@Candlejack-
Why on earth would people assume that GreyICE's allcaps "no, of course not" with that phrasing was anything other than a sarcastic response to Kast? Seriously, all it's missing is the "here's your sign" afterwards.
You're assuming his claim is true. If his claim was a joke, then he could easily have posted an upset/nonsensical drivel like he did in response to a perceived attack. If you need it broken down further, the second and third sentence specifically have no relevance to my actual post since I had not implied any doubt or believe that his claim was a "fake claim" but rather I had explicitly contrasted the two possibilities of GreyIce claiming seriously against GreyIce joking (let me know if you need the difference between a joke and an actual false claim explained).
You're saying that claiming Miller on Day 1 is anti-town?
Don't play stupid please. GreyIce's claim is equivalent to stating "Hey scum, don't kill me and I'll protect you from getting watched or tracked". It's VERY different from a simple miller claim. Secondly, millers coming out D1 and claiming to be a miller is hardly an optimum play; much less so in a large game, though it's value rises with the chance of the miller getting investigated.
You're avoiding the point I actually made; since GreyIce is making an unprompted partial claim, he should include the relevant info for his claim which helps town without similarly helping scum.
I'm also not seeing how you get a "flip out" from GreyICE's play. Looks like scum misrepresentation to me.
Pretty simple. GreyICE responded to simple questions by posting a hostile, all-caps, overblown response to in imagined fishing(?) attempt, placing an OMGUS vote for that perceived but unreal "attack", and posting unhappy/frustrated gibberish.
Explain how any of his post is relevant. Since you want to talk about it, how about also address the issue of GreyIce avoiding the questions.
when I could just pressure her and let her dig a hole with her reactions
Your pressure does nothing of this sort, so please don't mention irrelevant points as if they are valid defense.
shutting down anti-town speculation.
This is fine if it was your purpose. It doesn't need a vote or encouragement for others to similarly vote. It also would suggest you cared to explain how Amrun's post could lead to the doomsday scenario you keep pushing; unfortunately you did not and still are not doing so.
Telling us that town being distracted by cult speculation is bad DOES NOT EQUAL explaining how Amrun's post leads to that bad outcome or could even remotely lead to that.
there was a time not all that far back when joking was a fairly reliable scumtell
This is ridiculous. If there was a time when you considered that a reliable tell, it just shows you were playing with bad assumptions.
And why the hell WOULDN'T I assume cult speculation when Amrun failed to make it clear that her reasoning was due to Starbuck's past actions as cult when she first posted?
Because only an idiot would claim that saying the word cult is equivalent to cult speculation. I'm asking you why the hell you assume cult speculation when there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of any cult speculation. You're jumping from A to C and completely ignoring B. When asked to show B, you're just harping on C being so bad that you don't have to bother with B.
@Steve-
RNG generally stands for random number generator meaning the vote was a random vote.
Why did you choose to claim D1 being completely unprompted? Not that this is necessarily a scum tell I simply don't get your motivation.
Why did you claim your role power without claiming what character you were?
GreyIce can answer the first one, but as for the second, claiming his name would be unnecessary except if people doubted his claim and needed the name claim to justify flavor. He really doesn't need to share that.
On the other hand, sharing aspects of how his restriction affects investigative roles has important impacts on what those roles can conclude from investigation results. It also significantly helps us in evaluating future claims and determining what happened late in the game. Sharing this information openly, instead of forcing it to be painfully extracted also helps out potential investigators without forcing them to reveal themselves and seek clarifications.
