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Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:08 am

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In post 2149, TheCow wrote:Yes, I'm down for the Cakez lynch. He's pretty much confirmed scum.

When can we lynch this?
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Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:15 am

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Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:24 pm

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I'd lynch Cakez, he was my original scumread.
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Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:18 am

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In post 2152, pistachi0n wrote:I'd lynch Cakez, he was my original scumread.

Of course you would, you're probably scum.
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Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:44 am

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Who
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Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:46 am

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Viva, Ranger, myself, and then one of the remaining four.
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Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:02 pm

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Viva are we ever going to see your thoughts you were about to offer up to Ranger before she decided you were possibly scum?
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Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:11 pm

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Also, umm. Hmm. Need to fact check ranger on all the cakez stuff. Other than the vca/NKA stuff of course, which *can* be faked as he seems to think it is, but. I kinda don't think scum would just focus all their efforts on deliberately setting up a mislynch on a single slot on particular in LYLO. Kinda a too many eggs in one basket sorta thing.

Also, what defense of cakez have you seen me make ranger? The first paragraph of this post is the first thing I've said that's meant to suggest we shouldn't lynch him in particular. I just think Karnage and TheCow are more likely to be scum. Speaking of Karnage....is meta really the main reason for your read on him? Nothing else based wholly on this game?
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Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:31 pm

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In post 2154, TheCow wrote:Who
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You aren't.
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Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:32 pm

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Cerberus v666 wrote:Also, what defense of cakez have you seen me make ranger?
To name a few? , , very strongly , , among others.
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Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:34 pm

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Also,
Speaking of Karnage....is meta really the main reason for your read on him? Nothing else based wholly on this game?
Absolutely not. Karnage's play this game has been all sorts of town. The point I had of concern was checking Karnage's contribution levels, to see if the level I was seeing would potentially be a scum-indicator when all other indications said town. I did so, and found a strong contrast, reaffirming the already-existing evidence: Karnage is town.
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Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:23 pm

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Eh, today's the leap year. If the game ends, it'd be interesting to see what Day In History Drixx uses.

VOTE: SirCakez.

I'll risk it.
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Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:30 pm

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Don't be fucking Firebringer.

Please.
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Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:37 pm

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RANGER.
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Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:38 pm

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I don't think Sircakez is scum and I've had absolutely no issues pinning him as scum in the past.

Why the hell are you townreading Pistachi0n?
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Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:39 pm

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I'm not pulling a Firebringer.

This is an informed decision.

Everyone has checked in.
Everyone has provided their thoughts.
I did
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Everything I've read tells me Karnage and TheCow are both town.

I don't see any combination where SirCakez is not scum.
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Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:42 pm

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Viva La Gloria wrote:Why the hell are you townreading Pistachi0n?
Honestly if I'm wrong about you being scum then it'd be pistachi0n as the third, which is why I'm advocating lynching Cerberus tomorrow because he's a safer bet for scum than you would be.

Yet there is no scum team where SirCakez is town. Not that I can see. I've looked.

If this is the wrong decision, I will take full responsibility for the loss. I'm
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Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:47 pm

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Walk me through your Karnage townread.

I'm not feeling this.
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Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:47 pm

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I'm fully confident TheCow is town here. My read there will not budge.
Yonom looked town overall to me, and Karnage has continued to look town overall to me. I've liked what he's said and what he's seen.
That leaves four names for three scum.

And of them...we've got SirCakez, who
literally every single nightkill
points to. No scumteam would be this dedicated to framing a player for a lylo mislynch. None. Scum might make one kill for wifom. Maybe. At most I could see two. But all three? The simpler answer is instead scum perceived a threat from the players they nightkilled. SirCakez fits that mold better than any other player.
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Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:52 pm

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KickAssAndGiggle wrote:At this stage, my town suspicion on Cerberus is being shaken. I do suspect you are town, but I can't blindly agree with your read or reasoning, yet.
Btw, found this when looking at KAAG's iso.

KAAG's iso is almost entirely devoted to calling one slot scum (SirCakez), with the exception of Firebringer the D2 lynch. This is pretty much the only thing resembling suspicion on another player. I know it's not slam-dunk, he said he was re-evaluating his hard-townread, not really a true scumread, but: it makes sense for him to have died if he was on the right track of two scum. I think he was.
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Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:53 pm

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I mean I agree that the EE nightkill was weird.

But the D1 kill was on someone who was fairly universally townread and making an effort to solve the game. I could see it easily if the wagons were town-town.
As for KAAG, he was literally the most fucking obvious town person I have seen in my life. It doesn't take a desire to frame Sircakez to kill him.

I did find the EE kill somewhat questionable but that doesn't mean that Cakez is scum. Also, Cakez knew who I was from a while back apparently, and Cakez if he were scum would NEVER leave me alive knowing who I was.


KAAG's iso is almost entirely devoted to calling one slot scum (SirCakez), with the exception of Firebringer the D2 lynch. This is pretty much the only thing resembling suspicion on another player. I know it's not slam-dunk, he said he was re-evaluating his hard-townread, not really a true scumread, but: it makes sense for him to have died if he was on the right track of two scum. I think he was.


Or they were just hitting people who were obvtowning it up and hoping to hide among the nulls.
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Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Mon Feb 29, 2016 2:04 am

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In post 2168, Ranger wrote:Karnage has continued to look town overall to me. I've liked what he's said and what he's seen.

This is super vague reasoning.
And are you just going to ignore the like six posts in a row I made aimed at you a page or so back?
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Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:29 am

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Really not happy about this Sircakez vote.

I guess we just wait and see what happens.
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Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:32 am

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I kind of think Ranger has to be scum here now just because of how awful her reads are and it would follow the "scum use night kills as evidence to push mislynch" theory I've had all game.
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Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Mon Feb 29, 2016 9:39 am

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I figure on the off chance cakez was town, scum would have jumped in for the quickhammer by now.

lets lynch scum

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