Civilization Mafia - Town Wins!

[Akonas]

Well, we definitely want to lynch a scum of the larger group, InHim. This is why we are not lynching anyone we know is scum simply because we know they are scum. And I believe you to be such.

[d_rouge]

Is the deadline already passed? I have a hard time translating the time from GMT to american time zones.

Anyway, hoping there's still time.

unvote Yosarian, vote: Inhim

[d_rouge]

Oh, and I can bet on Yosarian and Kelly Chen being the last two scum.

[Astronaut]

You're wrong, d_rouge. I got Kelly guily the same night I got inHim guilty.

[Astronaut]

The same night as I got inHim innocent, that is.

[inHimshallibe]

Wow... ignorance run amok.

[Kelly Chen]

Oh, and I can bet on Yosarian and Kelly Chen being the last two scum.

Since when are you betting that I'm scum?

I get a pretty bad feeling from that post.

And this:

Is the deadline already passed? I have a hard time translating the time from GMT to american time zones.

Anyway, hoping there's still time.
unvote Yosarian, vote: Inhim

That makes it sound like you don't actually want Yosarian lynched... inHim was going to be the lynch anyway, unless someone took their vote off. I'm not sure what to make of that.

[Thesp]

This post has been edited, please see the next post.

[Thesp]

As has been pointed out to me by a number of people, I have no sense of time. inHimshallIbe has indeed received the requisite number of votes in time.

inHimshallibe was lynched.

Gilgamesh of the Sumerians has been destroyed!

It is now Night 7. Please send in Night actions as soon as possible. Thanks.

[Thesp]

[End of turn, Press Spacebar to Continue]

*presses*

Sire, the Iriquois have been destroyed!
Sire, the Goths have been destroyed!
Sire, the Scythians have been destroyed!

Wow.

Astronaut (Hiawatha, of the Iriquois) has been destroyed.
d_rouge (Theodoric, of the Goths) has been destroyed.
Kelly Chen (Targitaus, of the Scythians) has been destroyed.

It's Day 7. With 2 alive, it's 2 to lynch.

(In the ever-so-conceivable event neither player agrees to be lynched, night will commence when No Lynch has been voted, or whenever a week has passed whichever is first.)

[Kelly Chen]

bah, go town

*dies*

[Akonas]

Vote: Yosarian2

.

You're obviously scum.

[Yosarian2]

Um,

vote:akonas

Some impressive deductive reasoning skills you've got there, chap.

[Akonas]

Haha. Thanks. Why don't we cut the crap and

Vote: No Lynch

?

[Yosarian2]

Sure.

vote:no lynch

[Thesp]

And with that...

Night 8 begins. Please send in your nightchoices. Thanks!

[Thesp]

Sire, we have detected a massive barbarian uprising near Zimbabwe.
Bombardment successful! Enemy units have been damaged.
Our Impi defeated Warrior.

Excellent news, sire! We have destroyed the Piye of the Nubians, the last barbaric threat in the world!

Your civilization has entered a great golden age!

Yosarian2, Piye of the Nubians, has been destroyed.

The world is free from the threats of barbaric forces, and the civilized tribes have won!

Notes posted shortly.

[Thesp]

Wow, what a long game. Thanks to everyone who stayed in until the end. I'm attaching the notes to this message. They may need deciphering, but understand that red means failed, blue means succeeded. I pieced it together from what was left for me by SinisterOverlord.

The mafia had serious disadvantages this game, from not having safe claims to not having units and not having the list of units until later and so on and so forth. They were helped by creating numerous mislynches and few cross-kills until the end. d_rouge in particular did very well to claim an investigation and correctly lynch a player.

Text Notes
Unit Notes

I'll be happy to answer questions. I'm intrigued by the game design, and think it needs some serious tweaks still before a similar one is run, but glad to see it go.

[Yosarian2]

Good game, all.

Yeah...I do think the game was weighed pretty heavily against the mafia. The worst was the way that it was very unlikely for the mafia to win an endgame against town players with rolelbockers and vig units. As it turned out, I only had a, what, 1/5 chance of killing Akronas on the last night? And the way the town players got stronger every night, I think that may have been inevitable.

[Kelly Chen]

Drat, we were so close.

I was scum guys.

[d_rouge]

Just some thoughts copy/pasted directly from a discussion with Mr Flay after my death.
So, was it Akonas that vigged me?

On the last day it was clear to me, after Astro's claim, that Yosarian and Tyfo/Kelly Chen were the two other scum. If I had not claimed Inhim's Civ I would have probably managed to get Akonas lynched without too much trouble. I dunno what the roleblocker action would have been afterwards, but I would have killed Kelly Chen or Yosarian for sure.

After Inhim's claim, once it was apparent that one between me and him was lying, I had to change strategy. My main concern was the effectiveness of the roleblocking ability: I tried to gather some info about that with my question about the unit/city target, but didn't succeed. Even Yosarian comments after that were not enough.
If he could really roleblock two persons, one of them would have been me for sure, so I couldn't allow to let him live. On the other side, if the bombard ability didn't affect the mafia kill, I could have pushed more towards Yosarian, in order to start the night with 1 scum in each group.

Should I have let the day go with no lynch?
My reasoning was that, since I announced clearly that I knew Yos and Kelly Chen were scum before the fall of the night, they couldn't kill me otherwise on the last day there would have been two town against Yosarian and would have lynched him almost for sure.
I played for the draw, that is a last day with 1 scum of each group and 1 town so that nobody could effectively kill anybody else (I dunno what the mod would have done in such a situation).

Unfortunately, there were 3 kills last night, that means that someone used a vigging unit, so that screwed everything up.

Sorry if I bored you, just wanted to share my thoughts on the endgame.

[Thesp]

Just some thoughts copy/pasted directly from a discussion with Mr Flay after my death.
So, was it Akonas that vigged me?

Yes.

[Akonas]

whooooooo!!! Town wins! Who da man!

gg all.

[Yosarian2]

Yeah...I knew you were scum and figured you were going to kill one of us, rouge. That was why I figured we had to kill astro; I knew in a 1 scum 2 town endgame, the scum was doomed.

If you didn't kill InHim, the town would have won for sure; the ability to roleblock two people a night was just insane. The way it happened, the scum at least had a chance, albiet a fairly small chance.

[Thok]

Go town, although I'll admit we did play badly.

What was up with Puzzle's innocent investigation on Yosarian2?