Mini 1175: Iowa Mafia (Game Over!)

[monk]

@Earworm on my voting three times on the first page each vote had its purpose, why is it scummy to vote three times when one is getting Hiplop closer to being lynched(something I don't think is beneficial since we don't have an adequate read on him from anyone and judging by his reaction to the PM is likely vanilla town), the second I can see that greymarble isn't going to crack under that sort of pressure and the third is for bgg not posting yet, but I still think he needs to post a bit more so I'll leave it there for the moment.

The point of RVs is to apply pressure and see how people react to it. Your first two votes (the Greymarble one especially) were wastes. They applied zero pressure on the person that you voted because of the extreme haste in which you changed your vote.

Fair enough I still hold my reason for switching off hiplop

[Zachrulez]

Is there anyone else that sticks out as scummy to you peaf?

I could ask you the same question.

[monk]

The only other person I think is acting scummy at this point is twisted spoon and that's from his first post, I get a nice town read from you because you are applying pressure. I'm not sure about earworm, he says that me going off greymarble wasn't that justified, but I did apply some more pressure to GM, and I am still kind of wondering why he jumped on a bandwagon that already had two on there during RVS when he later stated that Hiplop has a slight town read due to not having replied by PM.

While bgg does have a point that peaf has posted he hasn't done much scumhunting or pressure applying.

I fully understand all votes against me and I have explained my position for doing what I have done, I guess part of it is living and learning

[Twistedspoon]

I get a nice town read from you because you are applying pressure.

so we follow the assumption here that scum don't apply pressure?
And even If we do I've seen players like earworm 'apply pressure' too

this seems a bad excuse for a townread

[monk]

Ok, its probably more to how he applied pressure, though that read could be off simply because he was being nice about it, probably not a good idea to be doing reads on pepper on my wagon unless I can tell they 're serious about it

[bgg1996]

I do find it weird that bgg defended me when I honestly feel there's nothing much to defend me from. "Forget Peaf" is a really weird thing to say. bgg might be scum who doesn't care about some new guy, and is more threatened by someone else or something. Also, when he says "let's wait for something to happen" I feel like he's not looking for scum at all. Like, what kind of scumhunting is that - "when someone says they're scum I'll vote for them" is what I'm reading from that.

I'm not defending you. I'm attacking the argument against you.
It's just a bad case. I didn't say that we should just wait for something to happen, I only said that not much has happened yet, and it's expected that people don't have many opinions.


For you to think it scummy, either you need to think that the case against you was solid, or that I only have this opinion as scum.

[GreyICE]

[tag]

[mikemike778]

lolwut @ avatar vote

There's really no thing as a random vote IMO - if it were "random" you'd be using something akin to random.org, and if that's how you guys scumhunt here then I anticipate this being my last game. And if you're not using a randomizer, then I can assume you have a motive for your vote, whatever it may be. Sure, get into shittons of WIFOM trying to find a motive, so there's not much of a point in doing only that.

Now I know I'm new here, but monk explicitly saying "you're voting me since I'm new" is really really dumb. Pulling the newbie card is never good for yourself or for the game.

Also, that was legitimate excitement, it's always fun joining a new community. >_>

and what the hell are hydras

Yep this is true so I'll help you along with my motives as there were two:

1. You don't have a Avatar, voting for you because of this may possibly encourage you to get one which will make my enjoyment of the game marginally more than might otherwise be the case.

Bit more importantly.

2. Early votes in the game are generally to gauge a reaction to move the game out of RVS - as a new player to the site, you are a pretty good option for this to see if you panic over collecting a vote early doors which can be a scum-sign.

[mikemike778]

The point of RVs is to apply pressure and see how people react to it. Your first two votes (the Greymarble one especially) were wastes. They applied zero pressure on the person that you voted because of the extreme haste in which you changed your vote.

Agreed 100% which make me wonder why your first post was ...

VOTE: hiplop

rv

Why feel the need to point out this was a random vote ? Hardly going to help your vote apply pressure is it ?

[Twistedspoon]

^nice catch

peaf seems to have given the more towbie of resonses to my first post asking for a wagon. I shall move on to better prospects

Forget Peaf, there almost isn't any content at all in kondi2424's posts.

he had no posts

but the fact that you suspect him before he even posts and so early in the game is alarming. dare I say distancing? A rare form before they even post :/

VOTE: bgg

[bgg1996]

but the fact that you suspect him before he even posts

You can't detect sarcasm? Noted.

[Twistedspoon]

I can't actually

well I can in real life, but when people type I have no idea what tone they're using. Sarcasm cannot be detected without tone imo

[bgg1996]

Really? It can't be detected? At all? No matter what?! I had

noooo

idea.
I always thought that when you read text, the implied tone that the writer had intended to use magically flew into your heart with the power of

THOR!!!!!!

. [/sarcasm]

[earworm]

The point of RVs is to apply pressure and see how people react to it. Your first two votes (the Greymarble one especially) were wastes. They applied zero pressure on the person that you voted because of the extreme haste in which you changed your vote.

Agreed 100% which make me wonder why your first post was ...

VOTE: hiplop

rv

Why feel the need to point out this was a random vote ? Hardly going to help your vote apply pressure is it ?

It was the second vote of the game, of course it was an RV. But to be honest, it was more for the sake of starting a wagon than anything else.

[Final Destination]

bgg+kondi2424

TWO FOR ONE SPECIAL

Unvote:
Vote: Bgg

Here's the rest of the game reads:

[Final Destination]

THE COUNCIL

GreyMarble
ZachRulez
Final Destination

We three will have an epic LyLo. If either of you is scum you have to promise NOT to kill the others on the council, or else be held to the meta of a lying an immoral scumbag for the rest of our games here on this site. If all of us are town the scum have to eliminate us one by one before we destroy this game.

Now the REST of you peons will have to fight over who will be lynched, and the council will make the final 3 voting bloc hammer.

Fight amongst yourselves.

Here are my reads as they are vague and imperfect:
THE TOWNIES:
Peaf- I'm from GameFaQs WHEEEEEEEEEE PEAFJOURNALTIME Where's Baku and Speed at? ;_; Towntell
hiplop-IM LOST AMID AND DONT KNOW ANYTHIN BUT MY OWN ASS Towntell
TwistedSpoon-I found a scumtell I SWEAR guiz! Towntell
Akira-Im L and I will find you KIRA Towntell
Bgg-MY ROLE PM SAYS DIS Towntell
earworm-I'm over here jsut chillin yo Towntell
kondi2424-I'm mislynch fodder and going to be worthless all game Towntell

(

Unvote:

)

SCUM
Monk-Claiming scum first post because I can Scumtell
Archaist-I'll post when I feel like it de temps en temps Scumtell
Mikemike-I point out things of no real importance UNDER THE RADAR PLZ Scumtell

Vote: Monk

[earworm]

@Final Destination: Are these in strongest to weakest order? Also why the sudden change on bgg? It's confusing.

[monk]

FD, you're reads are way off, peaf has just as much newbscum'd as I have, if you can't tell I'm not too fussed by the votes on me at this point.
Also what's the point of your epic lylo, it only serves to group the three of you to be an untouchable group who for all us peons know are all scum.
VOTE: Final Destination For suggesting a voting block and being rather inconsistent in your reads on me, peaf and bgg

[Final Destination]

Ahhh the scum have claimed already.

Council?

You agree to execute this monk today?

[Final Destination]

Add in:

The I'll vote Fate because I think I can get away with it newbscumtell

and the

But Peaf is being newbscum too please dont hurt me

and the

Your reads are way off, I know because Im scum


Scumtells to monk's list.

[monk]

I have given my reasons why I don't agree with your reads, specifically mine, peaf's and bgg's. If you want to chalk that up to me being scum go ahead. You've basically been tunnelling me ever since I said "oh I'm a newb, you're probably voting for me to get me to squirm" to Zachrulez, in the end I know I'm not scum and I know that someone knows that I'm not scum.

[Peaf]

I'm wary of FD that he knows me and I don't know him. I'm (in)famous for my peafjournals - or rather, huge walls of text of my stream of consciousness as I reread previous days. Also, how do you know Baku and Speed? Speed's actually the guy that told me to try out mini-normals.

That being said, the voting block is incredibly stupid. I trust myself here, and that's it. If one of the three of you strike me as scum, I won't hold back in attacking you just because you're on some dumb council. For all I know, the 3 of you could be the 3 scum in the game. Anyone who asks me for their trust this early is going to get just the opposite.

Monk saying that I've newbscum'd as much as he has is, in my eyes, him admitting that he's newbscum. LOL @ him thinking a player can't change what he thinks of other players, though.

Don't see how sarcasm junk adds anything to scumhunting, bgg, and the "oh I was being sarcastic, you couldn't tell? ;_;" is a horrible defense and I'm ashamed that someone here used sarcasm as a defense for

anything

.

[hiplop]

Final destination, make sure you don't tunnel. It seems you're preparing for that, one of your "council" members could easily be scum, if you go through game assuming they're town, we could mess up big time. Scummiest thing so far, is that BGG thing where he said kondi2424 was being scummy, i know as scum i used to just pick a name that i tthought i could lynch nad say their being wscummy, i think hes doing the same

UNVOTE: Twisted spoon
VOTE: bgg1886

[hiplop]

i was off by about 100 years, oh well :$

[bgg1996]

the 3 of you could be the 3 scum in the game.

Hello scumtell. Nobody knows how many scum there are, and it shouldn't be assumed, unless you are one.

Unvote
Vote: Peaf

"oh I was being sarcastic, you couldn't tell? ;_;" is a horrible defense and I'm ashamed that someone here used sarcasm as a defense for

anything

.

......
Even for when I was actually being sarcastic?
Sarcasm isn't a defense for being sarcastic?
That

toottally

isn't the stupidest thing I've ever heard.