New York 134: Planet of Hats (Scum Win!)

[xRECKONERx]

I'm actually finding the PGO claim very believable in the grand scheme of things. Having a PGO balances out the two cops who could easily hit the PGO and go boom. Thus, Amrun would be the final scum.

Like I said, I haven't actually gone back and re-read yet.

[xRECKONERx]

Okay I just remembered my main point about VE being town: jilynne doesn't have the swagger or knowledge to pull of a fake PGO claim.

HOWEVER, is a scum PGO possible? It would rule out the need for a Godfather since any cop that targets them dies anyway.

[xRECKONERx]

Actually no, no way is a scum PGO balanced in the slightest, nor have I *ever* seen a scum PGO, and I'm not going to start believing this shit now.

Vote: Amrun

gg

[xRECKONERx]

wait

Unvote

No.

[xRECKONERx]

Vote: Vinegareater

I'm tired of losing games when I doubt my gut, and this is where my gut is.

[xRECKONERx]

Looking back it I didn't realize jilynne didn't claim PGO until day TWO

that seems like something the scumteam would've come up with actually overnight and instructed her to claim it

[xRECKONERx]

Ok, but I'll take out a scum or sk while I'm at it.

I don't want any more power roles to die because of me though.

Anyone who visits me at night, dies. If they try to kill me, I will die, but so will they.

This was the original claim... she didn't outright claim PGO, which is fucking weird to me. It's like they explained the role ot her in the QT then forgot to give her a rolename.

Yup, VE is scum. This + my original read are enough for me.

[VinegarEater]

Reck -
Look back to the circumstances surrounding her claim.
#515

You guys...this is really bothering me, can I claim? Please...I think it'll help you guys alot.
--
Seriously, can I please claim. This is killing me, because I'm greatly hurting town if I don't and i can help if I do.
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WHY NOT?

(separate times separated by --)
This is what it looks like when a newbie with a weird role (I hesitate to say "PR" for a PGO in a game with so many cops) wants to claim, but gets anxious about claiming too early. If this was a fakeclaim, Jilynne must have been noncommittal about it to an insane degree, seeing that she tried so hard to avoid saying it.

Okay, so we actually have TWO more mislynches. At this point in time, I'm willing to go with Nobody Special being confirmed town. Looking back, it seems that posts and 1315 were what lead me to my VE-chkballin read. And it still seems pretty accurate. I'm going to put VE as my #1 preferred lynch for tomorrow (/today).

(referring to #1311 and #1315)
So, instead of voting on one scumbag, I jumped on...another scumbag. How is this scummy, as opposed to just being stupid? Have you forgotten Auckmid was scum?

Everyone -

I don't really think PeregrineV is scum due to my analysis, but it's only a vey minor townpoint for him.

(#1637)
No offense to heavily analytical players, but when you're relying entirely on analysis you've never posted in-thread, you're doing something horribly, horribly wrong.

The reason I haven't been voting him is because I've been trying to mentally excuse his every usage of unexplained analysis because I don't want to waste a lynch on anyone for a shitty playstyle alone. The reads it's brought him have been sane enough, but he's never actually explained how his analysis got him to those reads, aside from blatantly unsupported bullshit like the above. Which is pretty scummy, I guess.

At best, he provides the immediate reason (because of [interactions/WIFOM/OMGUS] between X and Y) without providing the posts leading to that conclusion.

[Amrun]

Wait, she claimed a nonstandard PGO. PGOs don't die when they're visited.

P-edit: I posted 99% of it in thread. I know you got stuck with a shit claim. Too bad.

[xRECKONERx]

I agree with Amrun. VE got stuck with a shit claim and is now forced to talk his way out of it.

Sorry, VE. You're actually a damn great player.

Celeb, hammer this shit so we can end this eternal game.

[xRECKONERx]

If Celeb DOESN'T want to vote VE, we're essentially in a stalemate.

[Celebloki]

Ahh what the hell. Lets see what happens. I swear if Reck ends up being the last scum I'm going to vomit.

Vote: VinegarEater

[SleepyKrew]

Start vommitting.

[Celebloki]

HA, that time I should have listened to my gut then, I was started to suspect him but having a Godfather seemed unlikely. Well Played.

[Wraith]

Final Votecount

VinegarEater

(3)

:

Amrun, xRECKONERx, Celebloki

Amrun

(1)

:

VinegarEater

Not Voting

(0)

:

VinegarEater

has been lynched.

Vinegar Eater

,

Paranoid Gun Owner

,

Lynched Day 9

Reckoner snickered. "What's so funny?" asked Celebloki. He was a little slow to see the gun, hear the bang, watch Amrun double over and crumple to the ground.

Amrun

,

Vanilla Townie

,

Killed Night 10

Grinning like a madman, Reck aimed the gun at Celebloki. "It was YOU all along?" Celebloki shouted, shocked. "It was-" He wretched and vomited onto the ground. "And you all fell for it hook, line, and sinker. I can't believe this plan worked!" Reck cackled. He fired the gun, and that was that.

Celebloki,

Vanilla Townie

,

Endgamed

xRECKONERx,

Mafia Godfather

,

Survived and won the game!

The Mafia Team of

xRECKONERx

,

SleepyKrew

,

JDGA

, and

Auckmid

win the game!

[xRECKONERx]

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[SleepyKrew]

Kudos to Reck. Thank God he drew the GF PM.

[Celebloki]

I figure I would have had a hard sell for both VE and Amrun though if I tried to follow my gut and lynch Reck. A couple days back I started to wonder about you.

[Wraith]

Graveyard QT

Scum can put up their QT if they want. I'll put up my own comments later.

[xRECKONERx]

Good read. I loved the SCUM IS FUCKED, SCUM IS FUCKED, SCUM IS FUCKED.... OH GOD WHAT!? feel of it.

[SleepyKrew]

Seriously Reck. How did you convince them there's no GF? HOW?

[Celebloki]

What I am mostly pissed about is why the town didn't listen to be Days ago about lynching chkballin. We could have avoided a lot of Roleblocks if they had. I was gunning for her from like day 2 or 3.

[Amrun]

I had my wonderings... I really did. I had them about everyone.

I was thinking about it and decided if it wasn't vinegar eater, it had to be reck.

But it was hard to give up those cop results.


I should have trusted myself. I knew from my analysis vinegar wouldn't be scum. X.X but jily fucked up the claim. Or it was a nonstandard pgo.

Reck, why did you kill dgb instead of celebloki last night?

Despite totally copping out, glowballdid good distancing.

[xRECKONERx]

Because DGB isn't active and getting her vote in 4p lylo was too hard. Also, DGB was mod confirmed town due to lurking...at least with Celeb we were both at risk for OMGGODFATHER speculation.

[PeregrineV]

@Wraith- Thanks for modding- great game!

I'm just glad I was able to get as many doc protections in as possible. Didn't want to out myself really, but was hoping town would slow down the lynch speed near endgame.