Mini 1250: That 70s Smalltown - GAME OVER

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Seacore ...

I can't stand stoner hippies. You need my

foot

vote up your ass!

[The Fonz]

Farside22 (0)
MagnaofIllusion (0)
ConSpiracy (0)
IceGuy (0)
Quilford (0)
hiplop (0)
iamausername (0)
jasont1981(0)
kondi2424 (1) Seacore
Seacore (1) MagnaofIllusion
kdowns (0)
mb53 (0)

Not voting: Farside22, ConSpiracy, IceGuy, Quilford, hiplop, iamausername, jasont1981,kondi2424, kdowns, mb53

[mb53]

Vote: Seacore

Vote: MoI

Because they are both lame for trying to sound like their role.

[The Fonz]

mb, you have one vote that counts double. You can't split your vote. Please make clear which of the two you are voting for.

[kdowns]

VOTE: Hiplop

You're electronics have always been crap to me ...

[kondi2424]

VOTE: ConSpiracy

[hiplop]

VOTE: FARSIDE

You can't hold a banjo and not smile!

[jasonT1981]

vote:mb53

If I can't have my celeb crush (Laura Prepon - Donna), no one can

[iamausername]

No need for random voting here, c'mon.

VOTE: kdowns

His role has by far the highest ratio of worth to scum/worth to town.

farside should definitely be saving her ability for taking Seacore's ability when he is inevitably killed before D3. (Even if he's scum, the SK will want to be rid of him too, so.) The only other role that I might see her taking is the tracker. She should not have the option of taking any role that would help her as scum in any way.

Quilford should be jailing Seacore every night. If Seacore is scum, it keeps him from making the kill, if he's town, it keeps him alive.

Everyone who has an action to perform should be performing it every night; the more limited scum are in who can make the kill for them, the better.

At some point, we're going to want to lynch MoI with all the scummiest players on the wagon, but that's something to save for a later day.

That's all I've got for now.

[Seacore]

Hey, Red, man, Red. I served in WW2, you and I, we gotta stick together.

But I agree with Midge, man, Hyde's sneaky. Sometimes, I can't even see him! Like when I'm at home and he's not there.

Unvote. Vote kdowns

[farside22]

@Iam: It's been a long time since I played small town. I thought the alignment was random and had nothing to do with what role was picked.?

I agree with what you say about Quil JK, seacore.

vote: CS

To get the argument over with early.

[hiplop]

farside i think he means if it went to scum, its the most helpful for them.

[farside22]

farside i think he means if it went to scum, its the most helpful for them.

Ah. I misunderstood.
Out guessing the mod is not my cup of tea.

[Seacore]

It's not even about outguessing the mod.

It's basically saying this:

We know every PR in the game AND who has them.
Day 1 is nearly always a random lynch, since nobody has good evidence yet, unless somebody wants to claim scum?

So a good place to start with a lynch is "what role can we remove that will hurt scum the most to lose, and hurt town the least to move?" And the answer is it's the Hyde role.

[Seacore]

It's not even about outguessing the mod.

It's basically saying this:

We know every PR in the game AND who has them.
Day 1 is nearly always a random lynch, since nobody has good evidence yet, unless somebody wants to claim scum?

So a good place to start with a lynch is "what role can we remove that will hurt scum the most to lose, and hurt town the least to

lose

?" And the answer is it's the Hyde role.

Fixed. Should not be discussing moving office while typing.

[kdowns]

So you're proposing that you should mislynch me and then during the night phase there will be 2 NK's leaving us at 9 people starting day 2. I'm sorry I am going to prevent my lynch because I will not let it go by that the many reasons for starting towards a lynch on me is because of my Role.

[Seacore]

No, I'm not proposing that we mislynch you.
I'm saying that I agree Iam, that rather than start with a usual round of RVS, we should begin our discussion on who the best case mislynch would be. And it's you.

I don't like your defence by the way. First of all, how are you going to stop us if a bunch of us agree to lynch you?

Secondly, assuming you are town, there are 8 other people that your mislynch calculation applies to. Yes, if we mislynch somebody and both NKs go through, of course we go from 12 to 9. 9 players is still 5 v 3 v 1 by the way, assuming no cross kills.
I get a taste of scum saying "I can't believe I'm getting run up for this! I haven't even done anything scummy yet!"

If you really want to prevent your lynch, convince us that you're town by scum hunting, not just saying "hey, don't lynch me for that reason"

[kdowns]

Seacore, You are pretty much proposing to Lynch me because my Role is essentially helpful towards scum if I was scum, but I'm not.
[quote=Seacore]So a good place to start with a lynch is "what role can we remove that will hurt scum the most to lose, and hurt town the least to move?" And the answer is it's the Hyde role.[/quote]

Do you deny that you were proposing to lynch me because of my Role because of the said reason above. I will prevent the lynch on me by stating on how scummy your stance is right now due to the fact you're stating reasons on how a lynch on me will be a positive one when I haven't even posted in game besides my Random Vote. It seems to me that you've marked me off as the lynch today.

[Seacore]

I think there's a little confusion so I will give you some benefit of the doubt.

I'm saying you should be an early and significant wagon toDay. This is because we have the least to lose if you are the mislynch compared to any other mislynch and the most to gain if you are a scum lynch compared to any other scum lynch.

I am not saying you should be the inevitable lynch. But whereas most games are forced to start with some random wagons or some contrived "scum tells" to get the ball rolling, the benefit/risk analysis of lynching your role gives us a good start to this game.

[Seacore]

But to follow up. Do you believe that pushing your lynch on the basis of your role is a scummy action?

Why would scum want this? Which of us currently voting for you is scummier due to our case/vote?

[kdowns]

Pushing a Lynch on that basis is more of a Null-Scum action.

I think Iam is possibly the more scummier one for now due to the fact that he actually brought this up as a case when the RVS had pretty much started.

[Seacore]

What do you think is a reasonable basis to lynch somebody on Day 1?

[kdowns]

Reasonable basis to lynch someone Day 1 for me is usually a major Scum yell ( A Scumtell that just yells at us), or seems legitimately scummy or has had that scummy presence for the whole day period.

[Seacore]

So
A) Major Scum Yell
B) Seems legitimately scummy
C) Has seemed fairly scummy all day

Okay, so A and B seem much the same and require a fairly incompetent scum team
C is out of reach

So since it's not appropriate to talk about lynching anybody, because there isn't a good reason to do so, anybody seen any good TV lately?

[kdowns]

Well essentially that is my feel, but other people do have different requisites that they hold when it comes to figuring out a lynch.

Also it disturbs me that you would attempt to change the subject by asking if anyone as seen any good TV lately.