Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER

ToastyToast · Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:58 am

Ok.
So hiplop uses his cop (whether or not its fake)
We figure this shit out
BB cops remaining
vezok delays remaining

ToastyToast · Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:02 am

What makes kast or tans unable to be the vanillaizer?

ToastyToast · Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:16 am

@Kast:
Aren't you in the exact same position as vezok? If you believe there to be a godfather, you cannot simply base it on an innocent result.
Vezok has some confirmed actions. You have both been the target of a cop investigation, and both gave a "not mafia" result.
So, why, other than godfather speculation, do you think vezok is scum? Vezok plays like he always plays, as far as I can see. So what makes it so obvious? What makes vezok the obvious godfather when compared to yourself?

ToastyToast · Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:06 pm

no one's checked me. there were just better options is his point

ToastyToast · Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:36 pm

In post 3601, Blackberry wrote:Can someone analyze the lynched mafias and makes guesses from there about what's going on? XD

Planning to look at hiplop's connections to mafia. Hopefully that'll help figure this out

ToastyToast · Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:14 am

Your job is..find the damn vanillizer!

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:29 am

I'm ready to thrown down a vote, but yeh waitin on hiplop first I suppose

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:59 am

on Hiplop. I think its hiplop and kast.

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:52 am

?Don't see why you would think otherwise.

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:28 am

If we are looking for a Godfather, it has to be one of Kast/Vezok

If we are looking for a vanillizer, its probably one of Tans/Hiplop.

What I think gives Hiplop the edge as scum is the fact that 1) He should have checked Tans, 2) His odd restrictions for his White Lantern Power

There's actually quite a lot of things interesting with the hiplop slot.
For one, he did very little scum-hunting, but a shit-ton of cult hunting.
When I jailkept Ludi (although if we are to believe Oversoul, I went nowhere), he commented that the single kill suggests Ludi could be mafia. Unfortunately, I forget as I'm writing this why I thought that was interesting...

ANYWAYS, once cult is out of the way, he simply goes "mafia is in kast/tans/vezok"...which is basically his only option and doesn't make sense given the fact that he copped me. I also think scum with a fake cop would be more likely to claim an innocent than a guilty, because it gives no information. Claiming a guilty on someone would put us in a much different situation b/w himself and the target. so, again...why choose me?

Kast, don't play the "if we lose its your fault" card. Thats just an emotional appeal and a bitch move. Me and BB are just as responsible as anyone else. And, if you and hiplop are town, then you cannot say you have done all you can to be obvtown.

Also, now you are becoming the key speculator. Seriously, stop saying what will happen if we lynch said person and actually prove why vezok is scummier than thou and hiplop. You and hiplop as buddies makes more sense than vezok and tans, in my opinion.

Kast wrote:Everything points to the vanillization roleblocking Toast and thus a successful recruit last night. A Tans recruit is the only thing that fits with KJ's behavior.

If this is the case, then I'm goin to rage like crazy in post-game. I mean, scum team can rage in post game about it not being balance for them, but a vanillizer who overcomes all night actions is fukin crazy overpowered.

There was also nothing to suggest that cult is left anymore, when it was HIGHLY suggested when we lynched Ludi and OS.

Tans/vezok/hiplop are all just lurkin' along in the thread, but Kast is being the outspoken one.

Generally, I see scum-teams comprised of
1 leader who is people have a high opinion of(BB or Kast), a lurker who doesn't give many reads (one of hiplop, vezok, tans), a sheep (Ghostwriter, apok) and a scapegoat (Andrius, Toog)

You can bitch about how this is inaccurate, but its worked for me before. It also means that one of Kast or BB is the scum-leader. Guess whose a cop and guess who isn't a cop? Guess whose obvtown and guess who isnt?

See, I can match Kast with any of the other 3. He defends hiplop the most. He buddied me like crazy, he was highly OMGLYNCHANDRIUS. Most of the people he thought were "mafia" flipped cult (i.e. he WAS hunting, just not for mafia) . His vote on apok just came out of nowhere, and he gave a little excuse to hop on the wagon.

Kast wrote:Town delayer is plausible; though if we did start with a 2 man cult, then there is a possibility Andy/TT are the town and mafia blockers with Vezok as the Cult Blocker.

Andy flipped scum-blocker. We know cult had multiple starting members, but they dead. soo....now you think vezok is scum, when before you felt his role was highly plausible.

Kast wrote:Tans is probably town; but Tans-town pretty much means Nik mafia and Muffin doesn't think that's possible.

Again, changed your mind now.

Kast wrote:Vezok + Anyone
Toast + CJ
Toast + Tans

Huh? again. So you ended up with Vezok + Tans? But why tans and not hiplop? You haven't explained this well at all

Anyways, thats all that's on my mind atm. Wow, this "in the moment" posting style surprises me sometimes.
Also, I think Kast is a better first lynch than hiplop, but I do think they are scum together.

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:30 am

Ah, and vezok's ISO/play...is just super normal. for him.
Tans is playing nothing like he did as an SK in the last game.

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:48 am

@hiplop: Detailed Kast opinion nao plz

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:48 pm

Muffin got killed because EVERYONE THOUGHT HE WAS TOWN. He was my only town read in this game for quite a while.
Kast, you're just being difficult. Don't antagonize me, its not helping.

I read vezok's ISO. I disagree with you.

Andy was obvscum since D1, and lurked like crazy. He didn't read the game and just said random shit.

Ugh, I'm in a bitchy mood I don't have time for this shit.

ToastyToast · Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:48 pm

1) Cult wouldn't help scum
2) I don't even understand your argument for why the two of you can't be scum together, so...

oh, and easy answer:
who said scum can't use their night action and submit the kill?

ToastyToast · Fri Oct 07, 2011 5:56 am

....This is terrible timing.

Vote:Hiplop

Has to be.
And before you bitch, Kast, I've thought about it a lot

also,

@Mod: V/LA until Sunday

ToastyToast · Fri Oct 07, 2011 6:13 am

top of the page U

ToastyToast · Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:29 am

@Kast: I think if you made a stronger argument on tans, it would've directed the suspicion off of you. At least, in my opinion, we should've been looking for the vanillizer, which would have to be either hiplop or tans. The defending hiplop thing just made me suspect the two of you more.

And yeah, I was very stubborn about vezok town. Turns out I think I'm right about everything.

ToastyToast · Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:34 am

What if me an BB were part of a secret gay cult of death who infiltrated the world of comic books? And we survived this whole time through the power of the RaInBoW Lantern Corps

ToastyToast · Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:38 am

now we need to come up with a rainbow lantern oath

ToastyToast · Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:06 pm

man, sad I missed the game's end. 'twas both fun and absolutely infuriating. I think that sums it up.

ToastyToast · Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:02 pm

In post 3795, danakillsu wrote:Look at this.
I threw out a nom for ToastyToast, since I think he was one of the main positive influences on the town. I know there were others of you that caught some scum, but ToastyToast stood out to me personally.

Why thank you

. I think this game was very back and forth for me. Lylo I became a swing vote, but I was never obvtown (well, then again, I'm never obvtown).
To my own credit, I did jailkeep cult every night