Gistou (Over!)

[Salt Squad]

I am towny af why are you all coping me ;w;

[Luna Fox]

And even if you assume that everyone in the hood shares N/L i never said my free action was going inside the hood.

P-Edit: Mostly yes, but all of them no.

There is only so much I can do to prove you wrong here and you have to believe me because Klingon is scummy af.

I'm just debating the likelyhood of redirect and to boot on a target that shares a N/L with who i was scanning.

Bus driver changes a lot of things and i dont know how i didnt realize that.

Unlikely, as I nation copped SS and they said their nation is what I got.
-Nahdia

Are you even reading my posts?

SS: What do you think are the chances that you were targeted by a bus driver?

[Salt Squad]

Given Nahdia copped me like 10% chance and that would be stretching it.

[Salt Squad]

Wait what location did your cop yield it is literally a 0% chance depending on your answer.

[Salt Squad]

@Luna

[Stormblade]

I am towny af why are you all coping me ;w;

Well

I

wanted to cop RAM.

Are you even reading my posts?

SS: What do you think are the chances that you were targeted by a bus driver?

Uh, what makes you say that?
-Nahdia

[Luna Fox]

Ok, and redirect is also very unlikely to hit someone with the same nation as someone in my hood considering i mentioned targeting outside.

So im now on a 95% sure you're actually the result i got.

[Luna Fox]

Wait what location did your cop yield it is literally a 0% chance depending on your answer.

I didnt Location/Nation cop YOU, i used different targets, if i got redirected both of my scans would have been redirected to the same person.

Which means that i had to be very unlucky, to have been redirected to someone with the same nation as whoever i was scanning.

[Salt Squad]

Ok, and redirect is also very unlikely to hit someone with the same nation as someone in my hood considering i mentioned targeting outside.

So im now on a 95% sure you're actually the result i got.

If you did mention on targeting outside in your PT I won't blame you for lynching me here anymore tbh.

[Luna Fox]

Ok, and redirect is also very unlikely to hit someone with the same nation as someone in my hood considering i mentioned targeting outside.

So im now on a 95% sure you're actually the result i got.

If you did mention on targeting outside in your PT I won't blame you for lynching me here anymore tbh.

I did

[Salt Squad]

Wow this really sucks a lot :/

[Luna Fox]

Uh, what makes you say that?

read the hood, i put the info there, you can make your own decission.

[Luna Fox]

The only reason im not putting exactly what i did in here is because i dont want to go on outing people's location/nation for no reason, The information in here is good enough to make an informed decission.

[Luna Fox]

Maybe i should make a summary:

@everyone:

Salt Squad got targeted by me, returning Isolationist Faction. They are refusing being part of this faction.
I got mod confirmation that a scan on Kuroi would yield "Individual Vampires Faction"
We had a mass claim of nation/location on the hood.
My Nation/Location scan returned what my target claimed.
I claimed to be targeting outside of the hood, while in reality my faction cop was outside and the nation/location cop was inside.
Salt Squad got also targeted by Stormblade (as they claim) and also got a correct check, meaning the likelyhood of bus drive is really small.
With all this information the likelyhood of Redirection becomes smaller while not unlikely.

Im willing to go with Occam's Razor and say that i got that Faction, because that's their actual Faction.
But everyone is free to make their own informed decission based on this information.

[Salt Squad]

What is the likelyhood of a framer?

[Salt Squad]

Idk I am still feeling redirection and once I flip town everyone in Lna's hood needs rope.

[Tim]

Salt Squad got also targeted by Stormblade (as they claim) and also got a correct check, meaning the likelyhood of bus drive is really small.

I missed this. But that only goes to show there isn't likely to be a deflector or busdriver (ofc the fact Luna got a correct N/L check on one of her hood mates makes redirector less likely as well).

atm my lynch order is WT->Celt, but if neither happens I might have to bite my tongue on Salt

[Tim]

What is the likelyhood of a framer?

It's about as likely as anything else. which is to say not. But there is a limitless list of bullshit in role-heavy games that are all individually unlikely but maybe one of them could have happened. etc.

[Cephrir]

Well, SS is an alright lynch. I think there's a good shot of him being truthful that he's a vampire but I also think the risk that he's cult or something is very really and that's dangerous af to let live.
-Nahdia

A cult recruit really doesn't worry me and isn't worth a lynch. If ss turned out to be a cult recruit that's probably the only thing that could make me *not* want to lynch them.

[RAM]

Luna, you're making a pretty major assumption. You're assuming that any redirection would effect ALL actions you take. No reason at all why a redirect couldn't be limited to role only, rather than the check and role. I mean there's no reason to think it isn't everything either, but the fact that you got the proper result on Stormblade doesn't have any relation to the likelihood of your check on SS being accurate.

Really, I think people should judge based on SS' actual play and reaction to the result on him etc and decide whether they think he's town or scum based on that, rather than sheeping what is essentially an impure guilty.

If the game was without scummy slots, I'd be all for just defaulting to the mindless lynch, but...there actually are slots who are scum by play, and we should lynch them.

Nahdia: did you give up on building a case against my slot?

-Cerb

[Almost50]

@Storm, I lost the multiquote and am lazy: I need to consult the mod before I answer you.

Luna I have a question who inside A50 and TWIE is in your hood so we don't need to get people to honest claim human and get culted or fake claim and make scum hunting the redirector impossible.

See?? This PROOF that you're no reading. I ALREADY CLAIMED NORTHERN TRIBES FACTION. Do you think if I was in their with them they'd have let it go? All of them?? Oh, PLEASE!!

In that case, I reiterate my question to you: How did you know dramonic was part of a Private Topic? I assumed that was you slipping being in the Undead neighborhood, but since it apparently isn't then..??

I thought I already answered that, but in case I didn't: HE FLIPPED UNDEAD. Once he flipped, two of the neighbourhooud members confirmed their win con to be the same as him. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to deduce he was part of that PT, especially with [readacted] part in his role PM hinting he was informed of his own partners.

[Luna Fox]

Luna, you're making a pretty major assumption. You're assuming that any redirection would effect ALL actions you take. No reason at all why a redirect couldn't be limited to role only, rather than the check and role. I mean there's no reason to think it isn't everything either, but the fact that you got the proper result on Stormblade doesn't have any relation to the likelihood of your check on SS being accurate.

It's not an assumption it's stated on the mechanics post!
And every game where a player targets 2 ppl redirects affect both actions.

[Luna Fox]

Really, I think people should judge based on SS' actual play

SS play = giving up after realizing spinning the redirect possibility is impossible.

[RAM]

Yes and in every game EVERYTHING SINGLE SLOT is given a second action to take.

What are you saying about the mechanics post?

-Cerb

[Luna Fox]

This action counts for all role purposes, as a visit and can be blocked/fail.

^
Means it can also be affected by redirects.