Mini 1195: The Beehive Mystery (GAME OVER)

[Captain Corporal]

Hey everyone. The CC part of the CS hydra here
Sorry about the masons D1, the ploy that was made wasn't really the ploy that we meant to make. I'll post the hydra QT in a couple of hours, btw

[Klazam]

Already did that

[Captain Corporal]

(I meant my hydra QT, not the Masons one)
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/SUkThuTkCBsBv

[archaebob]

Yo.

So basically, it was our plan from the beginning to claim one shot vig, so we played to that role pretty hard. Had Scott left us alive that last night, we would have most likely won. The idea was to shoot again in mylo when nobody was expecting it and come out with an endgame victory. We had Scott pegged as the last scum pretty much from the beginning, and pushing ICEninja was our last ditch effort to escape the NK. Had we lived to mylo, we would have killed Scott that night and, with luck, come away with the game.

We don't plan on sharing the hydra QT itself, but I am more than happy to explain our play. We really were just playing as a one shot vig (our shot against Subgenius was legitimately intended to hit scum) except that we pushed a mislynch against ICEninja instead of going after Scott. We knew that if all the scum turned up dead we'd be finished, so yeah.

Apologies if we made this game less enjoyable for anyone, but since we were Serial Killer, you pretty much are required to forgive us.

[subgenius]

I'm still not seeing how you expected that plan to work without being NK immune. No matter how you cut it, it seems extremely unlikely that maf isn't going to try to shoot the claimed PR heading into LYLO. Also, according to foilist's post in the dead thread, you two weren't planning on killing anyone the entire game. What's up with that?

[Whiskers]

He wasn't a claimed PR going into lylo-- or, rather, he claimed he expended his one-shot power (making him a former-PR).

[subgenius]

He wasn't a claimed PR going into lylo-- or, rather, he claimed he expended his one-shot power (making him a former-PR).

Technically true, but it seems to me if a player makes a claim, and the town believes it, that player will have enhanced credibility going into LYLO, and it is in the mafia's best interest to NK him if possible rather than have to deal with it on the final day, regardless of whether or not the PR is expired. If Scott let Ivan live to LYLO, he'd have to either convince the third player that Ivan was lying or accept that the three man LYLO would be immediately narrowed down to two suspects. Neither seems appealing, so it's best to kill Ivan.

[Llamarble]

Yeah, there was no significant chance of Ivan winning once he claimed one shot vig.
He'd have been in awesome shape had he not had to claim until lylo though.

[foilist13]

Flash wagons happen, and I did what I saw as the best solution at the time. In hindsight we probably could have survived the lynch and then tried to make our way through, but at the time it seemed like the best solution to me.

[Papa Zito]

fin.