Gistou (Over!)

[rb]

I like how since Day 1 I wanted a WT and RAM lynch (so I'm obv not Isolationist) - I out Nosferatu (the player) as the most likely Cult Leader (so I'm obv not cult) and I was willing to lynch LLD (Wulden) and people are gonna vote me. Me thinking Mathblade (Wulden) was town was shit and that's fine if people agree with that but we had really good reason to think that race alone wasn't a good indicator of scum. Obviously it's a better indicator than I realised and we CAN to an extent trust it and it'll be more accurate than I thought. From Mastin's wording I really thought it was gonna be a total mixed bag but clearly Nosferatu/Wulden are decent indicators of likely scum.

How fucking coincidental that the "masons" in Rach/Wake want to lynch the person who called out the Cult Leader on Day 3 and that ASOIAF has also been on my case about me being likely "culted" since my call out on Nosferatu visiting her, when it turns out my suspicions were completely legit in the end and I was right that Nosferatu was cult leader.

Maybe ASOIAF isn't cult and she's uncultable, but wtf scum faction do people think I'm supposed to be? Only realistic choice is Wulden because I'm blatantly not Cult/Isolationist. So if you think my play is scummy, make a case because this shit is weak and I'll bet my left nut that either Rach/Wake claims are fake or ASOIAF claims are fake. If they aren't and you're town, pls stop being useless by pressuring my slot which has had more good reads and lynched more scum than any other slot in the game. Ty.

[RachMarie]

Once only I can turn someone into a nos as part of my faction and if it works (another word but paraphrasing here folks) then boom got a PT with them and they join me.

more or less that is what it says.

and individual Nos role blocker and my color is dark grey

I guess that means Im not of the dark side but because of my heritage I cant be totally light either

My personal powah is the full checker being able to check race, nation, or location, and the even more awesome role blocking powah that lets me block everything (but probably not strongman).

I have no killing ability either in faction or personally.

And I, and now Wake, win with town. There is nothing about either scum faction there which was why I was kinda clueless til we had flips from both teams.

[RachMarie]

umm then rb explain why Alexis wants you lynched?

(aka Exped)

[rb]

EBWOP: found more scum. I guess I "technically" haven't lynched them because they've been NK targets but I'm pretty sure that like 80% of the people I've wanted to lynch this game have turned out to be scum. Kthx.

[rb]

umm then rb explain why Alexis wants you lynched?

(aka Exped)

Probably because like I've been saying since Day1/2 they're scummy as all fuck?

[RachMarie]

and ahem I helped lynch LLD after blocking her
I checked RAM and had he not been killed in the night I would have pushed his lynch through

so yeah

I go back to why is my gf pushing YOUR lynch if you are not scumz

PEDIT how could Alexis be a scum role?

[Tim]

Tbh TWIE has a good chance to be a Wulden Race checker with the other candidate, Nosferatu, flipped cult leader.

[rb]

Like legit I haven't been able to get that much pull this game (except yesterday where we finally lynched the slot I wanted lynch from like not even halfway through Day1) and I have been in and out of people scumreading me, but feel free to check my scumreads against what's actually flipped and you'll see that apart from Mathblade blunder and thinking that Race =/= faction I've been pretty spot on. And yes I even admit Wulden faction looks possible from my slot, but you're gonna have to still explain why I'm scum and not town in the first place if you wanna make that case because technically, nearly everyone in this game has some kind of 'connection' to one of the scum factions we've seen flipped.

A lot of ppl townread Ceph/RAM/WT - but unless the isolationist faction had like 12 fkn people, there's obviously town players there too. Legit my biggest crime was that I thought Mathblade was town, though admittedly near the end of Day 3 (iirc) she started seeming weird AF to me, and I started pushing her about how she constantly just talks about mechanics all the time and never actually scumhunts like she says she wants everyone else to. I didn't build a full head of steam and there's ongoing games but I know Rach that you know what it means when I build a full head of steam :p

[rb]

and ahem I helped lynch LLD after blocking her
I checked RAM and had he not been killed in the night I would have pushed his lynch through

so yeah

I go back to why is my gf pushing YOUR lynch if you are not scumz

PEDIT how could Alexis be a scum role?

Wtf is an Alexis?

Are you talking about Expedience?

[rb]

Why is having the name Alexis supposed to make someone town? I'm lost?

[rb]

Oh fuck is this lovers? LOL

Lovers can be different alignments in this game, sadly.

[rb]

Or...maybe it depends on the mechanics, but flavour indicates that they can be. Which is also partly the reason I've been thinking race =/= alignment.

[Almost50]

@Tim:

If the two parents went against "tradition", then they would migrate to a new place. It makes perfect sense to me. And the Undead-Vampire hybrid is Lycans I think (not sure though).

So, unless there's another player who specifically belongs to the INDIVIDUAL HUMANS FACTION I'd say the chances of that claim being true is very high.

In fact, claiming nation (or even a mass claim) could very well solve this game here and now. There are probably 2-3 Wuldens alive (the 5th is if they got to recruit someone already) and 0-1 Isolationists + 0-2 Culted Humans. Worst case scenario is 6 Towns vs 6 Scum AND Town has 2 killing roles alive. This "worst case" is the only thing preventing me from demanding a mass claim already, bc if I was sure it's 7-5 or 8-4 I'd do it in a split of a second.

@rb:

Claim your nation, please. I do realize you're less likely to be scum, but you're not totally on the clear on my list.

P.S. I did a re-read of the whole thread fro D1/D2 to re-evaluate my reads.

@Tim (again):

LLD was the Wulden Race Checker. We're looking for their Champ, redirector and possible Tracker (or maybe "watcher")

[RachMarie]

Alexis is my gf

She helped the humans by bringing people together to fight the good fight against the nasties like Dimitri (leader of the Wulden faction). She was captured by him and tortured. She is the one behind the new treaty to make this place a better place where humans and the handful of us who don't want to kill humans can live in peace and harmony.

Yes I am paraphrasing .

No we are not lovers I have fully claimed I am not a lover just a one shot save a dudes life and he becomes part of my faction and we win with humans. And Wake was the one I saved. I am not sure but based on all the stuff I was given, had I checked dimitri I might have died or something, not sure on that though.

plus I can check all 3 (so a PR there)
and my stronger PR is I can block everything (though I think strongman trumps this so Im glad both maf team's strongmen are dead now).

[Almost50]

@rb:

SS was on WT all game too, and he was of the same faction of hers! That doesn't make much sense, but bussing IS a thing even in a game this large! You need better defense, but -honestly- I do feel like lynching TWIE before you anyway, and if your flavour info checks (Nation first, then we will see) I guess I can mechanically clear you, if only on my own list.

[Almost50]

@rb:

Actually, nation AND faction, please. If BOTH check with my table, you're off the hook.

[RachMarie]

what was Way's claim?

uggh grumble grumble I may have to wait to check ISOs til after wound care.

Hoping that the doc clears me on the compression bandages and we can switch over to compression socks which means no more running back and forth to wound care and I can be civilized again with stuffs

[Tim]

it seems from flavor they are lovers I think (Rach and Exp)

Not actual lovers. Alexis prolly town because MB's pm confirms his existence I believe, and that he's the undead leader. and the undead faction is pretty town (except again possibly bacde).

That said

I go back to why is my gf pushing YOUR lynch if you are not scumz

is impossible to defend. He's pushing me too for example.

p-edit: @Almost
the flavor bit is definitely the least of the problems; it's possible it was made up, but I can see mastin writing something like that potentially. Undead-vampire mix doesn't exist, not as lycan/Nosferatu/Wulden. You'd literally need two races in the race slot to make that ok. I feel like that isn't a thing.

LLD is not a Wulden Race Checker. Look at the PM again

[Tim]

Mathblade was their champ.

We're looking for something like salt squad

[RachMarie]

oh yeah

race Nos
location is div something which based on flavor seems to be some kind of forest region? Divitias it is.
nation is other


flavor not role though on the lovers I dont die if exped dies or vice versa Just there is a TON in my messages from the mod and role PM about how much I care about her and search to find her and feel guilty I was not strong enough to protect her stuff like that so mostly flavor.

[rb]

@rb:

Actually, nation AND faction, please. If BOTH check with my table, you're off the hook.

Trying to narrow down who to cult at night?

[RachMarie]

yeah nasty awful dimitri who captured and tortured Alexis was Mathblade


rb catch up Nos the player not the faction or the individuals was the cult leader read the flippin flips dude.

Nero shot Nos

[rb]

RachMarie I was already saying that Nosferatu the player was cult leader. What are you not reading in my PM?

Shit, I said he was the most likely cult leader since like Day 3 when I saw ASOIAF weird af play and then saw Nosferatu visited her (via Bacde's watcher)

Also are we gonna actually believe ASOIAF is a champion that just didn't get mentioned in Titus' flip about champion, when we saw ASOIAF get visited by the Cult Leader on N1? Really? Really? Really? Are we really gonna believe that? How much are we gonna believe it? Are you people fucking INSANE?

[rb]

Lol PM = post. Fuck I shouldn't post so much at 1am T_T

I didn't PM RachMarie outside game, to make it clear :/

[RachMarie]

no he did not

just to make sure that is clear.

1 am dude go get some sleep