Mini 1246 - Bizarro Mafia: ...Mate! Who won?

[VisceraEyes]

hiplop it's not an interrogation bro. Why don't you like being questioned? Is it that you don't like being under scrutiny? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE HIPLOP?!?!??1!??!ELEVEN

[ace5993]

I feel we've already proven how dumb RQS is since absolutely no discussion has been generated from it so far. Everyone should really start "pretend voting" or this game is going to become messy. Junpei - What is a negative of creating vote counts in this game?

I still think everyone should be voting mozami right now. Also InternetStranger's #27 is bad fencesitting - reluctance to vote his scumbuddy perhaps?

[Otolia]

I am against pseudo-voting for someone until the kill is done by the Mafia. Voting clearly identify the danger for the scum. We have to work without in order to set-up a clean field for the PR to work with. Once the kill is done and provided that the PR didn't die, we can work on agreeing upon the Night Lynch.

What do you think that ?

[hiplop]

hiplop it's not an interrogation bro. Why don't you like being questioned? Is it that you don't like being under scrutiny? DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE HIPLOP?!?!??1!??!ELEVEN

i have a dark past, I'm the hero this town deserves. But not the one it needs right now. And so we'll hunt the mafia with myself. Because I can take it. Because I'm not our hero. I'm a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A dark knight

[VisceraEyes]

You're not the goddamn batman hiplop...and even Bruce Wayne would answer those questions.

Regarding the questions in...question....I assumed that the conversation ABOUT them would start once the asker got the answers from everyone and revealed the purpose of them. Because LIKE random voting, random questions are very RARELY random.

Now, ace, why are you all about a mozami lynch already? Have you determined that he's scum already?

[Darox]

Pffft you're far too naive.

Those questions are useless.

[hiplop]

lets just kill mozamis? RANDOM KILLING is FUN

[Junpei]

They help me scumhunt, Darox. Do you still refuse to answer them?

Ace: This post made me laugh.

"if we dnt pretend 2 do wat we always we do we get lost!"

Okay, with that out of the way, upon further analysis, I don't see anything inherently wrong with the votecount being the way it is. I do feel like day votes are much less powerful now (not just mechanically), but a vote count is a good way to organize town's opinions. Although I agree with Otolia that we shouldn't decide on a lynch (or unanimously agree to anything) until after the mafia kill. We can't tip the mafia our hand in a setup like this.

[Darox]

Sure, I'll answer them.

RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

too deep 4 me

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

Trick question, they're the same thing.

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

Trick question, they're the same thing.

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

People not knowing what they're talking about doesn't stop them from criticizing.

[hiplop]

?

wrong answer @ #3

[ace5993]

lets just kill mozamis? RANDOM KILLING is FUN

Hardly random.

I think Junpei is a little butthurt that in the one chance RQS had to completely overpower RVS it completely failed. Also Darox is correct, they are absolutely useless questions not intended to spur conversation in any way (nor is there evidence of the questions helping Junpei in any way).

VisceraEyes - No, I do not support a lynch on anyone right now, but yes, I do believe mozamis is scum and deserves a wagon on him.

[Darox]

Nope, unless you're really terrible at reacting.

If you're doing anything right, you should already have considered all the possible moves they could make and an appropriate response so that you can leap into action with after only minor tweaking to your plans as the situation demands

[hiplop]

i have META on mozamis btw, this doesnt SEEM like him town.

[VisceraEyes]

META YOU SAY?!?!?!?

pretendUnvote: Whiskers

pretendVote: mozamis

Because past actions ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME DETERMINE FUTURE BEHAVIOR!!!

[Otolia]

i have META on mozamis btw, this doesnt SEEM like him town.

Do you have anything remotely useful other than metaclaim after 3 pages ?

GUYS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, THIS IS NOT A KINDERGARTEN !

[VisceraEyes]

Theeeere we go, that was the fake-reaction I was looking for.

realPM'd Vote: Otolia

3 pages HAVE elapsed. Stuff HAS happened. I guess by your feigned anger that YOU don't have anything remotely useful after 3 pages...or you'd probably be sharing that instead of putting on a show for town-cred. *shrug*

[Otolia]

Learn to read VisceralEyes :

I am against pseudo-voting for someone until the kill is done by the Mafia. Voting clearly identify the danger for the scum. We have to work without in order to set-up a clean field for the PR to work with. Once the kill is done and provided that the PR didn't die, we can work on agreeing upon the Night Lynch.

What do you think that ?

You should answer that question instead of fluffing like a 13 years old.

[hiplop]

i have META on mozamis btw, this doesnt SEEM like him town.

Do you have anything remotely useful other than metaclaim after 3 pages ?

GUYS FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, THIS IS NOT A KINDERGARTEN !

yup now sheep me or we'll lynch u

[VisceraEyes]

BOTH possible PR's need to act BEFORE the night-kill, as they relate DIRECTLY to the night-kill. I think helping scum pick their targets IN THIS SETUP is actually BENEFICIAL for town, so no, I don't agree with your bullshit idea.

Now I'd appreciate it if you'd hang from the neck until dead.

[Otolia]

BOTH possible PR's need to act BEFORE the night-kill, as they relate DIRECTLY to the night-kill. I think helping scum pick their targets IN THIS SETUP is actually BENEFICIAL for town, so no, I don't agree with your bullshit idea.

Now I'd appreciate it if you'd hang from the neck until dead.

Watcher =/= Tracker

/facepalm

[VisceraEyes]

What does that have to do with anything?

[VisceraEyes]

Your facepalm doesn't explain how the TRACKER (not the watcher) is supposed to track someone he suspects if he acts AFTER the kill.

[Otolia]

Ok, I'm gonna go the 'maieutikê' way.

Why did you said it was beneficial to the town if we help the scum picking their targets ?
What does a tracker ?
What does a watcher ?

[VisceraEyes]

The tracker STILL HAS TO TRACK SOMEONE! People giving their reads and expressing WHO they intend to vote for is INTEGRAL in helping them to decide who is the most suspicious. I don't care WHAT Socrates has taught you, what you're proposing is ridiculous.

[Otolia]

Tracking is related to the people accomplishing the action, thus it doesn't matter which person the scum is likely to kill because what matters for the tracker is who is gonna make the kill. Giving your reads is fine, pseudo-voting is not because when you can express your reads on many people, you can only vote for one which clearly pinpoint the danger for the scum and manipulate that to their liking.

The tracker has to pick a target before the scum and that's a hindrance, but likewise the scum has to decide which townie to kill. That's a race against time between town PRs and scum and when we are before the kill, we shouldn't vote.