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[BlueBloodedToffee]

Case looks half decent from Sthar.

Will get around to this later today.

[Soren]

I'll respond to his "case" In a few hours.

[Vilewhirl]

you get 24 hours and then i start voting for you.
k?
incentive.

[Soren]

- On day 3, we had 9 players alive. 3 scum, 6 town. Four of those town (dragon, BBt, Vile, ABR) were confirmed or pseudoconfirmed due to role interactions. That meant scum had two remaining mislynches (me and saint) and they needed to hit BOTH of them to win. Now here's the cute part. Whether scum was lynched or not, they still needed the same two mislynches to win. No amount of bussing increases the number of mislynches, and scum would be happy to just kill conftown every night. So long as one of them is townier than the two mislynches, they still win. That's incentive to bus early and often, since towncred from catching scum is more valuable than a suspect vote from a buddy when attempting to secure a mislynch.

Scum needs to mislynch in order to win? No shit.

Sorin may have like 100 posts more than me, but he's been active lurking all game. The signal to noise ratio in his ISO is atrocious, and he's consistently been behind on the game.

i'm a fluffy poster.

Soron never pushed a real case on anyone all game, just vague suspicions.

Not really good with making a case.

He was, however, online and active during deadline on day1, when he refused to hammer boo because his 'heart couldn't take it' or some shit.

There were enough people to lynch boo.

He instead spent the end of the day blaming others for the impending no-lynch and attempting to set up the lynches for the next few days:

Why can't town do this?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I have 0 motivation for this game.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

VOTE: Sthar

I really don't like his tunneling all game on Saint and it's quite embarrassing he was allowed to do that and prod dodge all game.

[sthar8]

Whatever. Same shit all game.
"I think saint's scum, can anybody tell me why he isn't"

"Nope, but you're scummy because you didn't change your mind"

Short posts while I'm at work are scummy.

Long posts after work are scummy.

I'm scum for prod dodging? And pushing my scumread.

Saren's town for active lurking and never having a scumread.

Not to mention the army of shit stuffed strawmen he just posted.

I'm tired of being the only one who gives a shit, then getting scum read for it.

I'm going camping, and I hope the game's over by the time I get back because I'm fucking done.

Do what you want.

[Soren]

The scum's last resort. ATE

[sthar8]

^ yeah that one, right there. "Oh he might have logic and reasoning and I've been a useless sack of shit all game, but watch out guys! HE'S JUST TRYING TO TRICK YOU" Give me a break. That's an obvious, shitty appeal to fear. Its a testament to how bad this town has been that transparent scum like you is still alive.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm really happy with my vote.

You were told why Saint wasn't scum, multiple times. You decided to ignore this and continue your tunnel on him.

You gave a shit this game? Could have fooled me...I would hate to see you not giving a shit in a game.

[Vilewhirl]

Im scared that sthar played a good scum game, but soren just makes too much sense as scum here. Sthars tunnel on saint is kinda bad but like, it doesn't really feel that disingenuous to me. Sorry if wrong but going with my heart on this. Vote: soren

[Vilewhirl]

vote: soren

[Soren]

go for sthar

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Hmm, well, anyone wanna self-vote?

[Vilewhirl]

bbt you were talking like you liked sthars case earlier and now youre hardcore parkour for him getting lynched.
watsup brah.
what changed?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I did, but Sthar has tunneled Saint all game and done nothing else.

Common scum tactic.

Also, Soren was first to call Anti out for lurking and vote him. Although, he did feel kind of smug about it so maybe he was bussing?

Whoever is town out of Soren/Sthar is doing an embarrassing job in MyLo.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Vile, what do you think about Sthar's 617? In particular, look at Saint's scum reads. He had 2/3.

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Also, in 662 Sthar says he finds Anti scummy for his lurking. He states this again in 755 and 757. Continues into 811 and 826 (all of this without his vote on Anti). I agreed with Saint's point about Sthar/Anti in 831 which Sthar replies weakly to in 918.

After 918, Sthar doesn't even mention Anti in the next 1,000 posts. In this time, a wagon builds on Anti and in 1117 he is at L-4. Does Sthar join this wagon which is surely on scum because he can read Anti so easily? Nope, he continues pushing his wagon on Saint with NO MENTION of Anti at all. Why? Why no mention of Anti when he is one of the leading wagons?

Also worth noting, in the 1,000 posts that pass in which Sthar does not mention Anti, Anti posts twice. TWICE. Why the fuck isn't Sthar all over him? He completely ignores him, despite previously saying if Anti continued his lurking he would become a scum read for him. Was he subtly trying to tell Anti to engage with the game? Probably.

[Vilewhirl]

im not really sure if i take much away from it tbh. :s
if like, saint hadnt been calling him scum every single post before that one, then i would take more away from it, but i dont think he was doing anything more than just try to stoke the fire under saint at that point. i dont think saint's reads really ever entered into it.
if sthar is scum, he probably thinks saint is a jerk and is using that energy to fake a scumread on him.
if sthar is town, he probably legitimately thought saint was the scummiest jerk ever.
im having trouble telling whether its the former or the latter at this point and its my only hangup.

Also, Soren was first to call Anti out for lurking and vote him. Although, he did feel kind of smug about it so maybe he was bussing?

there could be daytalk.
also, there isnt really much of an effort to actually push him for it from what i recall. the vote is just kind of there.

[Vilewhirl]

ehhhhhhh.
fuck.
UNVOTE:
im confused now

[BlueBloodedToffee]

Alright, what do you think of my second post re: Anti/Sthar?

PEdit -

[Soren]

Look at the first 20 or so posts from sthar, he calls people town or obvscum without actually ever explaining anything.

[Vilewhirl]

im amazed that im pretty much solidly considering giving intent to hammer sthar here.

bbt's points about lack of anti commentary are really really resonating with me and sthars readlists look really awful and mislynchbaity.
fuckkkkkkkk.

[Vilewhirl]

like him consistently trying to push everyone but anti/titus/mac looks awful the more i look at it.
he never even commented on titus post replace-in.
never really tried to comment on mac.
he calls mac and soren scum and then votes for soren.
fuck.
i hate that im scumreading soren for tone and sthar for actual play.

im feeling really conflicted.

[Jingle]

Vote Count ?

sthar8 (2): Soren, Bluebloodedtoffee
Soren (1): sthar8

No Lynch (0):

Not Voting (1): Vilewhirl

Day 4 ends in (expired on 2015-07-14 15:00:00) on Tuesday July 14th at 4:00 PM PST.