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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:15 pm

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The quickhammer did it for me - after that there was no doubt.
Prior to that it could have been debated.
My perception.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:15 pm

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In post 1796, Thor665 wrote:I'll honestly admit - I would not have guessed Soul/N.


I'm just glad this game is over.

OS: Pretty sure his quickhammer on me sealed the deal.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:17 pm

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i don't get the hammer. yes they had 2 players very strongly convinced they were scum but vm was probably the lynch. so eh the quickhammer felt a tactically poor play. at the very least n and soul could have used some more towncred from lynching you normally.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:17 pm

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The ability of friends to confirm each other based on past games in the beginning hurt a lot. Like the Cerulean+JT combo that left a really solid town block of 4! People that could sway a lot of things.

I did think the hammer was quite Chicken Little but oh well
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:18 pm

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In post 1827, Justin Timberlake wrote:i don't get the hammer. yes they had 2 players very strongly convinced they were scum but vm was probably the lynch. so eh the quickhammer felt a tactically poor play. at the very least n and soul could have used some more towncred from lynching you normally.

Agreed.
Thor was even defending him (though actually I liked that posted case quite a bit) and then *bam* scum claim, Day 1...for the glory of lynching Voided...
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:19 pm

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In post 1817, Justin Timberlake wrote:
In post 1816, callforjudgement wrote:although there were some dubious ones as well
lmao slimer
Huh, no? It's totally Faraday who is the sucky one.

Well played, and congrats, Town. Challenging games are a delight to see and be a part of. While we definitely had issues with the quality of the replacements, this does not take away from good play. Sorry for the f(l)ail, Oversoul/Mehdi/N. You held on to your end of the rope quite well.


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actually decided by both of us; I was online at the time. We thought we didn't have much of a way out and shoved one lynch of four in while we could, especially to try and cut connections that could catch the whole team later in the game.


And this game got me a new hydra partner, so that's something. ^_^
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:21 pm

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CFJ, thanks for modding. It was a great game.

Regarding the setup, I get what you are saying about the playerlist getting better as opposed to worse. To town, it was beneficial because town were able to follow the lead of Cerulean and JT and scum were powerless to stop them. I still think if I were scum, it would have ridiculously hard to get away with no nightkills. For instance, if Cerulean suspected anyone, there would have been literally no way to worm out of it considering they were near confirmed.

On the flip side, playing with good players was great. Empire and Regfan in particular provided very good analysis and set the bar high. I am impressed.

Also, I don't understand why replacements were in an issue in this game. Anyone care to elaborate?
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:21 pm

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I said it in the scum qt, but I think it's hilarious that Thor always reads me as scum and then, when I actually am scum, decides that I'm town.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:22 pm

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I'd really like to give props to Mehdi for my abysmal play and activity. A LOT of shit happened in my life during this game and while I expected to have a fair amount of business I was not expecting nearly the amount of work and crap I would have to deal with.

I think if I had been around earlier I would have lost some of my towncred from the walls I did, but potentially weakened the towncred of others.

I had a few fairly dubious meta things to get Thor and Piggy with but never got the chance due to time constraints that made those opinions seem untimely and awkward in my opinion.

Yet again I loved playing with Mehdi and I am happy I was able to hydra with him. If you all get the chance, play with him again. It really is fun lol.

Thor, your sense of humor gets me. I do like playing with you even though I think I'm Reading a different language.

Reg+Faraday, yes that was fake rage. :p I was not mad at you two other than the "Not again...." annoyance factor.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:24 pm

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Tierce+Vi

Nothing ever goes right for us when we all play together lmao.

I finally understand why it is called Sixty thoufh
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:26 pm

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In post 1831, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, I don't understand why replacements were in an issue in this game. Anyone care to elaborate?

presumably they were hard on scum? *shrug* it happens. this type of game will attract good replacements anyway, it's just impossible to deal with them in nightless
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:27 pm

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In post 1834, Oversoul wrote:I finally understand why it is called Sixty thoufh
Noticed Vi's QT name, did you?~
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:28 pm

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In post 1831, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Regarding the setup, I get what you are saying about the playerlist getting better as opposed to worse. To town, it was beneficial because town were able to follow the lead of Cerulean and JT and scum were powerless to stop them. I still think if I were scum, it would have ridiculously hard to get away with no nightkills. For instance, if Cerulean suspected anyone, there would have been literally no way to worm out of it considering they were near confirmed.

I think I realised this too late. Early on, both were looking at lynching Jesse, so I was happy to let them be obvtown. But as that last day went on, I was trying to discredit JT and was going to push a Deadpool/JT scumteam on the last day if we'd managed to lynch Jesse.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:29 pm

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In post 1835, Justin Timberlake wrote:
In post 1831, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Also, I don't understand why replacements were in an issue in this game. Anyone care to elaborate?

presumably they were hard on scum? *shrug* it happens. this type of game will attract good replacements anyway, it's just impossible to deal with them in nightless


Oh, now I get it. Equinox was scummy but you guys completely turned that slot around and proceeded to lead the game. I can imagine scum would be mad about it. But this goes back to the point about nightless games being town-sided. But then Equinox seems like a very good player too. I assume he was just having an off game.
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:30 pm

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I felt like Equinox was playing to her town meta based off my experience with her in Micro 53 *shrug*
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:30 pm

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F16, it was just that SAD + Tammy + Faraday all had connections from their other mafia site that allowed each other to know reliably what the other is like. Any uncertainty about Faraday was counteracted by Reg + Empire essentially having that same type of reliability.

It was incredibly hard to edge ourselves into that Town spot while also getting the 3 mislynches we needed especially when you throw in other good players like Thor.

I said this somewhere I forget, but for the sake of the game, I am goin to have to think twice about entering when I see those names all together again. :p

Pedit: no. I still don't get the QT name other than a play on Mi6?
I thought it was because V + I = six in roman numerals and well,.. You have a T in your name lmao.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:31 pm

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well i could have just like tried to be town if I was on my own anyway
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:31 pm

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By the way, Tammy and I's hydra QT was named "Henry Rollins Appreciation Club." Props to you if you get the reference.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:32 pm

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In post 1838, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Oh, now I get it. Equinox was scummy but you guys completely turned that slot around and proceeded to lead the game. I can imagine scum would be mad about it. But this goes back to the point about nightless games being town-sided. But then Equinox seems like a very good player too. I assume he was just having an off game.

*she and probably would have been super townish if not busy, yeah
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:33 pm

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we did suspect she was town admittedly like 80% sure but i made comments to regfan saying how she'd fit with x and y as scum to make him paranoid
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:34 pm

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In post 1842, Empire wrote:By the way, Tammy and I's hydra QT was named "Henry Rollins Appreciation Club." Props to you if you get the reference.

http://quicktopic.com/48/H/hZp8puWtHWn our qt got a lot of use
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:36 pm

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Equinox is good too. Pretty much the Ponie People are all good.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:38 pm

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Yeah, thors near dismissal of the way you answered my questions, and it not making him read you more scummy, really had me thinking you guys were partners. (I was still nursing some secret paranoia of a deadpool/Thor team from the way that Arthur was like Thor so town/he might be scum thing). So I was like lynch Thor that will be win-win.

I was wrong about that though sorry:(

Empire it was great fun hydraing with you and I hope we can do it again!

This game was a lot of fun and I'm so glad we won it in the end. My head was going to explode if we lost after having gotten it right with sixty right away.

I had a great time playing with all of you, and thanks cfj for running it!
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:39 pm

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Tbh Tammy I thought I was playing a scum game in the beginning.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:39 pm

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I even told F-16 as much.
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