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[Mgm]

I'm of the opinion that the SK has posted already.

How did you come to that conclusion?

[Mirth]

MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?

[Kinetic]

However, I think this kill blew up in his face. Since he killed a mafia he now has to target townies or else he could end the game prematurely if town lynches a mafia and gets a scent...

I don't quite get this. Can you rephrase?

4 Mafia
1 Daykilling SK(can kill once per "day" or week)(If a week in time has passed since the last SK kill, he may kill again, if a lynch has occured since the last SK kill, he may kill again)
7 Townies

The SK only wins if he is the last person standing and neither team achieves their win condition. So if the SK kills a Mafia, there is only 3 left. If he keeps killing them, or if the town starts lynching them, the game could end quickly in a town victory and an SK loss.

The SK would have given himself better odds by killing a townie at this point in the game. By killing a mafia he basically speeds up the possibility that if town finds another mafia he could be in a very bad position very fast.

I'm of the opinion that the SK has posted already.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Again, more of just a hunch. Pooky isn't able to check the thread very much which makes me believe that the SK sent in his kill a little while ago but he just got it. Just a hunch, I admit, but a good one I think.

[Mgm]

MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?

I mentioned him as a possible suspect and since the first suspect I mentioned died, I had an unused vote lying around. I might as well place it somewhere and since my hunch on d3sisted was correct, I might as well continue to trust my hunches for the time being.

The SK only wins if he is the last person standing and neither team achieves their win condition. So if the SK kills a Mafia, there is only 3 left. If he keeps killing them, or if the town starts lynching them, the game could end quickly in a town victory and an SK loss.

Even with all the mafia killed, the SK can still pull off a win. Dead mafia doesn't necessarily equate to a town win.

I think it's in the SK's best interest to lynch mafia to avoid being the victim of some scum-guided lynch. It's in the mafia's best interest to get us to vote the SK. Because every week the SK is alive, they run the risk of being killed and getting one step further away from winning - as d3sisted's dead so nicely demonstrates.

Also, by killing townies, the SK brings the mafia closer to a win (with the whole outnumbering rule. In short: they should kill each other off and only worry about the townies at the last possible minute.

[Mgm]

I'm of the opinion that the SK has posted already.

How did you come to that conclusion?

Again, more of just a hunch. Pooky isn't able to check the thread very much which makes me believe that the SK sent in his kill a little while ago but he just got it. Just a hunch, I admit, but a good one I think.

I have another hunch. I think the SK didn't post and tries to look like they were away when the choice was made. I've already got my eyes on the late players.

[Mirth]

MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?

I mentioned him as a possible suspect and since the first suspect I mentioned died, I had an unused vote lying around. I might as well place it somewhere and since my hunch on d3sisted was correct, I might as well continue to trust my hunches for the time being.

Unvote: Kinetic

Vote: MGM

We are on page two. None of us have said very much yet, and all the votes up to this point have been random. We are all possible suspects. Why does he merit special attention here? He had a whole two posts when you first mentioned him as a "possible suspect." Your vote on d3sisted seemed to be a joking random vote which just happened to get lucky, as he hadn't posted anything when you voted for him. Then he voted for you. I'm weary of "hunches" that are formed without anything to back them up.

[Mirth]

EBWOP^

Vote: MGM

[deepsouth]

Sorry I'm late. I had a busy weekend and wasn't able to play much. Friday, was the last day I checked to see if the game had started.

FOS: curiouskarmadog

for saying that the serial killer hasn't posted yet. I think ckd might be the SK.

vote: Raffles

for not posting yet.

[heatherlou]

I'd be inclined to think the SK hasn't posted yet either, that they saw the game started and sent in their kill. I don't think they wanna post because I don't think they wanna be questioned, even on a random vote, or get pressured too much in the case of posts after the SK kill.

unvote, vote: m4yhem

[curiouskarmadog]

2 questions and a thought:

Curiouskarmadog (do you have any preffered short version of your name?) why did you change your vote to deepsouth?

people usually go with CKD..

thougth I stated it..pressure vote on lurkers, she/he was the first one on the list.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sorry I'm late. I had a busy weekend and wasn't able to play much. Friday, was the last day I checked to see if the game had started.

FOS: curiouskarmadog

for saying that the serial killer hasn't posted yet. I think ckd might be the SK.

vote: Raffles

for not posting yet.

sort of a silly post isnt it? You think that the SK has posted? How often?

Why did you pick Raffles over HazzelQ?

[Stewie]

Sorry I'm late. I had a busy weekend and wasn't able to play much. Friday, was the last day I checked to see if the game had started.

FOS: curiouskarmadog

for saying that the serial killer hasn't posted yet. I think ckd might be the SK.

vote: Raffles

for not posting yet.

sort of a silly post isnt it? You think that the SK has posted? How often?

Why did you pick Raffles over HazzelQ?

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

[Mgm]

MGM you mentioned the dangers of dogs before the kill was announced. So do you have any after kill explanation for your vote?

I mentioned him as a possible suspect and since the first suspect I mentioned died, I had an unused vote lying around. I might as well place it somewhere and since my hunch on d3sisted was correct, I might as well continue to trust my hunches for the time being.

Unvote: Kinetic

Vote: MGM

We are on page two. None of us have said very much yet, and all the votes up to this point have been random. We are all possible suspects. Why does he merit special attention here? He had a whole two posts when you first mentioned him as a "possible suspect." Your vote on d3sisted seemed to be a joking random vote which just happened to get lucky, as he hadn't posted anything when you voted for him. Then he voted for you. I'm weary of "hunches" that are formed without anything to back them up.

It should be pretty clear that my vote was random/arbitrary too. I didn't say the vote was based on a hunch. My hunch was about whether the SK posted.

[curiouskarmadog]

Sorry I'm late. I had a busy weekend and wasn't able to play much. Friday, was the last day I checked to see if the game had started.

FOS: curiouskarmadog

for saying that the serial killer hasn't posted yet. I think ckd might be the SK.

vote: Raffles

for not posting yet.

sort of a silly post isnt it? You think that the SK has posted? How often?

Why did you pick Raffles over HazzelQ?

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

questions were not for you, this one is though,

why did you feel the need to answer them?

[Mgm]

Why did you feel the need to ask that question?

[curiouskarmadog]

Why did you feel the need to ask that question?

which one?

comment on questions in general: We are in Day 1, all questions (even apparent irrelevant ones) a.) provide information for the town and b.) gets the town talking.

I found it curious that Stewie decided to answer a question that wasn’t even directed toward him. What provoked him to do so? I asked deepsouth why he picked Raffles over HazzelQ…both have been inactive so far, so what was his method? If it was random, that is fine…but I wanted to hear it from deepsouth, not Stewie.

So question: Stewie what provoked you to answer a question that wasn’t directed to you?

Also..since deepsouth has posted…

Unvote: deepsouth

Vote: HazzelQ

…I have noted that HazzelQ has been posting in other threads, not this one yet…so again a pressure vote to get you talking.

[Mgm]

which one?

This one: "Why did you pick Raffles over HazzelQ?"

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I think I answered your question, but will again..

I wanted to know his method..

[Mgm]

So what's your method for picking someone to pressure?

[Stewie]

So question: Stewie what provoked you to answer a question that wasn’t directed to you?

I already explained why I answered it when I answered it. The only possible answer is that the chose randomly/arbitrarily, since he has no other information to base his vote on (or if he does, he's not gonna tell you). Can you really think of any other method of picking who to vote between two people who haven't posted yet?

[curiouskarmadog]

So what's your method for picking someone to pressure?

please read my posts...both of my posts state why (and how I chose) my votes.

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

Um, you did not answer my question. I asked you why you answered a question that was directed to deepsouth (ie not you)…

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

How do you know it was random? Maybe he metagamed. (if you metagamed, you would find one of them is active the other is not) Maybe he has a grudge from a previous game…who knows….but now it is moot because you took it upon yourself to answer it for him.

Again, why did you feel it necessary to answer a question that was not directed to you?

[Mgm]

I have noted that HazzelQ has been posting in other threads, not this one yet…so again a pressure vote to get you talking.

So did Raffles. He posted extensively in Carthage mafia on Saturday. He could've posted here.

[Stewie]

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

(1)Um, you did not answer my question. I asked you why you answered a question that was directed to deepsouth (ie not you)…

I'm not going to answer the first two questions, but the last one is kinda silly. He can't vote for both, so he has to pick one over the other. Since neither of them posted, it's pretty obvious that he just picked one arbitrarily.

(2)How do you know it was random? (3)Maybe he metagamed. (if you metagamed, you would find one of them is active the other is not) (4)Maybe he has a grudge from a previous game…who knows….but now it is moot because you took it upon yourself to answer it for him.

(1) I did. It was a stupid question that was going nowhere, so I figure I could answer it and focus on the other two questions.
(2)I don't. I said it could also be arbitrary.
(3) and (4) that's arbitrary.

[curiouskarmadog]

I have noted that HazzelQ has been posting in other threads, not this one yet…so again a pressure vote to get you talking.

So did Raffles. He posted extensively in Carthage mafia on Saturday. He could've posted here.

since you metagamed I am sure you noted that Raffles has stated he/she will be on vacation until the 15th..

and that HazzelQ actually posted this morning (and posted on Sunday)...