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Mini 1246 - Bizarro Mafia: ...Mate! Who won?

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:33 pm
by Jedo the Jedi
Bizarro Mafia


Welcome to the game where everything is topsy-turvy! John McCain is President of the United States, Target is the leading superstore, the Buffalo Bills are the defending Super Bowl champs, and Mr. Flay is the coolest person on MafiaScum. We hope you will enjoy your stay here.


Living in the Land of the Bizarre:

6) ace5993, Mafia - Victor


Returned to Reality:

10)
Whiskers, Vanilla Townie - Killed Day 1

4)
Internet Stranger, Mafia - Lynched Night 1

3)
Otolia, Town Tracker - Killed Day 2

1)
Darox, Mafia - Lynched Night 2

12)
Pads, Town Doctor - Killed Day 3

8)
Junpei, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Night 3

2)
Wasabi, Vanilla Townie - Killed Day 4

5)
hiplop, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Night 4

7)
TehBrawlGuy, Vanilla Townie - Killed Day 5

13)
mozamis, Vanilla Townie - Lynched Night 5

9)
VisceraEyes, Vanilla Townie - Endgamed


Cast into Oblivion (modkilled):

11)
Thirdkoopa, Vanilla Townie - Modkilled Day 3

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:39 pm
by Jedo the Jedi
RULES
(stolen and modified from Kdub)

General Rules

A1) The mod's decisions are final.
A2) If you feel that I have made a mistake or otherwise have questions, you may send me a PM or post a bolded message in thread like this:
Mod: (message)
.
A3) You may not discuss this game outside of the game thread unless your role allows you to do so.
A4) You may not discuss other games still in progress in the game thread.
A5) If you are dead, you are allowed one “Bah!” post, but you may not post any content or communicate with living players about the game.
A6) You may not quote or pretend to quote private communications with the mod or other players. You may paraphrase, but you should check with me first if you are unsure if you are crossing the line.
A7) You may not post in invisible text, encrypted text, or any other form of communication that is intended not to be easily read by all players.
A8) You may not edit any posts.
A9) Please do not post in
blue
text.
A10) If you are modkilled, you lose the game, even if your faction eventually wins. I will decide whether modkills end the day.
A11) If you want to do something which you think might break the rules, PM the mod and ask first.
A12) I reserve the right to add rules or make exceptions to any existing rules if I feel there is a situation that requires the mod to intervene.

Special Rules: Voting

B1) Votes must be PMed to the mod.
B2) You may change your vote until the deadline for Day.
B3) There is no lynch majority. The person with the most votes at the start of Day will be lynched.
B4) You may vote No Lynch in place of a person.

Special Rules: Deadlines and Activity

C1) Deadline for day will be 1 week + the length of Rule C2. This may be extended by popular vote for a maximum length of 2 weeks.
C2) Days will end 72 hours after the mafia kill is resolved.
C3) Deadline for night will be 48 hours. Players may submit their night vote early if they wish.
C4) The official vote count will be posted in the morning with the lynch.
C5) I will try to prod players when they have not posted for 48 hours. Players may also request prods on other players. All prods will be announced in thread.
C6) If a player does not respond to a prod within 48 hours, or if they need to be prodded too often, they will be replaced. This will be up to the discretion of the mod.
C7) If you will be unable to post for over 48 hours, inform the mod through PM or in the game thread. All V/LA notifications will be made public by the mod unless the player has already done so.

Special Rules: Action Submissions

D1) Action submissions occur during the Day.
D2) The mafia kill may occur any time after 48 hours from start of Day. Once the mafia kill has occurred, there will be 72 hours for discussion before the end of Day. (see rule C2)
D3) The town PRs may submit their action at any time, but they should be aware that the mafia may get their kill in early. The town PRs should therefore submit their actions in a timely manner.
D4) Actions may be pre-submitted for the following Day phase and will count as being submitted immediately at the start of that Day.
D5) Natural Action Resolution will be used to resolve multiple actions that would otherwise resolve simultaneously.
D6) During the "twilight" period between the end of Day deadline and when the mod officially ends the Day, players may continue to post.

Sportsmanship

E1) Remember, mafia is a team game. Always play to you win condition.
E2) Do not invoke external non-mafia factors (i.e. threats, wagers, or demands not related to this game) in an attempt to influence the game.
E3) Avoid personal attacks on other players.
E4) Treat this game as a commitment and try to stay active out of fairness to the other players.

Other Notes About Setup

F1) Mafia may only discuss privately from the start of Night until the resolution of their kill the next day.

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:41 pm
by Jedo the Jedi
Everyone has confirmed receipt of their role. Let the games begin!

Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:54 pm
by Darox
Sup.

Let's talk about not having a RVS by virtue of it being 'night'.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 12:34 am
by mozamis
Hello.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:15 am
by hiplop
sup

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:31 am
by Junpei
RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:49 am
by Pads
Heya all, good luck to everyone.

It's a little tricky to do a RVS without the ability to vote during the day. I suppose we'll have to invent our own lingo. Probably not a bad idea so we can keep track of people's suspicions. Pending Vote: Darox, perhaps?

pVote: Darox

...for beating me to the punch with an animated animal avatar.

And I really don't think of this as night. I think of the game rules as more taking the town out of our comfort zones and removing some of the benefits normally associated with the town. We won't be able to watch trains form until after the person is dead and the lynch majority requirement, which really is almost like a safety net there to protect us (especially in lynch or lose) is gone.

In return, we get a second power role over what might be considered normal, a PR-less mafia, and a tracker whose value is slightly higher than normal thanks to the open setup.

Should be an interesting game.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:12 am
by Otolia
Hi guys, did I miss the part where the setup is explained ?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:25 am
by Wasabi
In post 6, Junpei wrote:RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.


1. Uh, my soul?
2. Presently, my strengths lie in logic, though I'm working to improve my gut instincts.
3. I try to anticipate. I'm a troubleshooter by trade, so I'm pretty decent at considering the various branches of possibility. But all roads lead to WIFOM, so I've found it easier (though not necessarily safer) to react.
4. Ugh, sounds like a terrible place to be, with no negative consequences. I'll pass, thanks.


In post 7, Pads wrote:In return, we get a second power role over what might be considered normal, a PR-less mafia, and a tracker whose value is slightly higher than normal thanks to the open setup.


Is this info explicitly stated someplace? It's new to me.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:26 am
by Wasabi
Oh, and Howdy to mozamis, and Internet Stranger; good to see you again.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:52 am
by mozamis
hullo wasabi and hiplop the 2 peeps I have played with before :)
Its gonna be weird not voting.
How are we gonna find scum if we can't put pressure on people?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:54 am
by mozamis
And is this the day or the night? I thought it was the day, but pads post made me pause.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:09 am
by Internet Stranger
From reading the second post:

We send it votes to the mod by PM.
Then the day ends 1 week + 3 meatworld days after the mafia kill someone.
Then the votes are revealed and someone gets lynched the next game day.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:32 am
by Wasabi
In post 13, Internet Stranger wrote:From reading the second post:

We send it votes to the mod by PM.
Then the day ends 1 week + 3 meatworld days after the mafia kill someone.
Then the votes are revealed and someone gets lynched the next game day.


You probably weren't responding to me, but yeah, saw that - nightkill/lynch are backwards - what happens if they're the same target?

Also, I'm still wondering about where the info about the PR-less mafia and town-aligned power roles came from?

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:38 am
by Wasabi
Aha, found it: HERE.

In post 3214, Jedo the Jedi wrote:Basically, the Night and Day phases are flipped in terms of events: voting at Night and actions during Day.
The setup is open with 3 mafia/1 doc/1 tracker/8 vanilla.


Emphasis mine.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:35 am
by mozamis
I know this does not count, or even mean anything, but it's bizzarre so that's ok :P

VOTE OTOLIA

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:36 am
by mozamis
oR bIZARRE EVEN.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:15 am
by VisceraEyes
Hello everyone! Gosh, it's great to be here. I agree with the notion of forgoing the RVS stage, as it's pretty useless anyway in my opinion.

In post 6, Junpei wrote:RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.


1) Oooo riddles. I'm not going to answer this until I figure out the answer. X)
2) Logic obviously. Gut is wrong at the very least, 50% of the time. Logic can be used to never be wrong (when used properly...I don't typically XD). I don't like being wrong.
3) Both? One cannot NOT react to enemy moves, and I DO try and anticipate enemy moves.
4) In a world where I could never be criticized for being wrong, I would likely lie more often subconsciously...but it wouldn't be intentional. But I WOULD certainly speak my mind and take action more often.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:22 am
by ace5993
I suggest we keep an unofficial vote count of "day votes", which helps in several ways. Voting blind isn't the best idea.
Vote: mozamis

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:27 am
by Thirdkoopa
In post 6, Junpei wrote:RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?

2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?

Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.

1. EVERYTHING
no really i dont know
2. Logic, of course. Especially since Gut can be used to back up logic, but logic is harder to use to back up gut.
3. I react.
4. I'd probably speak my mind, to be frank.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:51 am
by mozamis
In post 19, ace5993 wrote:I suggest we keep an unofficial vote count of "day votes", which helps in several ways. Voting blind isn't the best idea.
Vote: mozamis

OMG U SUCK CHOC SALTY BALLS!
UNVOTE VOTE ACE5993


ps I spent a lot of my last game arguing how about gut is more important than logic in mafia but I got lynched so I'll skip that argument this time.
But yeah I like to go on instinct -in a game where you it's very difficult to accuratley assess the validity of any statement, logic is severely limited.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:51 am
by mozamis
ah didn't answer hose questions one sec.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:53 am
by mozamis
In post 6, Junpei wrote:RQS!
1)
Of fire and ice, I proceed.
From my cage I have been freed.
The cage of flesh and bone,
with what I once forbode.

What was in your cage?
A QUARTER POUNDER AND CHEESE MEAL :D


2) Some prefer logic, others their gut, how say you?
Gut.

3) Are you one who anticipates the enemy move, or one who reacts to the enemy's moves?
Dunno.

4) In a world where you could never be critisized for being wrong (because no one would know that you are wrong) would you lie more often than normal? Would you speak your mind/do things more than normal?
The truth is the most important thing.
Gotta go for now, but when I get back, I'll analyze the mechanics more.

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:48 am
by Whiskers
pretendvote: VE.