Newbie 1116 -- Game Over

[Nobody Special]

Votecount 1.01

Workdawg - 1 - Yonzy
Yonzy - 1 - Grimmjow

Not Voting: estcerourt, Zihark, cymru96, tucah, Workdawg, Miss JJ, bigAl

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: June 30 (expired on 2011-06-30 11:00:00)

[Grimmjow]

Wow, very quick with the votecount, NS. I like it.

Also, I hate RVS, because I feel it doesn't really do anything to further the game. On top of that, no one else really has posted anything since the game started, and your logic is bullshit, I think. So, there's my rationale for the vote. I'll likely unvote as soon as more people are playing the game.

Also, one more time, since some people have confirmed, but didn't post anything else, please post your timezones.

[Miss JJ]

I hate it RVS too but I'll still put my RVS vote back on Grimmjow.

[Nobody Special]

You'll have to actually place a vote for it to count.

Vote: PlayerName [remember to bold]

or

VOTE: PlayerName

[cymru96]

I'll get an avatar a-sap

[Grimmjow]

Soooo, we're a day into it and only 3 people really have posted... awesome. I hate how slow this game is sometimes.

[cymru96]

I'm still trying to find a picture that'll fit.

I havent voted yet cause I have to reason to suspect anyone.

[bigAl]

I don't know about anyone else, but the forums were down all of yesterday for me. So, sorry for not posting I suppose. >.>

Anyway, I'm the IC in this game, meaning in addition my normal goal of eliminating all the mafia from the town, I'm going to help with any game theory or strategy questions as much as I can. The Newbie Guide is a good place to start if you're not familiar with the game. The Glossary can be helpful too. Any questions, let me know. I played a fair amount on here several years back, but this is my first game in a while. This 2of4 setup is new to me, so it'll be interesting to see how the game plays out.

Note that I've already snuck in my first strategy, by implying that my role is pro-town in the previous paragraph. Now you all subconsciously assume that I'm some kind of pro-town guy. But don't you get sucked in! The more critical and suspicious everyone is of everyone else, the better we'll do!

Let's VOTE: cymru96 to start out. Not random.

Anyway, I'm in Mountain time, GMT-7. I'm busy most weekdays but I should be able to post a lot evenings and weekends.

PS. You vote people by typing:

Code: Select all

[vote]someone[/vote] or [b]Vote: someone[/b]

[Grimmjow]

Ok, so bigAl votes cymru, stating it's not random, but doesn't give any reasons. He also implies that he's town, but not to be sucked in, which the goal of all that is 1) to make people think he's town and 2) to make people think he's even more town by saying "But don't believe it just because I tell you I'm town," which frankly I think is bullshit.

Can anyone else confirm that the servers were down yesterday? They worked fine for me.

@Al, why is your vote on cymru not random?

I'm going to keep my vote on Yonzy for now, but

FoS: bigAl

[Zihark]

Late /confirm

[cymru96]

VOTE: bigAL because he's said that he's not necisserily town and then voted for me without saying his reason.

BTW my time zone is GMT so my posts will probably be early morning- early afternoon for most of you

[cymru96]

why did it not bold?

[bigAl]

Did you put bold tags around it? ([b] and [/b])

Gotta run for now but I'll post a response this afternoon.

[bigAl]

Okay, work was rained out today, so I'm back quicker than I expected. Anyway...

@Al, why is your vote on cymru not random?

So a lot of mafia games start out with a few random votes, some idle discussion, chit chat or whatever, and it takes a while before anything meaty comes out. I decided to start the game with a strong provocative vote, and see where it leads. This kick starts the game and now we have something to look at. I voted someone for no stated reason and now I've gotten a response from two of you so far, and that gives me (and the rest of the town) more information. Doing this puts a bit of a target on me, I realize, but at the very worst, I get lynched and everyone tomorrow has a lot of data to move forward (though we're a long ways off from the lynching stage I hope). (I picked cymru96 to vote because he chose not to vote anyone. I'll be the first to admit that this is pretty

arbitrary

, but it's not

random

. It was probably just as a meaningful choice as a random vote, but it leads something more interesting.)

VOTE: bigAL because he's said that he's not necisserily town and then voted for me without saying his reason.

Saying that I'm "not necisserily [sic] town" is not a reason to vote someone or suspect they are a bad guy - it is simply a fact. It is a fact that I simply have a 2/9th chance of being a bad guy - as does everyone else here. That's what I was trying to say in #32 - we're all possibly scum. Grimmjow called it bullshit - I call it logic and strategy. My vote was arbitrary so start with, but I'm happy with where it is now - stating facts is no reason to (try to) vote people.

[cymru96]

Vote: bigAL

I stated my reason above but I forgor to bold.

I said not neciserily town because you said yourself not to neciserily trust you.

[Nobody Special]

VisceraEyes replaces estcerourt effective immediately.

[Grimmjow]

@cy: if you're trying to find an avatar, go to google and type in what you want your avatar to be and then just put "avatar" after it. The images that come up should be small enough file size.

[VisceraEyes]

/confirmation station

[VisceraEyes]

How's everybody doing? I dislike RVS because it doesn't really pressure anyone...everyone expects it and knows the votes don't really mean anything, so they're kinda useless all and all.

That being said, I'm not against someone changing their mind either. I've found that the act of vote-switching itself isn't really so scummy, more the timing of switching that becomes important to watch.

I look forward to scum-hunting with you all! ^^

[VisceraEyes]

Ok, so bigAl votes cymru, stating it's not random, but doesn't give any reasons. He also implies that he's town, but not to be sucked in, which the goal of all that is 1) to make people think he's town and 2) to make people think he's even more town by saying "But don't believe it just because I tell you I'm town," which frankly I think is bullshit.

Can anyone else confirm that the servers were down yesterday? They worked fine for me.

@Al, why is your vote on cymru not random?

I'm going to keep my vote on Yonzy for now, but

FoS: bigAl

...so we've got WIFOM from this guy...

VOTE: bigAL because he's said that he's not necisserily town and then voted for me without saying his reason.

BTW my time zone is GMT so my posts will probably be early morning- early afternoon for most of you

...and OMGUS from this one.

Try to think outside the box here guys. Don't look at the superficial, try to go deep down and look at the reasoning behind things. For my part, bigAl seems to be very logical and gives good advice (whether he's town or scum). This isn't going to make me look any less closely at his posts (probably the opposite)...but I'm certainly not going to throw a

FoS

on him because the words he says are helping town.

I'm not really getting any scummy reads off anyone in town just yet, but it looks to have just started. Kisses!

[VisceraEyes]

@Grim
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... %27t_Panic
This is a link to the mafiascum Wiki's "Don't Panic" talk page where you can sign the page and let the powers-that-be know when you're having issues with the site. You'll note that I was also having issues with the page on the date in question. I don't doubt that you were viewing the page just fine, as the problem appears to have been intermittent and only affect some people.

[Yonzy]

Grimmjow- Out of the five people who posted and actually made a statement, you already suspect two of them(me and BigAl)?

My strategy of playing this game is if you're logical, i'll see you as town.. With that said..Viscera is the only person that looks somewhat safe for me..
But it's wayyy to early to get a full read..
Anywayy, you can keep your vote on me as long as you'd like but I do hope you give more reason to within the next 2-3 pages..
BigAl- you look mad fishy:p lol js.

[Miss JJ]

Okay let's try this again, third time's a charm.

VOTE: Grimmjow

Big Al's post seems ICish and pro-town to me. I agree that we should be critical of everyone. Grimmjow, why keep your random vote if you are FoSing Big Al?

[VisceraEyes]

@Miss JJ

Spoiler: Miss JJ's Vote

Okay let's try this again, third time's a charm.

VOTE: Grimmjow

Big Al's post seems ICish and pro-town to me. I agree that we should be critical of everyone. Grimmjow, why keep your random vote if you are FoSing Big Al?

Just out of curiosity, is this just an extension of your RVS vote before the game started, or was his FoS of Al actually enough to warrant your vote?

[bigAl]

So both Grimmjow and cymru96 replied without really addressing what I said. Does it make any more sense now that VisceraEyes has explained it as well? VE seems to get what I'm going for. Still fingering me Grimmjow? Why are you continuing to vote the guy that's providing helpful advice cymru? :)

I have enough experience here to avoid doing something obviously suspicious as Grimmjow and cymru seem to think I am doing, so it wouldn't make sense for me to do so. [IC hat]That's getting into WIFOM territory though, so maybe ignore the previous sentence.[/IC hat]

Also the more I think about it, the more this seems like a lame attempt to find an excuse to be suspicious of someone:

Can anyone else confirm that the servers were down yesterday? They worked fine for me.

I've love to hear from tucah and Workdawg too (though I know he said he be away for the weekend - understandable).