Spadille · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:50 am

With 12 alive, how many to lynch?

Also, a scum rush hammer will lead to their lynching.

Parabollocks · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:52 am

7.

drop 3 scum and 3 masons and bam you have a lynch.

Parabollocks · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:53 am

also i take that back he's at 3 right now and can easily be put to L-2, i'd like to see him post first and i wanted to give this flag out so scum don't think they can blitz.

Spadille · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:05 am

Instead of going 'continue' on me, can you please post your thought about it?

Snarky · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:05 am

Why so worried of a quicklynch, Parabollock? We're still on page 2, you know. Would be suicide for the three scum to blitz right now. What's your opinion on DK's selfvote?

Parabollocks · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:15 am

i'm not so worried about a quicklynch, and i highly doubt it would happen, and as i have said it's a very easy window for scum.

i don't mind it, i think it's stupid but could be setting up for a slayer gambit.

Spadille · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:34 am

The worst thing a player could do is reveal someone's pro-town gambit if you suspect he's doing it. Which you did.
And now you opened 2 portals:
a.)DK is a scum and he now has a good excuse to conceal his scummy behavior, he might go, act pro-town and harass Snarky or I.
b.)No one will go to the bandwagon in fear of the revealed gambit. This event will render the potential gambit useless.

Thanks alot, pal.

FoS:Parabollocks

Spadille · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:54 am

@Snarky, was your DK vote random or not? Do you think your reason is acceptable for an unrandom vote? Did you like placing a third vote to him prior to his random self-voting?

Snarky · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:54 am

@Parabollock: If you think what DK did was a slayer gambit, who you think is scum on his wagon?

@Spadille: Why only a FoS?

Spadille · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:56 am

Because I believe that his "gambit revelation" is less scummy than DK's Self RVS vote.

Parabollocks · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:11 am

@Snarky

Spadille for one, his first vote goes to DK for voting himself and ruining RVS, apparently, and when i put up a flag on trying to get a shitty excuse to vote someone, he completley directs it back to me for ruining a gambit,,

Spadille wrote:a.)DK is a scum and he now has a good excuse to conceal his scummy behavior, he might go, act pro-town and harass Snarky or I.

b.)No one will go to the bandwagon in fear of the revealed gambit. This event will render the potential gambit useless.

How can you conceal something that is out in the open? who is to say i'm right? i'm merely theorizing like you theorized why he voted himself, also, you sound inclined to believe it now, why haven't you unvoted him?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Spadille

Fixed quote for you.

Snarky · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:12 am

@ Spadille

Oh didn't see your question. And I don't quite understand it...

No my vote wasn't random, it was for the self-vote, and I think it is a legitimate reason to vote for for getting things rolling. Now the third part of the question could you reexplain it please?

Spadille · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:29 am

@Snarky.
You think? Aren't you the one who did it yourself?
The third question was: Are you happy putting the 3rd vote on DK with the reason of "selfvoting"?
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PB wrote:How can you conceal something that is out in the open? who is to say i'm right? i'm merely theorizing like you theorized why he voted himself, also, you sound inclined to believe it now, why haven't you unvoted him?

The fact that you gave him an idea to have a good excuse with being scummy. He can ultimately say that "Yes it was a gambit and I think it's Snarky/Spadille".
I'm not inclined in believing, I still think he's scum from my own reasons.

Parabollocks · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:35 am

Gambits can both be pro-town and anti-town, slayer's gambit works in that same way, i stopped it because i hate gambits like that because it causes commotion for town and has more negatives then positives, now that it's 'revealed' we will get more open and concise thought process, and he doesn't have that excuse anymore.

Spadille · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:46 am

Slayer's is pro-town gambit. It's used to get willing scum to willingly lynch a "bad player". Can you please cite the positives and negatives?
Actually, he doesn't because I have already closed that path for him by predicting his next move as scum.

Parabollocks · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:53 am

Positive -
Has pro-town motive if you are town.

Positive/Negative -
Could get you scum (50/50) when something is scummy, it's scummy, there is no excuse for it, you could get scum as easily as you could town players, when someone is legitamately scummy, there is no excuse for it.

Negative -
Can easily be interpreted as scum looking for an excuse, and the risks are too great such as getting yourself mislynched.

Spadille · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:05 am

This argument is not getting the town anywhere, this is just about our point on how the gambit works. This belongs to the Mafia Discussion.
What I do know is that you believe that DK is gambiting and that you have voted me because you think I'm the scum which is the "gambit's target".

So what makes you think DK is town?

Spadille · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 7:22 am

And last one before I sleep.. and to end this yet another wallpost >.<

@PB
How strong is your belief that DK is a town using the Gambit? And how did you even know he is using the Gambit without his statements even? I thought it has more negatives that positives?
Also, your vote is an indirect OMGUS.

Parabollocks wrote:when i put up a flag on trying to get a shitty excuse to vote someone

When did this exactly happen?

UNVOTE: VOTE: Parabollocks, his vote reason is bogus. He believes DK is using a gambit, without DK confirming it, and votes me for it. Yes, that's his vote reason folks.. other than me putting down an FoS on him.
Still maintaining a

FoS:DeityKabuto