NY 190: Molla's Large Normal

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Hi guys, who is scum?

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No mention of it in my replacement PM, I have asked the mod to be sure.

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Hi guys, who is scum?

Did you get a Freindly Neighbor message last night?

I got the message from the mod, he forgot to tell me. The answer is yes. I got a message. Should I reveal it?

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I'm just going to follow DGB's signature
VOTE: DGB

I was waiting for the mod to answer, you cretin.

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Well, since you guys are beating it out of me under threat of lynch, the message was that Skybird is town. Now he's going to gt nightkilled you idiots.

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Does the Friendly Neighbour message you received contain the word "Town" twice?

No just once

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I'm just going to follow DGB's signature
VOTE: DGB

You realize that was a hammer????

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vote DGB

This vote here is scum. PLEASE AVENGE ME.

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IAI, why VG/DGB?

Because he's scum and I am too damn good a scum hunter.

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Should I reveal it?

Just paraphrase it, i dont think you are allowed to straight out reveal it.
Based on this answer i'll go back to FB.

Firebringer is town too, BTW

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P-Edit: I actually didnt realize that vote was a hammer.

You are an idiot.

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UNVOTE:
I just counted, it wasn't, unvoting for now to be safe

I actually knew that, but your vote was impulsive and stupid and I wanted to make you feel guilty for it.

Having said that, your reaction is town.

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VOTE: I Am Innocent

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1-shot BP doc sounds totally whack.

Can you remind me what 'friendly neighbor' is?

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I thought that was "amnesiac cop"

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You can't have two cops and one doctor with a BP.

Do normal games have insanes?

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I just realized that if you had to ask about Friendly Neighbors, you didn't receive that in your PM...

I did.

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Either way, Amnesiac cop sends their cop results to another player, FN just targets someone and tells them that they are town.

One-shot or multiple shot?

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This is day 2, and there has been no NK?

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I am just curious, how does it happen that I replace into a game and there is a gun to my head to clear some other player as town so that the scum can NK him faster?

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I'm going to wait on this from everyone, but looks like DGB did in fact not receive a message that stated that Skybird was a Friendly Neighbor. And only that Skybird was town. This is interesting, and if true VG was lying. (or AJ is lying, but considering how VG changed his message like 3 times it doesn't help the case)

The F.

Are you scum???

The mod didn't even bother sending me the message with my replacement PM. YOU, and your scumbuddy IAI rush to vote me while I am sleeping and waiting for the mod to send me the stupid message.

I have not read the game and I have no idea what the situation is, and I have played mafia for 10 years and I can't recall the last time I came across "friendly neighbor" if at all, but I have had some amnesia nonsense in some recent games and it's on my mind. Plus a lengthy and distracting mod apology. So I read quickly because you guys put me within lynching range because I'm not spitting out what you want fast enough.

Your rush to make a federal case out of wording bullshit is scummy as can be.

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They already were by your predecessor, we wanted confirmation on your side because your slot is currently under suspicion of receiving a different FN message than the other one (I disagree, but that's the theory flying around).

Given that the mod forgot to send me the message at all, I wouldn't get too hung up on consistency.

This being said, there was town and there was friendly neighbor. Not recalling what FN is, I brain farted.

But, I don't know why I am arguing with you, since you're scum.

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@Molla - Skybird is voting VeeGee / DGB slot.

@DGB

- hi and welcome!
Does the Friendly Neighbour message you received contain the word "Town" twice?

^
There's also this, impossible for you to have missed it.

I know you haven't read the game, but at least read my posts.

I actually did miss it.

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I just realized that if you had to ask about Friendly Neighbors, you didn't receive that in your PM...

I did.

So why did you not mention this when you said the message said he was town?
I mean, I understand if you haven't seen the role before, but you must have expected it to be a role, right?

I was paraphrasing!

Jesus you guys are really annoying, and you're annoying in ways that make it hard for me to tell which ones among you are opportunistic scumbags and which ones are bad townies.

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3) If I'm wrong, VG already claimed no night actions, so at worst we lose a likely VT
4) If I'm wrong, and VG flips town, that sorts out your slot. So at least one of these claimed roles will be figured out.

Oh good grief, you are so scum.

I am not just a VT, I am DrippingGoofball, scumhunter extraordinaire, and first choice for the NK unless power roles are outed.

"Sorting out Skybird's slot" is utter bullshit since you dingbats are hellbent on lynching your biggest scumhunting assets, the scum will be free to NK the confirmed townie.

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So why not say "I got his role and it said town"?

That way it clarifies what you got... Saying it said he is town just added confusion.

Why don't you crawl back in your scum PT and rejoice about lynching me today and beheading Skybird tonight.

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If Skybird dies tonight, the first one to be scrutinized would be the so claimed doctor, lol. (Which i still question why protect me over a claimed FN)

Come on, are you serious???

A doctor with a BP and you're fretting over friendly neighbor nonsense when you should be lynching the obvscum claim???

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DGB, IaI is NOT getting lynched today, if you need to survive due to deadline vote fire instead.

No thanks, scum, you can't make me vote another townie to save my own skin.

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DGB, IaI is NOT getting lynched today, if you need to survive due to deadline vote fire instead.

We're 3 of us here right now, we could lynch his scummy ass.

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And who is the cheeky scumbag that claimed bulletproof doctor to explain why he won't be NK'd after his claim? Since he's not counterclaimed the scum must know the town has no doctor.

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Read D2 and tell me if I'm still a dingbat.

It's Day 3? There is only one lynch.

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The consensus was pretty much not lynch any of the claimed PRs Today, as much as we want to, sorry, it's not going to happen Today.
Also i'd much faster lynch AJ over IaI anyway.

I don't really care about your lynching preferences since you are scum.

You probably aren't going to go for a last-ditch bus.

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I voted him at day start and he started talking about how i was ungrateful since he protected me, and outed TheWorst as Friendly Neighbor

Why are you all so hellbent on outing the FNs so that they are NK'd right away???

I wish we could get a deadline extension.

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Also i'd much faster lynch AJ over IaI anyway.

I am guessing IAI is your buddy.

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I don't really care about your lynching preferences since you are scum.

Everyone is just scum to you?

I mean, you can throw your toys out of the pram, but it will just result in no one caring...

You may just be really bad town.

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I am going to wager 100 coconuts right here on a town loss.

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And i don't understand why you think i am scum.

Because your top lynching choices are townies, and you don't want to budge.

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I am going to wager 100 coconuts right here on a town loss.

I'll take it. Town have me so it's more or less a win.
Someone who comes into the game without knowing anything that has happened throwing their 2 pence around is not what will win it.

You are just too pointless and annoying, I refuse to read, respond to, or acknowledge any further post from you.

Unless you want to lynch that scumbag IAI. But you'll probably townread that scum until endgame.

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If Skybird dies tonight, the first one to be scrutinized would be the so claimed doctor, lol. (Which i still question why protect me over a claimed FN)

Come on, are you serious???

A doctor with a BP and you're fretting over friendly neighbor nonsense when you should be lynching the obvscum claim???

Yes read D2 and you'll see both Luna and I pushing this.

So why isn't that fakeclaim lynched?

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No way town has both a BP Doc and a BP Bodyguard. I stand by that.

The bodyguard is BP, too????

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Is the BP limited-shot? The doc/bodyguard?

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And the BP?

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BG claimed 2 shot BP

So we have two potentially conftowns and two, 2-shot invicible players to protect them?

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That's four players that the scum must NK before endgame if we don't lynch them.

Both protective roles need to be shot 3 times.

Is there any evidence of us having a vig?

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The BP jailkeeper could jailkeep scum... while being BP??? This is like seven layers of stopping the scum kill.

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The BP jailkeeper is even dodgier than the BP doctor when you think about it.

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Could the first one that claimed be town, and the second one be scum mimicking the first one's claim?

Could they BOTH be scum?

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It is a BP bodyguard, not JK

That kind of defeats the "bodyguard" aspect, LOL, it's the same as doctor?

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DGB we can probably get an extension if you're actually interested in helping to figure this out.

Yes please!

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I actually like Firebringer or Veegee getting lynched. Epic VCA

DGB, your scumputer hits when, Day 3?

Yes... but there is only one player whose alignment is revealed.

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Someone made a list of claims... I am looking for it and can't find it anymore. Can someone repost? Maybe I am tired...

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This all happened Night 1?

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I didn't even get a chance to interact with:

Performer
TheWorst
ChannelDelibird
Aj The Epic
FA_Q2
Skybird

Mod can we have an extension please?

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Have I mentioned I don't trust any of titus judgements in this game?
I think I have.

Is Titus scum?

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The way I see it, deadline is looming, both main wagons are on townies. Now, it looks like these wagons are softening, and that other possibilities, including an extension, are being considered. This is bad for scum. Wouldn't scum want to lead us back to lynching townies?

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Dang it.

Everyone should unvote Firebringer and vote whomever.

Aren't 3 of the Firebringer voters scummy lurksacks anyway?

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I prefer Performer but the town is having none of it.

Why is that?

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Do you think IAI is town?

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Is there something that you wish to point out that makes fire town?

Yes, whenever we're in a game together, he's always scum. He can't always be that unlucky, LOL.

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I have voiced the fact that I want to lynch AJ as well and would be glad to move back there but that is another place that town is simply unwilling to go at this point even though it seems so many are scum reading AJ.

IAI has 2 votes. You can make it 3.

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It dav was in this game he would be yelling at you about gamblers fallacy >.>

LOL I know these are independent dice rolls. But still...

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Yeah, Talah is scum for me.

Flash lynched? =D

VOTE: Talah

What are you doing? Talah is town.

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Titus is scum.

Tomorrow I will push for the death of Titus ALL DAY LONG.

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I would seriously consider shooting him again has got him really worried lol

He'd be worried as either alignment, you turkey. Personally I find getting vig'ged as town humiliating.

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@ IAI

How come you're not shooting at AJ???? That's bizarre.

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How come you're not shooting at AJ???? That's bizarre.

If Aj has a BP as described and it hasn't gone, then if IaI fails, it wouldn't confirm anything for us.

If he's lying scum he'll be dead, that should be good enough.

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How come IAI doesn't want to shoot Titus?

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Can someone remind me where Luna is town in this game?

Town inquiring mindset.

The opposite of Titus.

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VOTE: Firebringer

No really, he's pretty damn transparently town.

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I still don't like lynching claimed vig out of policy of it's pretty provable. Unless we're arguing SK.

UNVOTE:

However, I agree firebringer isn't the lynch for today.

Scum claim right here. Unvoting the only alternative to the claimed vig while saying "he doesnt want to lynch claimed vig" so it becomes the only viable wagon.

I am here and I can still swing this.

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VOTE: AJ

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Firebringer is town.

Looking at the AJ wagon yesterday, and concluding that the alternate wagons were on scum is ridiculous.

VOTE: Titus

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Sal's refusal to fight me

Oh right, i forgot about that
VOTE: FB

I realize that FB is my alternate wagon and I should shut up, but he's rather transparently town.

Have you considered Tituscum? You should!

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Have you considered Tituscum? You should!

I did, that's why im townreading her.

Convince me.

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Why should I try something else when it's 95% likely there's at least one scum in you/DGB?

LOL, really.

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You know I dont' tunnel.

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My acidosis is acting up and I have trouble breathing, I am light headed. I don't feel like it.

But, if you want to isolate the main wagons and color the names, I'll gladly pick it up from there.

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Titus' buddies aren't bus'ing?

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DGB give up their partners easily

Oh really, please prove this, I am the biggest anti-bus'er on the site, good luck with your inquiry.

Which reminds me, are you scum? Because you just lied.

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I really thought that you were one to throw under the bus.

Based on what?

You presented this statement to everyone like it was the truth and you had insider knowledge.

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So what you have said is if FB flips town, we should go with scum you...?

What with the false dichotomy now?

Firebringer is mislynch bait, but he is easy to read. He has a child-like enthusiasm for the game that is transparently town.

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You seem to think that Titus might be scum, and I agree with you on that, why not vote Titus?

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LOL, maybe I am bus'ing my budddy Titus for towncred, you should help me.

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Even more with Titus who will self hammer as scum...

That sounds like extra incentive to rush Titus to L-1 to me.

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That sounds like extra incentive to rush Titus to L-1 to me.

Why? It cuts out additional days we have to discuss...

I don't care if it lynches us some scum.

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So, if Titus flips town, where would you stand on FB?

Still town.

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On what basis are you asserting that one of us is scum?

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I thought you were scumreading me.
I can't follow you Vedith...

I really suggest you re read 2774

Let's go back to reality. I state that one ifFB and Veegee at least must be scum, or there's no point to wagoning AJ. They both respond by voting me.

In 2504, near deadline..neither are voting each other. Both are voting IAI the vig. You would think if they were voting they would have voted each other at crunch time. Nope.

At least one of Veegee(DGB)/FB is scum.

I've been very busy over the weekend and have just caught up. CDB didn't pick up his prod? I think a replacement is coming soon for that slot.

@FA , Titus's post above makes sense
VOTE: Fire

Titus' post is complete nonsense and entirely based on a Titus-centric false dilemma. It's all about

two townies that read each other as town, and read Titus as scum, therefore, one of the two townies must be scum.

Do you realize how ridiculously scummy "Titus's post above makes sense" sounds? Because it makes no sense whatsoever, you "agree" with it, and vote the lynchbait.

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CDB didn't pick up his prod? I think a replacement is coming soon for that slot.

What kind of scummy, useless, make-work project busywork is that comment?

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I've been very busy over the weekend and have just caught up.

SCUM PROCRASTINATION DETECTED

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there's no point in swinging a last minute wagon.

There is plenty of point to swinging a last minute wagon in a game with short days, you turkey. But, hey, you're scum, you're just doing your job, so, mad props to you!

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2a) Scum generally avoid bussing on day 1.

Are you out of your scum mind, scum does nothing but bus day 1.

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There aren't enough flips for the scumputer.

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but no scum generally don't bus.

Pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

LOL

I want to lynch you more to see who YOU bus'ed

I bet you and your buddies had a nice little bus-fest.

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VCA notes

67 - Firebringer is being voted by both FAQ and IAI who both are teal townies. Yet, AJ has an all town wagon. Scum are lurking extensively in 67. High probability of RVS wagons here.

124 - Two major wagons on townies. Scum were not messing with my thoughts in 124. Yet, scum have no reason to counter town. Definitely lurktastic scum at the start of the game. I doubt all three of FB/Performer/Luna are scum as that would mean scum were deliberately counterwagoning AJ. That's high risk low reward behavior.

luna fox counterwagon next. Two conftownies get on and then FB's slot. Not likely scum scum unless FB's slot Luna was likely to be lynched at the point. *note review this to make sure conclusion is accurate.

DGB springs up and we see TW (teal townie), Firebringer and Performer who are both unknown.

PERFORMER - 4 - TALAH, AJ THE EPIC, LUNA FOX, FA_Q2
DRIPPINGGOOFBALL - 2 - THEWORST, PERFORMER,

Performer wagon looks mostly if not all town. DGB has one town and one unknown. If performer and luna are town, scum haven't started driving wagons yet.

Composition of 995 is terrible, but that's why god made 995 motions. #lawyer joke

Eyeballing day 1, FB, DGB and Vedith all shock me. They all are passive (as slots) never starting wagons and never being close to each other on wagons.


Jumping ahead cuz tired, will need to go deeper here

FIREBRINGER - 5 - LUNA FOX, PERFORMER, AJ THE EPIC, TALAH, FA_Q2,
DRIPPINGGOOFBALL - 4 - VEDITH, FIREBRINGER, TITUS, SKYBIRD,
AJ THE EPIC - 1 - CHANNELDELIBIRD,
TALAH - 1 - IAI,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, DRIPPINGGOOFBALL,

*Scum are split on these wagons most likely near deadline OR FB is really important scum. IAI is teal town. SAme with TW. DGB voting FB likely throws it over the edge. The Firebringer wagon has Luna (probably town), Performer (town by sketchy wagon d1), 2 conftowns and then FAQ (probtown). FB and Vedith are both voting VeeGee who was MIA at that point in the game. Then there's two conftownies.

Eyeballing this

DGB/FB and one of Vedith/CDB. The latter two due to wagon avoidance more than anything.

Definitely stand by my assertion that one of FB or DGB must be scum.

IAI 5 - DGB, Firebringer, TALAH, SKYBIRD, IAI [L-2]
Firebringer 5 - Performer, AJ, FA_Q2, Titus, Luna [L-2]


DGB and FB swing a last second counterwagon to themselves. the FB wagon is obviously town loaded. That's the decision point for who is getting lynched, FB or IAI.

Oh look Vedith starts bringing up the rear... not surprised here.

Vedith looks so bad because FGB and DGB are scum. Townbeard candidate... He reads town but his voting history is utter shit.

OMG this is nothing but the hashing out of wrong assumptions, spread over incorrect assumptions, put in a blender to come out as yet more completely wrong assumptions.

This is such scum thinking it's not funny.

I haven't seen a worse "case" in my entire life, and I have been playing for 10 years.

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Or a Mafia vig, but im happy accepting both of them as town for the purposes of PoE for now.

VOTE: Firebringer

IaI should shoot the other if FB flips town, I like that plan.

Did you read Titus' bullshit carefully???

Are you seriously buying it???

Is Titus scum making absolutely horrible "cases" or are YOU scum supporting a townie's horrible "cases?"

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I could swing a CDB wagon.

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So cute how Titus believes every role claim she gets.

They are ordered on her to-nightkill list.

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Great, FB is not scum.

Titus go ahead and find the scum on his wagon now.

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vote firebringer

L-1 people.

At this point the only person I'd rather lynch more is DGB, but I'm content to use a vig shot in that direction as well.

Shame on you, are you buying Titus' BS too?

Which parts do you agree with?

I want to you commit to some of the idiocy you appear to agree with.

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Really, his case makes sense and has since you changed the wagon over yesterday from FB over to the town doc.

Really, like, no one believed he was a BULLETPROOF DOCTOR after all, and yesterday's wagon was, most of us decided, on town.

You make it sound like someone was lynched by me voting them alone.

So, gonna say it for the rest of you here: FA_Q2 is scum, are we going to lynch his scummy ass here today, or not?

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Are you still thinking IaI is scum as well?

Is that important for you to decide who to NK?

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What are your alternatives other than Titus - a lynch that apparently is not happening right now.

VOTE: FA_Q2

Does that answer your question?

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Titus if you're really town you should want to lynch the scum that piggybacked your terrible "reasoning."

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What are your alternatives other than Titus - a lynch that apparently is not happening right now.

VOTE: FA_Q2

Does that answer your question?

Not really. Your vote is nothing short of OMGUS. I notice that it lacked any reasoning other than you don't like the fact I addressed you or voted fire.

And you have the gall to call titus reasoning shitty. I guess since you managed to push town into lynching their BP Doc yesterday you think that you can push town into lynching their BPBG today. Good luck with that.

You seem to know I am town.

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So you're just terrible town?

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Their bp doc?

Did you accidentally post this in the game thread rather than the scum PT?

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No. Look at FAQ post. It needs explaining.

LOL, I see, interesting.

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Anyone else find it suspicious that Luna decided to get off me when I claimed VT?

No, it would have been a lot easier to beg someone else to hammer you.

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I'm still pretty sure that DGB/FB has at least one scum.

Stahp it we're both town.

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FB shoot DGB

Great plan, let's lynch one townie and shoot the other!

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Their bp doc?

Yes - towns BP Doc. Read the statements I made AND the tense that they were in.

He drove TOWN to lynch THEIR doc. That should not be difficult to understand. You are digging for slips that are not there.

How do you feel now about Titus's crap "cases" after that "scumslip" of yours?

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Yeah lynch FB, shoot DGB. That's it.

Right, get rid of two townies.

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But if this were multiball, don't u think scum would shoot me if I was faking a town vig claim?

Why? Wouldn't it be better for scum to let you help them diminish town numbers before shooting you?

Sometimes it works out that way, but scum always lives in fear of vig shots.

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Anyone else find it suspicious that Luna decided to get off me when I claimed VT?
Like "Hey I bet we can lynch the Vigi guys!"

Now I kinda feel IaI is town.

Did u forget this town read from 32 posts ago?

Lynch with fire people.

Sorry, scum is afraid to change their mind, townies never are.

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Well see, at least if you are vigi, we stop you from shooting a town.
Its a win-win in my eyes.

This is the supposed reason for changing his mind about me. And not just me, but joining the person (Luna) on my wagon he just attacked in the same post he defended me.

Straws DGB

Exactly. No scum would change their mind so carelessly over such obviously bad reasoning.

Scum have way more consistent reads than townies.

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LOL, it's not super-bad reasoning actually.

How many nights as he been outed as a vig, and were there more important targets for the scum to NK over him, is the question.

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Hey Titus, which scum is voting for Firebringer?

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Hey Titus, which scum is voting for Firebringer?

Dgb hopefully

Titus is way too smart and persistent a scumhunter to say something this boneheaded as town.

VOTE: Titus

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Firebringer, please help me wrap the townie noose of justice around Titus's scummy little neck.

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Vedith is also town.

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Shame on everyone that voted Firebringer on Tituscum's urging. Firebringer was really towning it up. Why you all decided to sheep scum, I'll never know.

VOTE: Titus

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Uh i think it'd have been better to wait for IaI to say what he did before coming up with theories, that being said, i don't disagree, and i'll probably vote there too pending hearing from IaI.

Come on, how much more obvscum can a player be?

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Titus, if you were town, you'd seriously be the dumbest player that ever played.

But I reckon your scum game is top notch and you're leading all the numbskulls by the nose. Good job.

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Yes I shot DGB last night. Agree with Titus, the scum let my shot go through against talah, but stopped it last night.

vote DGB

With even numbers left, I plan on shooting again tonight as no difference between starting Day five with 5 or 6 players. Question is, should we announce in thread who I'm shooting, or should I just go off on my own so scum won't know?

OMG NO

You're kidding me?

WTF

I am town and no one shot me

Who is scum, Titus, IAI, or both?

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Titus said that IaI should shoot DGB or FB whoever, of the 2 lives, that's not a scum slip.
VOTE: DGB

You are making a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake

Please unvote and take some time to reconsider

[DrippingGoofball]

@ MOD

It would be nice if the OP was updated and the spoiler tags removed for easier reference.

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I don't even know what day it is and if we hit any scum at all.

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No scum has died, right?

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That means IAI & Titus are buddies.

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Basically I think there is 2 more scum in the following 4 players:

Luna
Performer
Pignash
Vedith

Would be curious to get both FAQ's and Titus's thoughts on this list before this day ends.

OMG that is such BS

[DrippingGoofball]

Look guys, I know it's just my word against two scumbags with a plan.

But look at how Titus knew ahead of time what IAI was going to say... they planned it the scum PT.

[DrippingGoofball]

Look at this night with two kills:

talah - Vanilla Townie - Killed N2
choof Skybird - Town Friendly Neighbor - Killed N2

Talah was towning it up real hard, and Skybird was confirmed friendly neighbor by me.

Oh shit

Is it possible that, with the two bulletproof protective roles, the scum has a extra kill???

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd rush you to unvote but two scums are already voting for me.

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Is it possible that, with the two bulletproof protective roles, the scum has a extra kill???

If scum has an extra kill then IaI is it, but then that'd require for IaI to not have shot last night or you to be protected by a townie.
I did mention the possibility of SK/Mafia Vig, but everyone just went on and dismissed it.
Occam's razor just says that scum let IaI shoot talah and blocked his shot on you because you're scum.

Maybe he's just one-shot.

Because, I am just vanilla.

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Luna, please humor me, and vote either Titus or IAI.

I actually think IAI is the better bet, because he is more clearly lying.

It's possible as a Mafia Vig he used his shot on the BP bodyguard. Or, maybe the bodyguard protected me, but I doubt it. I don't even remember who claimed BG. Do you?

[DrippingGoofball]

if both IaI and Titus are scum, gg, your plan worked because i don't see myself seeing DGB town right now.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Don't let it happen

Make a leap of faith the the goofball, please!

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Please humor me if you don't believe me. Let's lynch one of these two today. We have TWO scums.

If you lynch me, IAI may have a shot to use against another townie.

Can't you wait for the BG to declare his target?

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FAQ Claimed BG.

Yeah he wouldn't have targeted me...

But maybe he targeted IAI.

I really find that you are rushing into this without considering everything.

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Scum currently needs 2 townie votes on town to win unless it's 2 scum instead of 3 (which i doubt), your "humor me and vote this" looks manipulative.

No... it's humor me and vote the scum instead of town-me.

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I really don't know what do say to convince you these two are scum... unless you're scum with them in which case I am wasting my time, and must hope that ALL the townies will agree to vote scum...

It's really an he-said she-said situation, I am vanilla, I have no weapon in my arsenal, and we have IAI who is faking town vig...

Seriously other than begging people to believe you, what would you do?

Can't you notice Titus's shit cases yesterday, setting up some false dilemma that one of Firebringer and I had to be scum so that she could line up the other one for the next day's lynch?

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I'm not gonna vote who you want me to vote i'll just keep my vote nowhere in the meantime.

Why do you even think I am scum, for defending a townie yesterday?

And you now know that I wasn't making things up about the Friendly Neighbor, since he flipped dead Friendly Neighbor.

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There are so many more reason to read Titus as scum! Come on!

Anyhoo...

Maybe you're the third scum, so, there's that.

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What im bothered about is FAQ not protecting the FN

That's interesting, I hadn't thought of that.

[DrippingGoofball]

but im gonna wait for FAQ's protect target, if it's not DGB then im turbo lynching DGB today.

But, he's a BG, his target could have been IAI with the same effect.

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@Luna, I have an answer of that. Pretty common sense BTW. Not concerned about FAQ without IAI being scum.

Well yeah it's pretty possible for all of you 3 to be scum, but im gonna wait for FAQ's protect target, if it's not DGB then im turbo lynching DGB today.
Also im pretty sure if i was scum and DGB town, DGB wouldn't be alive, which reminds me... why has DGB not booted her scumputer yet.

There weren't enough dead players.

But it doesn't matter since you suck at mafia and you are falling for Titus' BS. You deserve to lose.

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Your ignoring of Titus's BS from yesterday would stink of scum except that there were other players dumb enough to fall for it.

I don't think people bothered to read any of it.

[DrippingGoofball]

This message for Firebringer in the Dead PT:

Sorry mate, it's not your fault, you played a solid town game, and I am doing my best. I don't think you could have done any better so I hope you're not beating yourself up. I am not in the mood to duke it out with Tituscum and his buddy IAI. This is actually a pretty crappy assemblage of players, so it's bad luck that the strongest players seemed to have landed the scum roles. I think there is zero chance of steering this bunch towards a town win. I am just going to let this game go. Sorry, buddy.

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Any of what? I read the whole game and came to the same conclusion as Titus. I'm rereading ISOs for you, vedith, performer and Titus to see what I'm missing because it's three of you four.

Yeah OK whatever the town has lost this game

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Any of what? I read the whole game and came to the same conclusion as Titus. I'm rereading ISOs for you, vedith, performer and Titus to see what I'm missing because it's three of you four.

The amount of effort that I will spend making you see the light is going to be

ZERO

I'm pretty much disgusted with the town performance.

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Any of what? I read the whole game and came to the same conclusion as Titus. I'm rereading ISOs for you, vedith, performer and Titus to see what I'm missing because it's three of you four.

You're saying you are making iso, I see zero evidence of any isos or any thinking.

Thanks for your contribution to an embarrassing town loss.

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I'm just waiting for some numbskull to declare that I am flailing and be done with it.

Maybe if I'm lucky the mod will update the OP so I know what day it is and who died and didn't die.

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Unlike some people I don't have a scum PT to help keep track of this stuff.

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sudden quick votes on a possible Lylo... And the stupid FB lynch.

Thank you I needed that bit of sunshine.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm a new player so I'm sorry if this is bad etiquette but L-2 is not especially heinous in my opinion. Why is it?

If we lynch town today, we lose.

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Well, IaI could kill scum, but as you believe that he is scum (wrongly) I can see where you are coming from.

Other note, if IaI was SK, would that most likely mean 2 scum instead of 3?

Unless he was bodyguarded, which is weird given that the Friendly Neighbor was left unprotected, he is lying outright about targeting me.

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Alright, I don't believe you are town, but I understand that if you are we lose. When is it appropriate to vote for someone past 2 then? In a week?

Are you done pretending that you have iso'd the players and basically putting in an naked, unjustified vote at LYLO?

Then knock yourself out and vote me, the town loss is on YOU.

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Well, IaI could kill scum, but as you believe that he is scum (wrongly) I can see where you are coming from.

Other note, if IaI was SK, would that most likely mean 2 scum instead of 3?

Hey, do you want to try to solve the game as a futile exercise just for fun as these non-game-reading numbskulls are lynching me?

Maybe at least at end game we can savor the small victory of being right.

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So, Vedith, from now on you're the only player that I will address.

I am town, and vanilla. It's as if you've seen my role PM.

Now, IAI claims to have targeted me.
There are some possibilities:
(1) he was bodyguarded
(2) I was bodyguarded (though very unlikely)
(3) maybe he was actually RB'd by scum (though with him and Titus clamoring for my NK, that would be highly unlikely)
(3) he is lying. Maybe he is one-shot, maybe 2-shot, maybe he used a shot on the BP bodyguard, and is pretending that he shot me and failed instead.

What I find most damning is Titus' post at the day's opening. She pretty much "predicted" what IAI was going to say, and frames it as only one possible explanation:

Pretty much confirmed by IaI being let go with his intent to shoot Talah but blocked when shooting DGB. (Supposition here that IaI didn't no kill).

The bit about "let do with his intent to shoot talah" is interesting. Maybe IAI is a has a strongman shot? Why didn't the bodyguard protect talah? I guess in his mind it could be protecting a player against a vig shot, but still... The FN wasn't protected either. So, who did the bodyguard, bodyguard?

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Pretending? What the actual fuck? I am currently reading through Vediths and looking for something conclusive. But I don't think anything is going to compare to you and him berating me once I put my vote on you.

I am done for the day. I don't need the personal attacks. I will unvote for the time being on the off chance you're just mean spirited and not scum.

UNVOTE:

I am most definitelyy mean-spirited and not scum.

Having said that, I will completely ignore you because you are not reading the game, not putting thought into it, and you don't count except as some random spectator that votes with the scum.

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If he was bodyguarded, why would that stop a kill?

I prevents someone from being targeted and/or targeting someone.

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Oh? Then I had the role completely wrong...
I thought that the BG would die in your place, and the 1 shot BP was to save from the first death.

You're right... I am on crack... I switched "bodyguard" with "jailkeeper" in my head.

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I have guarded IaI for the last 2 nights.

If you are telling the truth, that means that IAI is straight up lying about targeting me.

Technically he could have been roleblocked, but since I am town and Titus was repeating that if Firebringer was town, then I should be shot next because I had to be scum, I doubt that a scum roleblocker would have tageted IAItown.

A more likely possibility is that Tituscum & IAIscum decided that it was a bigger priority to shoot the FN (I think that was the correct decision for scum anyway), and then for Tituscum to continue to push for the lynches she has been lining up, while faking that IAI targeted me but was stopped.

Now, the remaining intellectual exercise is, who is the third scum?

If I can solve that I will consider it a personal win.

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I do find it odd that you protected a possible town to a confirmed town.

...and twice, but I surmise that as scum, I would have NK'd the vig before the conftown, so protecting the claimed vig wasn't necessarily a bad idea.

It just happens that IAI is not town, but mafia vigs

are

unusual.

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@ Vedith, if FA_Q2 cannot be of the same alignment as IAI, I would surmise that FA_Q2 is town.

So far I have:

Town

DGB
Vedith
FAQ2

Scum

IAI
Titus

The third scum is in:

Performer, Pignash, Luna Fox

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah IaI admits to have vigged DGB but DGB didn't die, while IaI's shot on Talah went through fine N2.
IaI's supposed to be 2-shot BP too.

Explain? I have a big of brain fog today.

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FIREBRINGER

- 4 -

TITUS,

FA_Q2, PERFORMER,

I AM INNOCENT

,

I AM INNOCENT

- 2 - LUNA FOX,

FIREBRINGER,

TITUS

- 1 -

VEDITH

,

FA_Q2

- 1 -

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL

,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, CHANNELDELIBIRD,

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Vedith the fact here is that IaI is a town vig, they didnt block his shot on talah, but they blocked his shot on DGB. And yes it was obvious that IaI was shooting DGB...

You are not considering that IAI may be a limited-shot Mafia vig, maybe he can't shoot anymore, and he didn't even shoot last night.

I mean,

I know

he didn't, I am phrasing it from your perspective.

[DrippingGoofball]

FIREBRINGER

- 4 -

TITUS,

FA_Q2

, PERFORMER,

I AM INNOCENT

,

I AM INNOCENT

- 2 - LUNA FOX,

FIREBRINGER,

TITUS

- 1 -

VEDITH

,

FA_Q2

- 1 -

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL

,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, pignash,

Sorry I forgot to green up FAQ2

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I mean, I know he didn't, I am phrasing it from your perspective.

Why does everyone think that he didn't?
I mean, Titus said that he was blocked... Why would she randomly say that he was blocked?
I think that scum have a RB.

So, you're saying that Titusscum isn't scum with IAI? How is this possible?

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Yeah i know that Town!You would know this, but Scum!You would know the opposite and could be saying the same thing, right now gut tells me that you are scum via a kill on talah working and then a kill on you not working.

And you could be scum who really wants my lynch to go through as planned in the scum PT.

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So, you're saying that Titusscum isn't scum with IAI? How is this possible?

I'm saying I am in favour of IaI town.

Pretend you know that I am town. Given that IAI is saying he tried to kill me and failed, why would >>

I

<< think he's town?

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Because Titus or FAQ is a RB?
Why would they not want a mis lynch on you? If he killed you it's still Lylo as it most likely is now.

But, scum would never want to stop a vig shot on a townie.

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It's Lylo and we then fubble over who to lynch.

That's more of a slam-dunk for scum than the alternative.

[DrippingGoofball]

Now, if we're going to assume that scum would not want to stop a town-vig shot on me because it's against their self-interest, that would mean IAI is scum, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

Would not lynch Today:

Performer, Titus, Vedith, talah, Luna Fox, IAI, Skybird, Banana, VeeGee

Would be OK with lynching Today:

zakk, TheWorst, AJ, FAQ2

This is the slot pignash replaced into, right?

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Regardless - I still think that if IaI is town, then scum blocked him.
Regardless if you are scum, or they done it to push for a lynch on you...

But, if IAI is town, I really don't think scum would have shot him. But, it's not impossible that they didn't want to have a conftown at LYLO... but still... as scum I would do the safe move. I don't recall, did IAI actually say he was going to shoot me? Because, Titus said it a lot, but I don't remember if IAI did, or confirmed he was in on the plan.

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Boy that veegee/DGB wagon did disappear quickly :-/

Whose the 3rd person in my vig pool: talah vedith ?

There was this, I guess?

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The only way I see DGB town is this is an elaborate frame job by FAQ going back to Day 2.

Normally I'd say you suck at mafia but I realize you are great scum.

Please don't interfere with my solving the game for kicks and personal glory with Vedith.

[DrippingGoofball]

1) Scum didn't hammer FB or DGB

Maybe scum was already on the wagon, LOL

[DrippingGoofball]

FIREBRINGER - 6 - TITUS, FA_Q2, PERFORMER, I AM INNOCENT, PIGNASH, LUNA FOX,
TITUS - 3 -

VEDITH, DRIPPINGGOOFBALL, FIREBRINGER,

NOT VOTING:

THEWORST,

I surmise that 100% of the scum was voting for Firebringer.

[DrippingGoofball]

Was this the height of the Veegee wagon? It needed 7 to lynch,

VEEGEE

- 4 - PERFORMER, TITUS,

TALAH,

VEDITH,

AJ THE EPIC

- 2 - LUNA FOX, FA_Q2, I AM INNOCENT,

VEDITH

- 1 -

FIREBRINGER,

FA_Q2 - 1 -

AJ THE EPIC,

NOT VOTING:

THEWORST, VEEGEE,

CHANNELDELIBIRD,

SKYBIRD,

WITH 13 ALIVE IT TAKES 7 TO LYNCH

REPLACING SALAMENCE20

[DrippingGoofball]

What makes you so sure I am town?

Same way I was sure that Firebringer was town. I read people's attitudes and emotions.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is Vedith green darling? I get you from your perspective but Vedith? Sounds more like agenda push than analysis.

Exactly this.
Green should be conftown only.

Yes, but don't forget, I consider this game lost to town, and I am only doing this for the intellectual exercise of being right, and the pleasure of calling all the other players numbskulls at the end of the game.

I am doing this for ME. Luna & pignash may be scum, I won't convince them, Titus is 100% scum, IAI is 99% scum. I am just trying to find the third scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

So FB was town for you because of his actions?

No, his attitude.

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When I wasn't agreeing with you when you replaced in, you said that you would ignore me going forward.
Now that I agree with your views I'm conftown?

Yes, no scum in their right mind would agree with my views, LOL, that would be vastly against their wincon, when they are so close, they have not lost a single member and they can taste my blood. It's going to be a perfect game for scum.

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Hey Vedith

If you are swayed by Tituscum's authoritative tone, so be it. But don't hammer until I have decided who the third scum is so that I can rub it in you all's idiot faces at end game.

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Just a self-reminder of where I am at.

NOTE TO ALL: Town has lost this game, when I am ready to rub it in your faces and concede the game to scum, I will self-vote. Then anyone of you cretins can hammer.

@ Vedith, if FA_Q2 cannot be of the same alignment as IAI, I would surmise that FA_Q2 is town.

So far I have:

Town

DGB
Vedith
FAQ2

Scum

IAI
Titus

The third scum is in:

Performer, Pignash, Luna Fox

FIREBRINGER

- 4 -

TITUS,

FA_Q2, PERFORMER,

I AM INNOCENT

,

I AM INNOCENT

- 2 - LUNA FOX,

FIREBRINGER,

TITUS

- 1 -

VEDITH

,

FA_Q2

- 1 -

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL

,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, CHANNELDELIBIRD,

FIREBRINGER

- 4 -

TITUS,

FA_Q2

, PERFORMER,

I AM INNOCENT

,

I AM INNOCENT

- 2 - LUNA FOX,

FIREBRINGER,

TITUS

- 1 -

VEDITH

,

FA_Q2

- 1 -

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL

,

NOT VOTING: THEWORST, pignash,

Sorry I forgot to green up FAQ2

Was this the height of the Veegee wagon? It needed 7 to lynch,

VEEGEE

- 4 - PERFORMER, TITUS,

TALAH,

VEDITH,

AJ THE EPIC

- 2 - LUNA FOX, FA_Q2, I AM INNOCENT,

VEDITH

- 1 -

FIREBRINGER,

FA_Q2 - 1 -

AJ THE EPIC,

NOT VOTING:

THEWORST, VEEGEE,

CHANNELDELIBIRD,

SKYBIRD,

WITH 13 ALIVE IT TAKES 7 TO LYNCH

REPLACING SALAMENCE20

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No, his attitude.

So, FB himself made you think town, not the other bodies before him?

Yes. I have played with FB scum a lot.

Anyway, don't interrupt me with your questions. I am solving the game and you are interfering with my train of thought.

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Why are you ignoring my attempts to talk to you? FAQ as scum framing you DGB, discuss the possibility please.

Because you knew what IAI was going to say before he said it, LOL. You're lying scum. I am not going to solve the game by discussing with scum.

==========================

More importantly. Performer has only voted townies. It's less damning in this game than in other games because this town is bad and we never lynched any scum, which means that most successful wagons were on townies anyway. However, his iso is awash with claims of feeling PARANOID, and this from his first post onward. Claims of paranoia are a scumtell. But there seems to have been zero bus'ing, which is unusual for scum.

CDB/pignash. CDB's scumlist had only townies, and then again, I would expect a scum to slip in a buddy in there. I am concerned with pignash faking reading the game though.

LunaFox. There is a lot of fluff, but also a lot of emphasis on who she finds townie, so maybe she's just bad town.

Right now I lean on Performer as the last scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

There is an answer where FAQ frames you DGB but it's moonlogicky.

I think you're just trying to incriminate another townie, LOL.

[DrippingGoofball]

You've given up and I'm the asshole...

I have not given up, since I am trying to find the scum.

I know I won't convince Tituscum & IAIscum, because, you know, they're scum.

I know I won't convince Luna and you because, you know, you're bad players. Therefore, we have lost the game.

I didn't say you are an asshole, just that, after the game, I will call you all "idiots" and "cretins" and laugh in your faces. So, really, I am the asshole here #guaranteed.

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CDB , you voted Aj and left your vote on him for the longest time. You've held a very clear stance against him since the beginning of d2, like you knew he was town all along.
On d1, you defended me heavily, based on only 1 game. Given I have a blind spot of looking over those who defend me, but tal brought to my attention that I should include that in my reads of people. Your defense of me in d1, that was awfully smug - that you were so sure of me based on only 1 game of affectations.

@mod can we PLEASE get CDB replaced

his inactivity in this game is appalling!

Mmmm maybe not, I can't see a scum following up on this sort of suspicion and getting frustrated with the mod not replacing his suspect fast enough.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am actually thinking Luna, too many of her posts are meaningless non-game-related drivel.

[DrippingGoofball]

Here are my reads, posting from my phone so I didn't use specific quotes (plus my eyes tend to glaze over the walls when it's just quote quote quote). If I misrepresent something feel free to correct me.

Peformer - this is a tough one, the aj vote yesterday was real bad. Luna starts the wagon and then DG, Performer, FB, and Vedith all jump on very quickly. Obviously they are not all scum, but I think that's where they are. Of these 4, Performer is my most likely town due to the pointed questions in his ISO, his metadiving and looseness.

Titus - Strong town read. VCA stuff is a bit over my head, but I really don't like the AJ wagon and she is making the most sense about who that points to and is relentless about hunting scum.

TheWorst - town

Vedith - PoE scum 3rd most likely

Luna Fox - seems pretty town to me, would be one of the better scum games I've seen ever otherwise

I Am Innocent - town barring something wacky

FA_Q2 - town barring something wacky

Firebringer - PoE scum 1a most likely

DrippingGoo - PoE scum 1b most likely


Sorry if this seems overly simple but this is the read I got during my read through and some ISO hunting.

But that so sounds like undigested, regurgitated Tituscum agenda...

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah, OK, I just looked at Kyubey who was replaced by CDB then pignash. That's a town slot.

[DrippingGoofball]

Town

DGB
Vedith
FAQ2
Performe
Pignash

Scum

IAI
Titus

The third scum is in:

Luna Fox

That's a pretty solid scum team guys, congrats on your future win. You earned it.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll double check if Luna Fox voting IAI is bus'ing or not, then I'll self-vote and hand you your win.

You're welcome.

[DrippingGoofball]

How many pages are you going to throw out something only to go back on it to try to justify IAI as scum?

Why do you care? You're scum, you won, I will hand you your win.

[DrippingGoofball]

If I was scum, why wouldn't I just lynch Performer?

LOL, I don't know, why aren't you? You can explain your scum motivation after the game is over!