NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!

[Slandaar]

I actually agree with a policy lynch but not that one

Vote: zdenek

let's policy lynch the person who suggested the policy lynch

If there's anyone I'd consider PLing in this game, it's you, Beck.

I agree with beck

vote: Pine

'I agree with beck' 'but im gonna vote pine' it makes no sense, Pine doesnt suggest a policy lynch, so the vote is completely random, the reason and vote do not match. Hiraki, can you explain why you have not noticed this?

[Beck]

Serious note: Can someone explain the proposed lynch on DavidParker? Sounds similar to the attitudes I recall about Deity Kabuto.

Lynching DK is always the right thing to do.

Ok next you called me arrogant, which implies I think I'm good and I show it but I have never claimed to be good, even have admitted I'm not that great on this site yet. Plus that game was my 2nd game on site iirc so I was still learning the ways of MS

Useless? That's subjective

Intolerable? Again subjective.

Since that game I feel my play has improved as I have toned back my aggression. I hope to demonstrate my improvements each game I play, I feel like this should be my best game yet if I don't get distracted, so with that being said I'm done discussing that game cause it's pointless and it's distracting from this game.

I like the point made about TheA, it's sort of the same reason I'm voting revenous, he votes hiraki but says he meant to vote zde, when somebody mentions he should unvote he makes a lame terrorist joke instead of actually un-voting.

He than jumps on me for another lame reason.

[bvoigt]

VOTE: Revenus

[bvoigt]

because like Beck said, he's just voting people without really caring about who it is.

[Slandaar]

bv did you read Revs posts before voting?

[Slandaar]

what do you make of someone who does not correct a mistake and instead rolls with it? do you find it townie or scummy?

[Beck]

what do you make of someone who does not correct a mistake and instead rolls with it? do you find it townie or scummy?

Personally it's null, but combine all his posts so far and it's a good place for my vote.

[theamatuer]

Actually Pine was talking about PLing Beck, so I voted him instead.
No one PLs Beck.

[DarthYoshi]

Day One, Vote Count the First

DavidParker

(3): Zel1nk, iamausername, funkybike
sword_of_omens (2): SodaSpirit17, Hiraki
Hiraki (2): Pine, Shattered Viewpoint
Revenus (2): Beck, bvoigt
Sorgster (1): Zdenek
Zdenek (1): Sorgster
Pine (1): theamatuer
SodaSpirit17 (1): Sky
Beck (1): Revenus
theamatuer (1): Slandaar

Not Voting (8): ThAdmiral, DavidParker, sword_of_omens, Primate, DamnFail, Jackal711, popsofctown, slandaar

WITH TWENTY-TWO ALIVE, IT'S TWELVE TO LYNCH.
DEADLINE: NOVEMBER 2ND @ 10PM PACIFIC.

[Slandaar]

Actually Pine was talking about PLing Beck, so I voted him instead.
No one PLs Beck.

Pine was saying if he were to PL it would be beck, but he obviously didnt go with that, so no, he was not talking about PL beck.

[Beck]

has Mr. Parker even confirmed yet?

No posts from him is quite troubling.

Revenous, I don't need a list of reads, but your next post contain some sort of game content.

And can I suggest not giving mafia any info to help them? These "lists" of town to scum reads just gives mafia a better idea who to target and who to keep alive, plus they usually aren't useful. I'd rather the energy spent on making a case on 1 or 2 people.

That's all I got for now.

[theamatuer]

Well okay then

unvote
vote: zdenek

[Slandaar]

Why are you now voting zdenek?

also, I like lists!

[Revenus]

has Mr. Parker even confirmed yet?

No posts from him is quite troubling.

Revenous, I don't need a list of reads, but your next post contain some sort of game content.

And can I suggest not giving mafia any info to help them? These "lists" of town to scum reads just gives mafia a better idea who to target and who to keep alive, plus they usually aren't useful. I'd rather the energy spent on making a case on 1 or 2 people.

That's all I got for now.

You're honestly asking me for reads when 95% of the posts when I made my vote were jokes and the other 5% were you and Pine bickering about a game that I have no intention of reading?

And how are lists of town bad? They also help town figure out the game.

[Revenus]

Also, we have like three people whose usernames start with "thea" so I'd like to establish "nicknames" for each person early on instead of refering to a name that could be construed as any one of 3 players.

[Revenus]

Also, before you guys start dumping on thamatuer, I just played a game with him. He is barely able to form coherent thoughts, attacks people based on emotion and dislike, and when attacked (as vanilla townie mind you) flails heavily. Not saying we shouldn't lynch him, but this is something for the good people of this game to consider.

[Slandaar]

I have not played with him before and am not going to take your opinion of his play from a different game into consideration when tryign to figure out his alignment.

why do you say 'you guys' when its literally just me ?

[Slandaar]

And how are lists of town bad? They also help town figure out the game.

THIS! lets not get into a huge debate about it though

[chkflip]

There are five players that haven't posted. If they don't make themselves known within the next 24 hours, I will be forced to

modkill the shit out of all of them

dredge through to find replacements.

[Revenus]

And how are lists of town bad? They also help town figure out the game.

THIS! lets not get into a huge debate about it though

Personal preference, but if Beck starts going like "NO WE CANT FOCUS ON OTHER PLAYERS BESIDES THE TWO TRAINS WE HAVE" i'm going to take issue with it.

[Beck]

Lists help who figure out the game?

If making a list helps you, fine make a list and keep it private, the whole world doesn't need to see it.

Your list isn't going to help me figure out who I think is town or not nor should somebody elses list help you decide.


And beck won't be doing anything of the sort, so no need to worry.

Back to post 63, I said I don't want a list of reads, not sure why you asked me that when I specifically said I didn't need that, I just wanted something other than joke posts to help me read you better

I don't like how you excuse theamateur's play when he hasn't even done anything like you suggest he will do.

[Revenus]

I'm not going to get into a list argument with you, but let's just say I tend to respect opinions of players who are on a similair wavelength as mine when I'm scumhunting, and if they provide good scumlists then I tend to consider those opinions more heavily; playing as town is a team game. If you want to be the town superstar who doesn't need anyone elses input, then go ahead.

And if it seems like I'm excusing theam's play; I'm not. It was bad last game. it derailed day one because it was just so easy for everyone to attack him, and it allowed scum to fit right in without having to contribute.

[theamatuer]

I'm not going to get into a list argument with you, but let's just say I tend to respect opinions of players who are on a similair wavelength as mine when I'm scumhunting, and if they provide good scumlists then I tend to consider those opinions more heavily; playing as town is a team game. If you want to be the town superstar who doesn't need anyone elses input, then go ahead.

And if it seems like I'm excusing theam's play; I'm not. It was bad last game. it derailed day one because it was just so easy for everyone to attack him, and it allowed scum to fit right in without having to contribute.

Well yes. That's why I plan on playing normally this game.
If anyone wants to do an meta-read, newbie 1136 is the only one thats over.

[Revenus]

We'll see if you hold up that promise.

[popsofctown]

explain policy lynch

go

Neruzian era mafia, post 1531.

Anyone else look this up? The post seemed to show little evidence of sorgster being a bad player. It had even less evidence of the player being unreadable, which is an important component of any good policy lynch. Failure to help out with scumhunting isn't good enough. Poor voting accuracy isn't good enough. A bad, but transparent player can be ignored when he makes crappy attacks, overruled by a wise town when he votes poor targets, and then lynched or not lynched based on his attempts at play. This is why DeityKabuto is a terrible policy lynch. I won Friends and Enemies mafia partly by explaining how DeityKabuto was a strong townread and urging the rest of the town not to mislynch him after my untimely, certain N1 death (I had daykilled scum )

I have context about zdenek's usual attitudes towards policy lynching, but this comes off as pretty weak, especially when he's invited to expound on why it's a good policy lynch and what good policy lynching is and instead he just gives a post number and then lurks the thread.

vote zdenek

for now.

And most of that spiel is for you folks to stop wasting time considering unwarranted policy lynching. Stop it. Unless you have a killa 7 for show and tell, it's time for old-fashioned scumhunting.