Mini 1221: Vegas Mafia (Over!)

[nintendoaddict1]

Uh...no, it's not? You of all people, nintendo, should know at this point that RVS votes with or without reasoning are null, and those on a bandwagon are meant to end RVS by pressuring the person on the other end.

Are you protecting ryu?[/quote]

If RVS votes are null, then why is it not too early to call people scum?

And agreeing with someone does not mean I am protecting them.

[Timeater]

Requesting meta citation on DH's playstyle if anyone has played with him before.

[Empking]

Hi Link: You got lucky.

Vote: DH

- I don't think he believes what he says.

Tim: Don't want to say.

[DemonHybrid]

Uh...no, it's not? You of all people, nintendo, should know at this point that RVS votes with or without reasoning are null, and those on a bandwagon are meant to end RVS by pressuring the person on the other end.

Are you protecting ryu?

If RVS votes are null, then why is it not too early to call people scum?

And agreeing with someone does not mean I am protecting them.[/quote]

Did you just forget about the fact that ryu's vote had absolutely no tone of an RVS vote?

Also, good answer on your last statement.

Timeater: I don't have a meta, except for the fact that I play quietly as scum about half of the time, depending on my mood, and I very occasionally am bored as town depending on the pace of the game. But my game list is in my wiki, feel free to review it.

[Hikari Link]

DemonHybrid is starting to sound full of shit.

VOTE: DemonHybrid

Let's see how you react now that the pressure is on.

[hahonryuu]

Still not seeing where the vote came from. I thought it was shifty to have a second vote on someone so early. I vote for you. This makes me scum....how exactly?

Because you don't understand how RVS works

and you are scum, opportunistically trying to pin me starting an RVS wagon as scummy.

If you were town, you should have been thanking me for trying to end RVS earlier.

apparently not. but that doesn't make me scum. that means I don't understand RVS. Besides, why thank you for ending RVS with a vote on someone with no explanation? if you are going to end it, wouldn't it be better to do it with a vote that has, i dunno...something to go off of? I saw something shifty and i address it. I'm sorry if there's something wrong with calling out a shifty action. I was under the assumption that's how things get done in here =/

You're missing my point.

Town mindset: "Oh, there's a 2nd vote on someone. Cool, lets see how the person on the other end of the bandwagon reacts."

Scum mindset: "Let me try to get the wagoner lynched, and use the fact that he posted no reasoning as a catalyst."

Did you really think my aim was to get Timeater lynched?

I dont know the first thing about you. i cant pretend to know what is in your head. maybe you were? maybe you werent? i dunno. Why is it that your vote is pressure and mine is scum? why exactly do you get to decide what my vote accomplishes compared to yours? its like 2 seconds into day 1, im not really expecting anyone to get lynched anytime soon whether its you trying to get timeater or me you. but that doesnt mean i wont vote/call someone out on behavior i dont like, just like you have with me

[DemonHybrid]

I dont know the first thing about you. i cant pretend to know what is in your head. maybe you were? maybe you werent? i dunno. Why is it that your vote is pressure and mine is scum? why exactly do you get to decide what my vote accomplishes compared to yours? its like 2 seconds into day 1, im not really expecting anyone to get lynched anytime soon whether its you trying to get timeater or me you. but that doesnt mean i wont vote/call someone out on behavior i dont like, just like you have with me

Okay, so, you have a vote. First post of the game, and it's without reason; a second vote on a bandwagon. Do you absolutely think that I was trying to hide something or get Timeater lynched? Because those are the two main reasons on why you'd feel the need to vote it.

Then you come in, and vote me for a non-RVS reason. It's for me being the 2nd vote on a wagon, and I honestly don't believe that you legitimately found it scummy. There are textbook RVS wagons ALL of the time, in nearly every game, and you waltz in and place a vote for someone trying to get the game out of RVS. The only "shiftiness" is what you've made of it, and that's what's scummy.

[nintendoaddict1]

I just remembered something. One time I called someone out for being the second vote on an RVS wagon. Then I believe I got lynched for it. Come to think of it, I think it was DH that was the one to get my lynch going.

[nintendoaddict1]

@nintendo

How much information is needed to end the RVS?

At least four or five pages, depending on the content posted.

Although that depends also on if anyone headdesk slips.

[Hikari Link]

I dont know the first thing about you. i cant pretend to know what is in your head. maybe you were? maybe you werent? i dunno. Why is it that your vote is pressure and mine is scum? why exactly do you get to decide what my vote accomplishes compared to yours? its like 2 seconds into day 1, im not really expecting anyone to get lynched anytime soon whether its you trying to get timeater or me you. but that doesnt mean i wont vote/call someone out on behavior i dont like, just like you have with me

Okay, so, you have a vote. First post of the game, and it's without reason; a second vote on a bandwagon. Do you absolutely think that I was trying to hide something or get Timeater lynched? Because those are the two main reasons on why you'd feel the need to vote it.

Then you come in, and vote me for a non-RVS reason. It's for me being the 2nd vote on a wagon, and I honestly don't believe that you legitimately found it scummy. There are textbook RVS wagons ALL of the time, in nearly every game, and you waltz in and place a vote for someone trying to get the game out of RVS. The only "shiftiness" is what you've made of it, and that's what's scummy.

Still just sounds like noob motivation to me. I know I used to think like that when I was a new player.

I just remembered something. One time I called someone out for being the second vote on an RVS wagon. Then I believe I got lynched for it. Come to think of it, I think it was DH that was the one to get my lynch going.

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

[hahonryuu]

I dont know the first thing about you. i cant pretend to know what is in your head. maybe you were? maybe you werent? i dunno. Why is it that your vote is pressure and mine is scum? why exactly do you get to decide what my vote accomplishes compared to yours? its like 2 seconds into day 1, im not really expecting anyone to get lynched anytime soon whether its you trying to get timeater or me you. but that doesnt mean i wont vote/call someone out on behavior i dont like, just like you have with me

Okay, so, you have a vote. First post of the game, and it's without reason; a second vote on a bandwagon. Do you absolutely think that I was trying to hide something or get Timeater lynched? Because those are the two main reasons on why you'd feel the need to vote it.

Then you come in, and vote me for a non-RVS reason. It's for me being the 2nd vote on a wagon, and I honestly don't believe that you legitimately found it scummy. There are textbook RVS wagons ALL of the time, in nearly every game, and you waltz in and place a vote for someone trying to get the game out of RVS. The only "shiftiness" is what you've made of it, and that's what's scummy.

maybe they do happen all the time, but unfortunately I wouldnt know. this is my second game on site. perhaps im just not used to what is commonplace and what isnt, but it just felt weird to me to see someone have a second vote with no reason given so early. and again, you ask me a questions as though I was supposed to know what you were thinking. for all i knew, you WERE trying to get him lynched. I dont know. unfortunately, as helpful as it would be in this game, im not psychic. what i did know is that i didnt like it.

[Empking]

Hi Link is town and is thinking just like me.

[Hikari Link]

Hi Link is town and is thinking just like me.

I will refrain from saying the same about you until you prove yourself a bit more. Last guy I had calling me town flipped scum.

[nintendoaddict1]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

[Hikari Link]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Well, it does show that he knows this can lead to shit lynches, if nothing else. Worth keeping an eye on him, at least.

[DemonHybrid]

I just remembered something. One time I called someone out for being the second vote on an RVS wagon. Then I believe I got lynched for it. Come to think of it, I think it was DH that was the one to get my lynch going.

And what alignment was I?

[DemonHybrid]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Didn't read this before I posted. Just got back from a meeting.

Opportunity votes are NOT shit things to vote for, and that's all I really have to say. My mind isn't 100% set on a ryuu lynch, but right now, he's the scummiest guy out of the gate. If things change, I will be flexible with my vote.

Link and Empking are town.

[Empking]

I just remembered something. One time I called someone out for being the second vote on an RVS wagon. Then I believe I got lynched for it. Come to think of it, I think it was DH that was the one to get my lynch going.

And what alignment was I?

Town as he just said.

[Hikari Link]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Didn't read this before I posted. Just got back from a meeting.

Opportunity votes are NOT shit things to vote for, and that's all I really have to say. My mind isn't 100% set on a ryuu lynch, but right now, he's the scummiest guy out of the gate. If things change, I will be flexible with my vote.

Link and Empking are town.

I don't care for town declarations without reasoning behind them.

[DemonHybrid]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Didn't read this before I posted. Just got back from a meeting.

Opportunity votes are NOT shit things to vote for, and that's all I really have to say. My mind isn't 100% set on a ryuu lynch, but right now, he's the scummiest guy out of the gate. If things change, I will be flexible with my vote.

Link and Empking are town.

I don't care for town declarations without reasoning behind them.

I thought it would be self explanatory, but scum don't usually go out on a limb making bold statements like "I think he's full of shit", and that's it. Especially someone like Empking.

Are you an alt, by the way? Curious.

[Hikari Link]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Didn't read this before I posted. Just got back from a meeting.

Opportunity votes are NOT shit things to vote for, and that's all I really have to say. My mind isn't 100% set on a ryuu lynch, but right now, he's the scummiest guy out of the gate. If things change, I will be flexible with my vote.

Link and Empking are town.

I don't care for town declarations without reasoning behind them.

I thought it would be self explanatory, but scum don't usually go out on a limb making bold statements like "I think he's full of shit", and that's it. Especially someone like Empking.

Are you an alt, by the way? Curious.

No, I'm not. Why, do I remind you of someone?

[DemonHybrid]

Not really, but you have a very sharp playstyle, so I was wondering.

[Empking]

Link please. This could be some solid evidence if DH was scum that game.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2992663

But he actually was town in that game. Still...

Didn't read this before I posted. Just got back from a meeting.

Opportunity votes are NOT shit things to vote for, and that's all I really have to say. My mind isn't 100% set on a ryuu lynch, but right now, he's the scummiest guy out of the gate. If things change, I will be flexible with my vote.

Link and Empking are town.

Didn't read this before I posted.

[Hikari Link]

Not really, but you have a very sharp playstyle, so I was wondering.

Are alts known for sharp playstyles? Or are you implying that I come off as more experienced than a player of my record typically would?

[DemonHybrid]

Not really, but you have a very sharp playstyle, so I was wondering.

Are alts known for sharp playstyles? Or are you implying that I come off as more experienced than a player of my record typically would?

You come off as more experienced.