Gistou (Over!)

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

the setup factions and races were to fitted on each other

mastian was refusing to give us a fake claim for race other and then I was like

we're fucking screwed this race checkers are alignment cops in this setup. the very basic assumption of mastian was people will listen to her and will assume all races may have good or bad people but it wasn't the case and people will go with the thing they can see in a pattern. it was obvious town would win with just lynching all not human / undead and stuff ... two godfathres was not really a problem in a setup with all these investigators. plus there was two alignment cops and a 5 player masonary in this game that I didn't even mentioned earlier

[Firebringer]

Count this is as a everyone wins.

[Cerberus v666]

Cheetory: most of those lynches were driven by guilties, which sorta deprives them of any merit. :p

Gotta target the right person to get a guilty.
Gotta leave PRs alive for them to drive guilties.
Gotta not have the multiball factions muddying the waters with fakeguilties either.

*shrug*

Just think that people should have known what they were getting into with how this game was advertised.

there were 8 town investigators and 4 confirmed town in a 28 player setup

not sure what are you trying to say cheet. this town was op.

Actually, based on mastins mod meta, the undead group should have been a masonry.

So there were arguably 10 conftown, just, again, town wasn't willing to put in the 10 seconds if research it would have taken to realize that.

[Cerberus v666]

Man, copper, you're right, I am an asshole in post games. :p

[Firebringer]

Man, copper, you're right, I am an asshole in post games. :p

aren't we all.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Better question: how many scum got lynched without guilties on them.

The answer to that question is 1.

yeah I missed that masonary in my first calculations

9 conftown

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I was at end game with 2 uncultable vigs and 2 naighboured people 1 with so many guilties on different people , 1 conftown and with rach how got conftown becuase she was nos and the way wake flipped!

I can hardly assume in any run of this game a scum wins.

[Frozen Angel]

Mastian you told me assume I could culted one of those conftown players successfully my faction would be op as well your plain wrong

there was too heat around the masonary , 3 vigs were uncultable , and dgb would get outed if culted anytime. there was no way for anyone else to live more than 3 vigs. what you expected scum to get for over powering this town is basically impossible

[McMenno]

Man, copper, you're right, I am an asshole in post games. :p

aren't we all.

help

[Cerberus v666]

(Even if they weren't masons, they were al effectively super lovers, since it could be reason a KY expected thst they wouldn't vote for one another, meaning on day 1 a lynch of undead would have required 15/23 non undead slots.)

For some reason I thought there were 6 indead. Ah well. Super masonry too, with the whole watcher+2xbp+race checker+cop PLUS AN EVERY OTHER DAY VIG thing they had going on.

Scum were very close to winning. A few mistakes were made.

[Frozen Angel]

Scum were very close to winning. A few mistakes were made.

Fucking Lol

[Cerberus v666]

I was about to say WTs kill on Mathblade killed our faction too, but arguably IF they had been prepared to actively play, they could have easily got nosferatu lynched that day and recruited thr next night.

It was only bad for our faction overall because it was followed by apathy.

Not saying the optimal play isn't recruiting, it is, you should always recruit at 1 member instead of risking just dyng to a random vig, but it didn't actually kill our faction the way WTs apathy did.

FA: you guys were one recruit away from controlling two night kills, allowing you to blow your way through the shields on the vigs, or just get to a majority fast enough to just end the game.

[Frozen Angel]

we had dave already.

we should have killed almost that night with wuldens , I can't remember why we didn't.

guess dave couldn't convince them for doing that? I cant remember

[Frozen Angel]

nero wasn't outed back then.

there was never chance for such opration

[SirCakez]

This game was pretty awesome. Thanks for modding mastin!

[Cerberus v666]

Yes, but Dave couldn't control use both kills himself. Better to have cult ed two members of that team on N5, killed rach with the wulden kill, thus confirming wake...then you cult wake, and have a "conftown" member. Could have left rach alive instead, but that's obviously a risk because of her known roleblock.

Gg, you win.

[Frozen Angel]

I couldn't really aim for that , Tim had so much tention on himself and almost was choosing between dave and him to kill that night.

so I decieded to just go with one of the rach / wake and kill the other using wulden faction. rach blocked me and it got screwed over with it. I was on vaction and had no time to analize what was she really trying to , I saw she mentioning dave is scummy multiple times and vigs were about to shoot me, plus I was already claimed other miller and stuff so I though she will go on dave or tim to block and race check cuase there was already one guilty on me! but apperantly she skimmed my miller claim and whetever was discussed that day ....

so we lost the game earlier! ehh

[Frozen Angel]

I still think putting vanillas in this setup is really bad.

this cult was rekt becuase of vanilla members mainly ...

[RachMarie]

Thank you all for a very challenging game wow. Thanks for the kudos too.

and I TOLD YOU SO NERO Thanks to Yume for hammering anyways

Gods, I kept going back and forth on Song, Toward the end though I was getting very concerned for Frozens RL health and well being since she is like 6 or 7 months pregnant. Girl taking a break is a GOOD idea, your focus right now is on you getting the rest and relaxation you need for you and your baby.

[Frozen Angel]

Thank you rach

I was trying to quit mafia for a while now! its just this game was sooo long lol

[RachMarie]

Dan's (Tim) rant when he lynched was too funny

Have not read the dead thread yet.

Seriously though this was a real challenging role for me, being town but not recognizable town basically. I went all out and played it like I was town all the way trying to keep from full role claiming as long as possible before it became clear it was time to recruit and get back up. I chose wisely I believe in Wake,

Thanks so much for being my good buddy Wake I don't think I could have pulled it off without you.

[Frozen Angel]

I have no idea how I survived 5 phases after getting confirmed cult. my claim was absolute trash lol

with a good mixture of ATE I guess I mentally paralized your logic centers . I only died because of getting POE'd lol

#Last_Scum_Standing

[Frozen Angel]

If I couldn't talk with mastin in cult thread about my feelings I would explode I guess



but no rb ; I was unluckier than you definitely.

[Frozen Angel]

I mean mastian told us whoever gets culted is Unluckiest of all!

she designed the game in a way to make sure no scum can win and whoever got culted were screwed! (just joking)

[Cerberus v666]

Fa, you're right that you guys couldn't have controlled the wulden because of Dave's deafh, but you still shoulda made sure rach died. Too big a risk to your endgame.