Mini 1402: Low Budget Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:28 am

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Human Destroyer: Jun, 2birds1stone, girth, Rainbowdash (L-0)

DeasVail: Human Destroyer (L-3)

Not voting: DeasVail

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:32 am

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Human Destroyer,
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, lynched Day Five

Night will end in (expired on 2013-02-11 11:32:17). Get your night actions to me and Klick by then.
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:54 pm

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Both night-actors were okay with it ending early, so I'm doing it.


DeasVail,
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:00 pm

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Oh I roleblocked the wrong one! D:

Anyway, well done to RBD and 2b1s, especially considering the town power and having a traitor.

Sorry to town for stuffing it up. :(
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:02 pm

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2b1s getting tracked helped us quite a bit. Gave me the cards I needed to play to defend him.

Interestingly enough I got Dan lynched thinking DV was the traitor because a JOAT seemed too overpowered since it would have abilities that get magnified when there are less scum.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:11 pm

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Nice gg =)
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 6:15 pm

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That was a really tight game.

Mad props to RBD; while I don't feel I played a bad game, I certainly wouldn't have been able to pull a win through without her.

Just wanna make it clear (if Rev is still reading this) that I never actually bore him any animosity; I was actually really impressed that he picked me as scum at a time where at least three players had me as obv-town.

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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:34 pm

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I was half right, I probably should have pushed harder on the other points I had at certain stages, but that's hard when 2birds was lurking away my pressure.
(plus I still suck at actually pushing cases).
Though RBD's play was weird and I just couldn't do anything about it, probably would have lynched if I'd been in 3p LYLO with him.
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:18 pm

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I am still reading. Deserved victory by scum imo.
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:03 pm

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GG everyone!

RBD - thought so.

2 power roles were scum!

Mafia seemed underpowered - how did the traitor and rolecop relate to the rest of the scum team? could the results go back to the rest of the team?
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:14 am

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Dave168 wrote:GG everyone!

RBD - thought so.

2 power roles were scum!

Mafia seemed underpowered - how did the traitor and rolecop relate to the rest of the scum team? could the results go back to the rest of the team?
Yeah, can we have that Traitor role PM now?
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:10 am

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yeah well played scumteam, especially RBD and I agree the tracker clear on 2Birds was probably the crux that swung the game in favour of them. I always had a scumread of varying strength on 2Birds but the game theory put forward by RBD against his lynch was like super solid

I think HD's refusal to consider my point about how DV couldnt be scum sealed his and town's fate, my logic there was sound and was dismissed out of hand and really seemed like scum clutching at straws... ovrerall I think I did relatively ok and have identified what's probably a significant weakness in my game: being too easily swayed by players who are skilled rhetorically
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:36 am

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I'd say the reason scum won is cause they shot the one smart player night one

Rbd was soooo obvscum especially after he pulled that whole 'everyone target me' bull and 'everyone except me claim '
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:38 am

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also until dan's flip i thought it was a jun rbd 2birds team; aka wtf jun
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:26 am

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In post 2084, Dave168 wrote:Mafia seemed underpowered - how did the traitor and rolecop relate to the rest of the scum team? could the results go back to the rest of the team?


Dropping RB in the JOAT for something else and I think it would have been completely fine.

Tracker + BG vs two scum w/encryptor is balanced enough as the encryptor is stronger than most will give it credit for.

Making it Doc+RB+Cop though when the next scum is going to be weaker than a goon (traitors rarely get recruited and even if it happened they would need to have their results) just throws off some balance. Especially when there are suddenly two roles (RB+track) who are exceedingly strong as scum numbers dwindel.

girth wrote:yeah well played scumteam, especially RBD and I agree the tracker clear on 2Birds was probably the crux that swung the game in favour of them. I always had a scumread of varying strength on 2Birds but the game theory put forward by RBD against his lynch was like super solid


Its easy to argue that type of game theory when its 100% correct. A tracker "went nowhere" is a towntell, it just benifited me to argue it quite a bit more than usual given that 2b1s was scum. Also you guys really really should have No Lynched that last day, would have made the game much harder for us since there was no good kill.
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:35 am

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I had no idea who the scum team were. So I just played like I would a VT... up until I claimed cop. It was a gamble, but I think it might have helped scum out a bit.
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:36 am

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Also, in my opinion the game was slightly town sided. But still fun, GG all.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:39 am

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In post 2087, Revenus wrote:Rbd was soooo obvscum especially after he pulled that whole 'everyone target me' bull and 'everyone except me claim '


At that point I thought RBD was scum, which is why I wanted to go along with her plan, up until she got me lynched... :P
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:13 am

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I was completely shocked beyond belief to see HD flip VT. It just was such a certainty that he would flip scum.

What is an encryptor?

And what happened to klick ?
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:16 am

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An encryptor just allows for scum daytalk; mason encryptors exist as well IIRC.

Bleh town kinda got steamrolled which was partially my fault but whatever it's over now
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:49 am

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In post 2090, Dannflor wrote:I had no idea who the scum team were.


Yeah then this was definantly town sided.

Normal Traitor+Goon+Encrypt vs JOAT+Track+BG is close enough, handicapping the traitor and bolstering the JOAT is just going to make it offcenter.

2b1s can post the QT if he wants.
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:35 am

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I don't think this game was townsided at all.

Every time I lose, the winning team says it was sided for my team and I just don't see that.

I think this was an even setup, with just plain better play coming from the scum
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:00 pm

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What was in the JOAT?
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:01 pm

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I think DV said it was RB/Cop/Doc
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:02 pm

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In post 2093, Jun wrote:I was completely shocked beyond belief to see HD flip VT. It just was such a certainty that he would flip scum.

HD was 100% town! How did you not see this? I could tell just from reading on the sidelines.

Seriously, was it a good idea to replace out, or should I have stuck around and got lynched sooner?

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