Gistou (Over!)

[dramonic]

I don't care what order we lynch them in.
If we lynch WT first will you stay quiet?

It's worth a shot

[Tim]

The reason I did that ISO was to find out why WT are being scumread, since the divide between those townreading and scumreading the slot is quite deep. I looked at 1434 (which was cited as a major reason for the scumread) and the positions taken there are pretty reasonable. If the argument about that post was that it's too narrowly focused, that might be valid, but I don't buy into the notion that this post falls short of making points. I'm not too fond of the lack of followup on the points made there, but this game is already an excellent example of why lack of followup isn't AI by itself.

The more telling thing IMO is that the slot's overall focus is quite narrow and they seem to be actively avoiding the main controversies in the thread. This suggests trying to fly under the radar. So while the often-referenced 1434 isn't bad in its own right, the overall pattern is scummy.

So... are you going to vote them? Or are you still contemplating other options?

I actually think the opposite though. A narrow focus isn't of itself bad. It's difficult to make broad assessments in a 100 page game in 3 days. I certainly can't, but 1434 is just point-quote-point vomit, if you can stomach calling those "points"

[Heartless]

Heart, complete derail: What are your thoughts on RAM?

off the top of my head haven't said anything that i absolutely hate from them

let me take a look for a sec

spent some time w/ their recent posting... this is still where i am

the copper vote and the evaluation of dgb's entering reads is within reason

[dramonic]

hmmmm

[Heartless]

hmmmm

oh noes, the shade

but for realz, if u want to know why theyre on the "no touch list" it's b/c i think bins is pleasant and easy enough to play with to merit not touching on day 1 (just on its own)

(take the implications of that how you will...)

[dramonic]

hmmmm

oh noes, the shade

but for realz, if u want to know why theyre on the "no touch list" it's b/c i think bins is pleasant and easy enough to play with to merit not touching on day 1 (just on its own)

(take the implications of that how you will...)

I asked before you provided your readlist actually, so that's unrelated.
I'm feeling super uneasy about their recent posting.

[Heartless]

but for realz, if u want to know why theyre on the "no touch list" it's b/c i think bins is pleasant and easy enough to play with to merit not touching on day 1 (just on its own)

*and competent enough to be useful regardless of alignment
(and there are several of those on my earlier list)

[Luna Fox]

yeah heartless still town.
Tim can also go into the townreads now.

[dramonic]

@Heart

[Heartless]

I asked before you provided your readlist actually, so that's unrelated.
I'm feeling super uneasy about their recent posting.

hm... you mean bins' skirmish with rb?

[No Retreat]

i know. i'm such a bitch.

but srsly analyzing the kuroi wagon like it's a single ball game and going on about "wagon composition" is pretty aggressively terrible

THANK YOU

someone give me bullet cases on WT and Copper. If I don't like those cases I'm lynching Kuroi or we could always flash wagon Celt and then lynch Storm when she flips scum.

[davesaz]

The reason I did that ISO was to find out why WT are being scumread, since the divide between those townreading and scumreading the slot is quite deep. I looked at 1434 (which was cited as a major reason for the scumread) and the positions taken there are pretty reasonable. If the argument about that post was that it's too narrowly focused, that might be valid, but I don't buy into the notion that this post falls short of making points. I'm not too fond of the lack of followup on the points made there, but this game is already an excellent example of why lack of followup isn't AI by itself.

The more telling thing IMO is that the slot's overall focus is quite narrow and they seem to be actively avoiding the main controversies in the thread. This suggests trying to fly under the radar. So while the often-referenced 1434 isn't bad in its own right, the overall pattern is scummy.

So... are you going to vote them? Or are you still contemplating other options?

I actually think the opposite though. A narrow focus isn't of itself bad. It's difficult to make broad assessments in a 100 page game in 3 days. I certainly can't, but 1434 is just point-quote-point vomit, if you can stomach calling those "points"

I'm disappointed that there was only one comment to that post, and it came from a null (properly speaking a "no read") instead of a townread. But I guess I'll take what I can get.
Yes, narrow isn't prima facie scummy in a superlarge. I didn't do a good job on putting the emphasis in the right place. They're ignoring controversial topics, the way I see it, and that's the important part as it shows a degree of laying low. More AI than merely lurking.

VOTE: WT

[Heartless]

@Heart

dw, i wont tell u if ur one of those if you want

[dramonic]

I asked before you provided your readlist actually, so that's unrelated.
I'm feeling super uneasy about their recent posting.

hm... you mean bins' skirmish with rb?

Yeah

EDIT: THAT IS SUCH A WEIRD STANCE THO @_@

[KuroiXHF]

i know. i'm such a bitch.

but srsly analyzing the kuroi wagon like it's a single ball game and going on about "wagon composition" is pretty aggressively terrible

THANK YOU

someone give me bullet cases on WT and Copper. If I don't like those cases I'm lynching Kuroi or we could always flash wagon Celt and then lynch Storm when she flips scum.

Did you call me a she?

[Luna Fox]

I think the she was referring to Celt.

[Wake1]

Alright, feeling ready to get into this massive game. IF there have been any claims could you share them here for my spreadsheet please?

[Luna Fox]

IF there have been any claims could you share them here for my spreadsheet please?

I have claimed non-human that wins with town, and being in a Neighborhood with other ppl that are either my same race and wincon or scum.
2 People have claimed and i confirmed being part of that Neighborhood, copper and Storm.
Molla has also claimed non-human that wins with town.
A50 has claimed a PGO style role (not exactly a PGO claim, but warning to not be targeted).

I think that's about all.

[Heartless]

EDIT: THAT IS SUCH A WEIRD STANCE THO @_@

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh come on dram

dont tell me there arent ppl you respect/like enough to not lynch d1

[Wake1]

So the important thing is that there's a Neighborhood with you, Copper, and Stormblade. Almost50 claimed a PGO-variant.

[Wake1]

At the moment I'm giving more credence to PR claims than flavor claims like race/nation/etc. Is there any benefit to revealing the flavor details in your role PM?

[Stormblade]

At the moment I'm giving more credence to PR claims than flavor claims like race/nation/etc. Is there any benefit to revealing the flavor details in your role PM?

Flavor text might help us decipher the various wincons/factions, which were left intentionally vague by mastin.

-Nahdia

[Wake1]

At the moment I'm giving more credence to PR claims than flavor claims like race/nation/etc. Is there any benefit to revealing the flavor details in your role PM?

Flavor text might help us decipher the various wincons/factions, which were left intentionally vague by mastin.

-Nahdia

Presuming you are Town, I'm assuming there's no reason not to disclose that. What's your take on that?

[Luna Fox]

So the important thing is that there's a Neighborhood with you, Copper, and Stormblade. Almost50 claimed a PGO-variant.

There's more than us 3, but i dont think it's particularly important to know those names right now, specially coz they'd also be non-human (either town or scum) and we all know how all the racial claims are bad as of now.

[Luna Fox]

Oh i also claimed to have slipped my role in the neighborhood at start because at first i thought it was a masonry, Storm and copper can attest to that, im not claiming my role here.