Open 43 - C9+2 GAME OVER before 499

[ryan]

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There's two games where the scum were outed VERY early in the game. I'm not saying this happens all the time but for you to openly suggest scum DON'T do it is not correct.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Wow. That's retarded, ryan. THOSE WERE NEWBIE GAMES. THIS IS NOT A NEWBIE GAME. Most newbie games span about 3 game-days in 8-12 pages, so any scum that is lynched D1 has usually outed themselves early. However, the newbie setup is small and doesn't apply here. There are more protown people, and it's inherently easier for the scum to hide. It doesn't take a lot of skill to not do something stupid, and I could still link you to 200 games where scum weren't outed in the first 3 pages. Want me to? Shit, I could do 300 if you could find another one. Just let me know, and I'll do it.

[ryan]

I stated, "games" and those were games, calm down a little bit there chief. Are you this much of an ass in all your games or just this one? I'm more than happy seeing you lynched on Day 1 and it would take quite a bit now for me to change my vote. Die scum.

[Mastermind of Sin]

k. Have fun trying to lynch me. You haven't even presented an argument for me to be scum yet. Good luck with that.

[ryan]

Well since we're past your "magical three page limit" I'm sure you'll say something stupid and implicate yourself.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Oh, but all the scum are obviously too experienced to mess up, right? Win-win argument for you, eh?

[ryan]

Oh, but all the scum are obviously too experienced to mess up, right? Win-win argument for you, eh?

Why are you still arguing? Boy a vote by me basically set you off on a tirade, talk about a nice way to start the day. Finding scum and watching him sweat on ONE vote, that's pretty funny MoS, thanks.

[Mastermind of Sin]

k me

[Setael]

Post 77:

It seems that Mafia is rather experienced because they have yet to make a noticeable mistakes. I looked through all of the posts, but nothing has popped up yet.

Prime example of something to be said when you are scum needing an excuse to not create a scum list or say anything that might come back to haunt you. Townies are much more willing to point out any little thing they notice.

I don't think that post was worthy of an FOS. Consequently, MoS, your jumping the gun and trying to point out others faults. You did the same with CA, but left out the FOS.

Pointing out others' faults is hardly jumping the gun - it's the only way to scum hunt.

Fernando you seem a little too defensive with your last post. something I think is ungrounded. You FOS'ed me for voting for you when I did the exact opposite. I didn't think that your post was guilt ridden but people jumped on you. Consequently, they seemed suspicious. Your Paranoia seems scummy.

A bit of a contradiction here, since I believe this is Tyler pointing out Fernando's faults...

FOS: Fernando
Vote: MoS

Post 95:

My apologies MoS. You never did FOS anyone. Perhaps you are right and things do take longer here. After all, this is my first game on this specific site.

I still think your are jumping the gun by pointing fingers and making accusations. So as of now, my vote remains.

I will ask though, please be a little less hostile. And if the same can be asked about me, then ask.

This seems like an attempt at peacemaking that he would more likely be motivated to make as scum. A Townie would not care so much to stay in MoS' good graces.

Post 96:

perhaps this will strengthen your opinion of my Newbie status MoS. What is WIFOM.

When I didn't know what WIFOM was, I looked it up instead of using it as a way to get people to not suspect me.

So anyway. I think Tyler's trying a little too hard to avoid suspicion.

vote: TylerJ

[TylerJ]

WOW!

Setael you've lost it. My first post was down right honest. Take it as you see it. Don't try looking for hidden messages when their aren't any.

Your second point: I've been pointing out others faults, but on the same time I take a while before I consider someone as guilty. On the other hand MoS is pointing out peoples faults AND consider them mafia without enough info. He IS jumping the gun.

Your third point: That post was replying to another post of mine that didn't point out fernandos faults. Yet his response was to defend against no accusation. Then I pointed out what he had done? Your third point is confusing. Seriously, I don't see a contradiction.

Your fourth point: you said a townie would not care so much to stay in MoS' good graces. This isn't fact, but opinion. An opinion that I know as false. It is not specifically MoS that I try to have peace with, but everyone. I'm sick of arguments. This is a game, nothing more. And if it's only a game, why argue?

Your Fifth opinion: I didn't ask what WIFOM was so that people wouldn't suspect me. How would me not knowing that make people think I'm innocent?

Setael, O can see two ways you came up with this. Your trying too hard to see something that isn't their because you want someone to suspect. Or you are the mafia and are trying to come up with something that is concrete.

MoS a little less cockyness please.

Anyway, back to my question. What is WIFOM?

[Mastermind of Sin]

NO U.

[TylerJ]

what?

[DeathSauce]

WIFOM

[TylerJ]

thank you deathsauce.

[Mastermind of Sin]

TylerJ, you should check out the rest of the wiki, it's got a lot of useful stuff, like Jeep's Tells.

[FeRnAnDo]

sorry Tylerj, i must have misread, i was like "what's he talking about? did i FOS him?' just checked and realized that i said Tylerj instead of Setael, whom together with DS jumped on me at the first oportunity, while Tylerj defended me. No, i'm no taking drugs. So i'll

UnFOS: tylerj and FOS: Setael

, for his past and current actions (i'll make a nice post about it later, because i'm at university now).

[Setael]

while Tylerj defended me

I'll keep that in mind.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Wow. TylerJ just asked why we should argue in this game...Tyler, this is a game

that is built around the concept of arguing

. The whole point of this game is that we should argue over our suspicions until we kill someone. Do some night stuff and repeat.

[TylerJ]

Setael and MoS, what is it with you two. You twist around everything I say.

Setael, again you are seeing something that is not there. If there was something, then me and Fernando wouldn't have FOS'ed each other.

MoS. There is a difference between debating and arguing. Debating is constructive and arguing is destructive. When you were arguing about the three page mistake thing you had already stated everything you needed to, but didn't stop because you wanted to have the last word. That is destructive and leads people away from catching scum.

Why don't you two take a hit at journaling and politics.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Arguing is good for getting leads on players.

[ChocolateAttack]

Arguing is good for getting leads on players.

arguing is heated discussion, i am more lean toward debating and yes, MoS seem to twist thing around.

[thinktank]

I'm glad to see this game is going somewhere /end sarcasm. For the last week, we've just been going in a circle...accusations followed by justification followed by accusations at the opposite party..

[TylerJ]

that is how it usually goes.

[DeathSauce]

If there was something, then me and Fernando wouldn't have FOS'ed each other.

You think scum don't FOS each other? It happens all the time. In fact it would be pretty stupid scum not to do it at least once.

I'm happy with my vote on Fernando

[TylerJ]

You think scum don't FOS each other? It happens all the time. In fact it would be pretty stupid scum not to do it at least once.

I'm happy with my vote on Fernando

True, that is a legitamate argue. I've FOS'ed my own partners before. Yet in the past I have never been so upfront about my FOS'es because I don't want others to start FOS'ing my partner. I personally would not be too hostile against my partner for that reason alone.