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Mini 197- Points Mafia; Game over!

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:36 pm
by armlx
No back story, sorry.

Rules

1. I can make mistakes. Let me know if I do and I will fix them.

2. From July 3rd to July 17th and August 12th to 20th Crola will be modding while I am out of town. Thanks you Crola!

3. General rules apply. If you don't know the game rules, PM me and I will explain them, though I think everyone here does. (No quoting PMs, no editing, and no being down right nasty are the big 3). The game starts at night.

4. Points Mafia:

To prevent hijinks with forcing people to state costs of abilities and other things, here is the listt.

10 pts - Doctor, Cop (finds alignment)
Crola Edit (approved by Armlx):
9 pts (origionally 10) - Immunity to
most
night kills
8 pts- Body Guard + 2 lives (Like a doctor, but you take the kill instead of stopping it), Vigilante
7 pts: Roleblocker, 2 lives, Ability Cop (finds abilities)
5 pts: Nightwatch (sees if someone left their house), Vote counts as two, Backup Cop, Backup Doctor, 1 shot vigilante
Gain points: Choose to take a disability (+1, 2, or 3, mod makes it up)
-Be voting for a member of the opposing team when they are lynched (+1)
-Correcting mod error (+1 or 2, no stupid things like spelling errors)

***Clarification #1: You must have the backup cop/doc ability when that person dies to receive their ability. If you buy the ability at night and the cop/doc dies that night, you get the ability as you would not have known if that person would die.***

Attempting to abuse the ability list to gain pseudo-investigations is a mod killable offense. Role or point claiming is ok, saying "Buy this ability and prove you did" isn't. Mafia has access to the same abilities as the town (and more) except the following ones: Vigilante (2 kill mafia = broken), and backup cop and doctor (stealing town roles = bad).

*** Mistake Number one (I caught this one myself, so no bonus for you):
You may only buy each ability once, and the mafia can only buy an ability once. No mafia Getting a bunch of extra vig kills or double role blocker townies.... ***


5. Abilities work like this.
Step 1: You have N points and want ability X, which costs less or equal to than N points. *** Mod mistake 2: For got "or equal to"***
Step 2: You PM me saying you want ability X and, if it is night, PM me your choice.
Step 3: I PM you with your remaining points and ability list.


Have fun, point out my mistakes, etc. Role will be out by 10PM EST on Monday, June 6th aka the day i posted this. You have 4 days to confirm, and any night choices not in by when I check next Monday will not be counted. Vote counts will be frequent.


Still Alive:
Coolbot- Town

Six Feet Under:
Mr. Stoofer - Town (Axed night 1)
Mlaker - Town (Lynched Day 1)
Someone - Town (Shot Night 2)
TradaPIB - Town (Lynched Day 2)
SpeedyKQ- Town (Shot Night 3)
Nai- Mafia (Minced Night 3)
Pheobus- Mafia (Lynched Day 3)
Thesp- Town (Blown Up Night 4)
Yggdrasil- Town (Lynched Day 5)
Meme- Mafia (Stabbed Night 5)
Stewie- SK (Shot Night 5)

***Mod Mistake 3: I forgot a player's list :( ***

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:16 am
by armlx
Mr. Stoofer sat in his chair late at night, rocking back and forth. This whole mafia business had him wound up to tightly he had trouble sleeping at times. Starting to nod off, he awoke with a start at the sound of floor board squeaking down the hall. Slowly, he got up and snuck down the hall to investigate. He didn't even see the man behind him or the hatchet that killed him.


Mr. Stoofer, Pro-town has been killed


Let Day 1 begin!

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:19 am
by MeMe
vote: Nai

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 4:46 am
by Mr Stoofer
Why me? :cry:

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:02 am
by CoolBot
vote: Phoebus

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:05 am
by Yggdrasil
vote: CoolBot

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:07 am
by mlaker
Sounds like an SK kill to me. This probably means someone got lucky with protection. I won't vote yet, I'll check for scum with my Scummometer Vision.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:14 am
by Someone
No, I'm not the doc ;).

But otherwise *agrees with mlaker*

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:09 am
by Stewie
I dont' get it. Why sk kill? It's just as likely - actually, even more likely - that it's a mafia kill. What part of the death scene makes you guys think it was a sk kill?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:01 pm
by mlaker
I think it was a SK kill because of the hatchet. Mafia kill scenes usually happen by pistol or machine gun/tommy gun. SK's usually kill with a knife or axe type weapon which leads me to believe that either:
1. There is no mafia (highly unlikely I believe)
2. The mafia had no choice last night
3. The doctor got lucky
You seem to think it was mafia so...probably the only way you;d know for certain is if you were mafia.
FOS Stewie

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:06 pm
by Nai
Sorry it took me so lon to post. I usually don't wake up this late. That's what I get for staying up all night...

As for Stewie, if he was mafia, why would he paint a target like this on himself (I've done it enough to my shame).

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:27 pm
by CoolBot
I don't really hink that we can assume that hatchet equals SK yet. I don't see any reason why mafia couldn't use one.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:52 pm
by Yggdrasil
As a general rule, I don't assume a second killer unless there are two kills in a night or some other good reason to believe so. The hatchet part to me is just flavor.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:03 pm
by MeMe
unvote: Nai
vote: mlaker


:? :P :o

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:10 pm
by Nai
I'd like to point out a few things that I noticed while re-reading the first few posts. Armlx told us that there were abilities that that Mafia couldn't buy, and I think that would include an SK. No sane townie would buy such an ability, as it would only help the mafia kill them faster. Mind, this doesn't mean that mlaker and Someone are scum, as mafia wouldn't make it seem that there's a bigger threat against the townies than usual.

However, I'm dropping an FOS on mlaker for a good reason. Armlx told us that there WOULD be mafia (opening post), and mlaker suggests that there isn't any? Even though he says it's a long shot, it's already known that there's mafia. It's rather odd to overlook such a fact.

FOS: mlaker

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:48 pm
by Someone
Guys...it's just speculation...

In fact, more speculation:

-Are roles revealed on death?
-Is the night-scene just flavour, or did Mr stoofer have a investigative role?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:52 am
by armlx
Sorry guys. I just want to clear up a few things.

The death scenes are just flavor.

Roles are not revealed upon death, only alignment.

Vote Count

Pheobus- 1 (Coolbot)
Mlaker- 1 (Meme)
Coolbot- 1 (Yggdrasil)

FOS Count

Stewie- 1 (Mlaker)
Mlaker- 1 (Nai)

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:25 am
by SpeedyKQ
Nai wrote:As for Stewie, if he was mafia, why would he paint a target like this on himself (I've done it enough to my shame).
What do you mean, paint a target? I'm not sure what you're talking about.

FOS mlaker
- mafia would know whether mafia's action was blocked. I'd rather not run anybody up this soon, though.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:22 am
by Phoebus
I don't have much to say at this time, but "buying an SK" sounds totally off in itself.
Either we have one or we don't and if we do, I'd assume they have the similar restriction of mafia not being able to buy everything.
The mod's using mafia, as opposed to randomly evil dudes, makes an SK moot in my opinion.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:30 am
by Someone
An SK moot? I'd be willing to admit that the front post isn't necessarily an SK, but going all the way to saying having an SK is impossible?

You obviously wouldn't "buy an SK", since all the possibilities of purchases are in the front post, but what prevents them from being in the game, along with the mafia?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:14 pm
by Stewie
mlaker wrote: You seem to think it was mafia so...probably the only way you;d know for certain is if you were mafia.
FOS Stewie
No, I think that there's nothing that leads me to believe that it was a sk kill and not a mafia kill, therefore you must know something I don't. The hatchet thing explains it fairly well, but you still sound like you are almost sure, when it's actually a thing that could go either way. It's slightly more likely that it was a sk kill, but not enough to say that someone probably got lucky with doc protection.

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:55 pm
by Nai
What I meant by the "paint a target" is that, by saying this, he's making a target of himself. He's making himself look suspicious. No good mafia would do that as it gets people looking at them.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:31 am
by mlaker
All I was saying was that when cutlery is used it's most often an SK kill. I thought that was pretty common knowledge. Apparently it wasn't as obvious to you.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:50 am
by MeMe
FOS: Thesp
FOS: TradaPIB


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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:48 pm
by Thesp
Computer is up and going now so I can finally get posting yay
I dont think we can rule out the possibility of an SK but I don't think we can have any idea until a double kill night
I dont see anything wrong with mlakers speculation of the nightscene and im not sure what hed have to gain by making such speculation if he were scum
My hunch right now is with SpeedyKQ as being scum
Vote SpeedyKQ