Zom Com Mafia - Mini 1225 (Abandoned)

[Captain Corporal]

Bogre's #44 = uber townie

[Captain Corporal]

Hey Starbuck, you scum?
Jumping on the bandwagon with almost no reasoning, and agreeing with Bogre's post before he changed it.
Sounds like oppertunistic scum to me.
It's not much, but I'll take it.
VOTE: Starbuck
Another probscum is Seraph

[Starbuck]

I gave reasoning. You're reaching for a case that isn't there.

[Twistedspoon]

why is everyone talking about opportunistic votes?

It is/was RVS >_>

[Seraphim]

Starbuck, this looks like the beginning of a long and beautiful relationship.

I did it to cause interaction. It has caused interaction no? Right.

Hahahaha. You just keep coming up with excuses for your actions. The fact that you keep changing your story makes me think you're flustered and flailing. It looked like a serious vote based on shitty reasoning? No, it was a joke, a random vote. It doesn't look like a joke. Of course not, I did it to get reactions. Hahahaha.

If anyone legitimately thinks Maruchan is scum based on his first vote, stop playing so terribly.

His reaction to the votes on him is a bit scummy, but anyone that votes based on his RVS vote is ridiculous.

Hello, scum number 2. Nice distancing.

Also, stop dodging my question: who is scum?

Cojin: who is scum?

Twistedspoon: PR = power roles but it also equals post restriction. SleepyKrew has a post restriction(PR). Obviously everyone has a power role.

Now I get to deal with Captain Corporal.

Why would scum ask a question like I did, knowing that it has caused me trouble in the past? Rolefishing? Lol, anyone with a brain wouldn't write in their real role.

Here's a better question: what, as town, do you stand to gain for it? Don't WIFOM your way out of this one.

There is a time and a place for the "RQS"(random question stage), but those times and places tend to be rare. For example, if there is a game with strange mechanics, for example Stars Aligned, there might be good questions that everyone should answer. However, the best questions are the beginning of the game are ones targeting SPECIFIC players about SPECIFIC things. For example:

Maruchan: you're new to the site. What sort of off-site experience do you have?
InflatablePie: Why did you wagon Chronopie?

etc etc

I don't like random questions unless I see a benefit to them besides "starting discussion". Waiting for everyone to answer them bogs down the game severely. Also, I don't like the fact that you're not following through with your questioning and following through with any meaningful results from what you've culled so far.

The townslip(s) on page 3 seemed genuine, but they could easily be WIFOM =/ Still, he seems town to me.

How are they townslips?

Not sure about Seraphim at this point. #67 it seems as though he's trying to get suspicion off himself and onto Maru, but #68 looks town to me (although I'm not exactly sure why =/)

Twistedspoon does not think I'm scum. So how I am deflecting suspicion?

I'll let Starbuck defend herself, but I think CC's case on her is serious bullshit.

Twistedspoon, who is scum?

[Twistedspoon]

Twistedspoon, who is scum?

that's the £10000000 question

If I knew I would have said

Jakalope maybe?

I'm rereading anyhow

[Twistedspoon]

scum?

possibly cojin for strawmanning the entire thread

have no idea on chrono and Starbuck

I think seraphim's town, but then again I thought that in Band Upick and I was woefully wrong so...

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 1-4

Maruchan (4)

- Seraphim, InflatablePie, Bogre, Starbuck

Starbuck (2)

- PeregrineV, Captain Corporal

Seraphim (1)

- SleepyKrew

Cojin (1)

- Chronopie

TheJakalope (1)

- Twistedspoon

PeregrineV (1)

- ace5993

Not Voting (3)

- Cojin, TheJakalope, Maruchan

With thirteen votes in play, seven votes are required to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2011-09-11 22:46:20).

[Maruchan]

Hey there everyone, first off, I'm noticing everyone hates my question. Everyone always seems to. Although, you'd save a whole lot of pointless arguing if you'd just answer it. Which brings me to my next point. Why would scum ask a question like I did, knowing that it has caused me trouble in the past? Rolefishing? Lol, anyone with a brain wouldn't write in their real role.

WFIMOM WFIMOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM

lets never again ask the "Why in gos name would scum EVER do ____?" question please.

[Maruchan]

Starbuck, this looks like the beginning of a long and beautiful relationship.

I did it to cause interaction. It has caused interaction no? Right.

Hahahaha. You just keep coming up with excuses for your actions. The fact that you keep changing your story makes me think you're flustered and flailing. It looked like a serious vote based on shitty reasoning? No, it was a joke, a random vote. It doesn't look like a joke. Of course not, I did it to get reactions. Hahahaha.

Saying it was RVS and saying it was to cause interactions, ARE NOT CONTRADICTORY TERMS dufud.

ALL RVS votes are purely to generate interaction.

quit flailing at flimsy ass excuses as to how I am scummy.

[Maruchan]

Maruchan: you're new to the site. What sort of off-site experience do you have?

Leraned about the concept of mafia in February, played Epicmafia from February-June, found forum mafia and ditched epicmafia. Played 1-game to completion, and am dead in 4, still alive in 6, one of which is night.

[Starbuck]

Epic Mafia. That's where our problem is.

[Maruchan]

Yes I know. It sucks. Hence why I have stopped playing at it.

[Bogre]

You guys are trying too hard to paint that as a townslip.
I just haven't caught the forth Zombieber yet.

THats a fuckin towntell. telling us a townslip isnt a townslip and purposefully saying that the towncred it earns him is not his.

Yeah, WIFOM.

[Bogre]

unvote

I'm not sure if my vote is still o nsleepykrew? but it shouldn't be.

BALK. Why shouldn't it be ? Why didn't you put it somewhere else?

[ace5993]

Daytalk stuff

Why the huge blowup about this? You severely overreacted to a statement that didn't even concern you. In fact the only way it was relevant to you at all was that you didn't agree with it. Would you say that you have this tendency to overreact in all your games? Yes, asking for self-meta here but only one completed game so lol. The only reason I ask is that I don't see this argument as necessarily being scummy.

What is a little bit more concerning is Maruchan's contrived latest reason for voting SleepyKrew. You voted him to get "interaction"? This is just a blatant lie. Flailing hard as newb-town I could see but making up lies as newb-town is far less likely. I could definitely see Maru being scum but I could also see Maru being town, and I'm not so sure I'm ready to support this wagon. I could easily see this being scum-driven.

Maruchan: If you are telling the truth here what interaction did you hope to gain from voting SK?

And if you're seriously going to attack me for vote-hopping(Ace) or voting "opportunisticly"(SleepyKrew), please explain to me how it's scummy. Yes, I've voted for a lot of people. I am giving and explaining my reads, on who I feel is scum at that moment, or who I feel needs pressure.

I attacked you for vote-hopping because I feel voting (and FoS'ing in this case) for a bunch of people early in the game is a great way to say "A lot of people are scummy, I'm cool with any lynch that looks like it's going to fly".

InflatablePie: Why did you wagon Chronopie?

What is the purpose of this question?

Anyway, I believe the person who needs pressure the most here is

Vote: Seraphim

[Bogre]

If anyone legitimately thinks Maruchan is scum based on his first vote, stop playing so terribly.

His reaction to the votes on him is a bit scummy, but anyone that votes based on his RVS vote is ridiculous.

PEdit: Why did RVS end after you voted Sera?

It's not ridiculous- he's faltering and giving like...different reasons for his votes. One, kill the post restriction, then it's a random funny joke, then it's to cause 'interactions'. It sounds like he's making up excuses as he goes along.

[Maruchan]

unvote

I'm not sure if my vote is still o nsleepykrew? but it shouldn't be.

BALK. Why shouldn't it be ? Why didn't you put it somewhere else?

Why did n't I put it somewhere else? Because i don't think it needs to be anywhere else right this second.

Why shouldn't it be on him? I don't think he is scummy.

[Maruchan]

What is a little bit more concerning is Maruchan's contrived latest reason for voting SleepyKrew. You voted him to get "interaction"? This is just a blatant lie. Flailing hard as newb-town I could see but making up lies as newb-town is far less likely. I could definitely see Maru being scum but I could also see Maru being town, and I'm not so sure I'm ready to support this wagon. I could easily see this being scum-driven.

straddle the fence summor whydoncha

[SleepyKrew]

So far I have 6 suspects, which should be reasonable with 4 scum:
Seraphim- opportunistic, flailing, my "townslip", bussing so hard
Maruchan- my "townslip", interactions with Sera, Daytalk issue
Twistedspoon- my "townslip", interactions
Cojin- we appreciate your contribution
Starbuck- I forget why I'm suspicious of you, will re-read and possibly take off list
TheJakalope- stuff others have said
I see Zombiebers before me.

[SleepyKrew]

Also, to whoever asked, RVS ended when I voted Sera because it was a serious vote. Duh.
Ain't Zombiebers got no brains?

[SleepyKrew]

Starbuck, why did you FoS Maruscum but not vote?
Scumread is not changing.
Damn Zombieber.

[TheJakalope]

If anyone legitimately thinks Maruchan is scum based on his first vote, stop playing so terribly.

His reaction to the votes on him is a bit scummy, but anyone that votes based on his RVS vote is ridiculous.

PEdit: Why did RVS end after you voted Sera?

It's not ridiculous- he's faltering and giving like...different reasons for his votes. One, kill the post restriction, then it's a random funny joke, then it's to cause 'interactions'. It sounds like he's making up excuses as he goes along.

I think Maruchan is scummy, just not for his first vote.

[SleepyKrew]

Then why aren't you voting?
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maru
I spy, with my little eye, a horde of Zombiebers coming right at me!

[TheJakalope]

To whoever kept asking me who I think is scum.

Out of Seraphim, Maruchan, and SleepyKrew, one is scum.