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Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:00 am**

Exp, what was your reasoning for you scumread on us?

I see what Luna is saying.

I feel all your scumreads have no actual reasoning.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:01 am**

Oh. Okay. Dram is defending Exp. I am slow to understand what people are actually talking about/motivated by.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:02 am**

In post 1224, Expedience wrote:
In post 1219, Luna Fox wrote:Although i admit i never saw the "pretending to scumread him" reason like ever before, FmPoV he was just scumreading me without reason thoughout all game and only gave a reason when he misrepresneted my post to spin it like it was OMGUS
So why did you unvote me?

I already explained that before.
I was scumreading you because i believed that scum wanted me dead due to me slipping my role in a place where i didnt realize scum could be and they got that info, and shortly after you started scumreading me.
But this logic doesnt match if you're the only one doing so.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:02 am**

In post 1202, RAM wrote:This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.

This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:03 am**

In post 1225, RAM wrote:Exp, what was your reasoning for you scumread on us?

I see what Luna is saying.

I feel all your scumreads have no actual reasoning.

Because of what you said about Nahdia, actually. And I didn't like the posts that Cerb made really.

It does have reasoning, the reasons are specific posts. I'm going to make more of an effort to be transparent now.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:03 am**

By that I mean the same thing about excessive and jumpy emotion actually applies to you more than it does Nahdia.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:06 am**

In post 258, RAM wrote:Also, how the fuck is this a beaver?

I have made a promise that every post I make will be worth your time to read. Therefore, I will share my townread on BBMolla and my slight scumread on Copper and a mild townread on Luna Fox but I hope to have that read cleared up in due time. I'm on like page 5, though.

I'm going tryhard this game for Drixx and Cerb. Please notice me.

~Bins again.

pedit - pls notice me pls

This is such a scummy post.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:07 am**

In post 1228, Expedience wrote:
In post 1202, RAM wrote:This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.
This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.

This... was way after you stated a scumread on us. Please, try again.

Also, that's literally what I do. All the damn time. Explain what I'm thinking and then explain why I'm thinking that way. Do not mistake trying to be cool and trying to fit in as a scummy thing.

p-edit - So, it was me explaining my thought process, my paranoia on Nadhia, and Cerb's posts. Okay. Got it. Reasons, but none that are actually heavy.

ppedit - Okay, I can actually see your logic in this one. But trust me that is again just me trying to fit in and be cool and look edgy.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:09 am**

In post 1231, Expedience wrote:
In post 258, RAM wrote:Also, how the fuck is this a beaver?

I have made a promise that every post I make will be worth your time to read. Therefore, I will share my townread on BBMolla and my slight scumread on Copper and a mild townread on Luna Fox but I hope to have that read cleared up in due time. I'm on like page 5, though.

I'm going tryhard this game for Drixx and Cerb. Please notice me.

~Bins again.

pedit - pls notice me pls
This is such a scummy post.

What? How?!

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:09 am**

yeah ok

VOTE: Almost50

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:10 am**

Uhh if i may interject i think jumpyness is more of a personality trait ^_^;;

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:15 am**

triviaThe world of Agnigi, thanks primarily to the Western Empire, is loosely at steampunk level of technology. Trains run a plenty, but the world is still not tame.

Eighth Votecount

:

Expedience - 5 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt, Mathblade, davesaz)

Wayward Thinker - 4 (dramonic, Salt Squad, rb, TheWayItEnds)

Almost50 - 2 (Heartless, Cephrir)
rb - 1 (Wayward Thinker)
Heartless - 1 (copper223)
Cane + Able - 1 (Titus)
Stormblade - 1 (A Song of Ice and Fire)
davesaz - 1 (No Retreat)
Titus - 1 (BBMolla)
Luna Fox - 1 (Expedience)
TheWayItEnds - 1 (KuroiXHF)

Not Voting - 9 (Almost50, Cane + Able, Tim, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky, Luna Fox)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

Expedience

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 911, page 37.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:21 am**

In post 1236, mastin2 wrote:Not Voting - 9 (Almost50, Cane + Able, Tim, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky, Luna Fox)

It would be helpful if you guys voted for someone.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:23 am**

In post 1029, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 996, Expedience wrote:
In post 838, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 829, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:someone explain why they felt the aggression and calling so many people scum is scummy
Because he's been calling me scum
for no reason
and i don't like that
No, this is why Luna Fox is voting me.

"Because he's accusing me and when I'm town I OMGUS people "
Fixed that for you.
Maybe just maybe if you want to ML people you should at least try to read their posts you know.

Yes, but you don't actually think that I'm scum. You just don't like it when people call you scum, and the first reason that bring up is that you don't like being voted, not that you think it's a scumtell or anything.

It's as if you gave an RVS justification for a vote that's supposed to be serious and that's scummy as fuck.

In post 1050, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1033, Expedience wrote:Yes except for the game where I played with your main and basically trolled, didn't explain my read on you at all and you got upset about it.
Isn't that the blitz game where you were scum.
In post 1033, Expedience wrote:You're blatantly lying about your meta knowledge of my play to accuse me of being scum, and you're scum.
Blatantly lying? no, Misremembering maybe, I don't go fact check everytime I remember something. And I'm all ears and open to your explanations i've been all game, yet you still haven't explained a single thing about your scumread on me.

This is complete bullshit, we have played 3 games and you somehow only managed to remember the one from like a year ago, and claimed that it was the only game. You're clearly pretending to misremember.

You probably forgot that I knew who your main was, and thought you could get away with lying. You are deliberately faking your understanding of my meta and that basically confirms you as scum. Like, it's an explicit thing.

You could not say this in earnest after saying things like this in the past.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:24 am**

In post 1233, RAM wrote:
In post 1231, Expedience wrote:
In post 258, RAM wrote:Also, how the fuck is this a beaver?

I have made a promise that every post I make will be worth your time to read. Therefore, I will share my townread on BBMolla and my slight scumread on Copper and a mild townread on Luna Fox but I hope to have that read cleared up in due time. I'm on like page 5, though.

I'm going tryhard this game for Drixx and Cerb. Please notice me.

~Bins again.

pedit - pls notice me pls
This is such a scummy post.
What? How?!

LAMISTy, extremely overly wordy. At least Nahdia just repeated the same thing over and over.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:26 am**

In post 1207, RAM wrote:This is a pretty disgusting post, though.

Why do you think that?

A pokes B
B yells
A scumread B for yelling
B yells some different stuff
A scumreads B for yelling different stuff

It's pretty damn clear to me that the problem here was A poking B.

A reveals that he has purposefully poked B before.

Not a bad conclusion that A did it on purpose here too.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:26 am**

In post 1235, Luna Fox wrote:Uhh if i may interject i think jumpyness is more of a personality trait ^_^;;

No, I definitely agree.

Exp, you're misunderstanding me. The jumpiness is not the scummy part. It's the faking of the jumpiness to look genuine that's the scummy part. Currently, I'm going to dismiss both Nadhia and Heartless' jumpiness/wordiness as genuine (and like I said, especially Heart, because I think that's just Antihero) for now because I currently like their reads/the content of their posts. It was just something I like noting because it is something I see in my own play.

I don't think jumpiness is scummy at all. I just think it's an easy out for scum. Fakeable like I said in my first post.

pedit - not seeing it?

@Dav - I just thought it looked like overjustification. Maybe it is just you.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:27 am**

I am not pretending to misremember, whether you believe that or not is irrelevant to me.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:27 am**

In post 1228, Expedience wrote:
In post 1202, RAM wrote:This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.
This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.

The fuck?

Clarity is NEVER a bad thing.

Unless you're scum.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:29 am**

@RAM Not sure which head that is -- but it's well known that I'm primarily a logic guy -- just not quite well known enough I guess.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:30 am**

In post 1243, Cane + Able wrote:
In post 1228, Expedience wrote:
In post 1202, RAM wrote:This is mainly so that I express my paranoia of certain town reads I have before it comes up later and I flail around a bunch about how they are freaking the beejesus out of me.
This is overexplanatory and describing your own thought process unprompted is a scumtell.
The fuck?

Clarity is NEVER a bad thing.

Unless you're scum.

Your first impulse is correct. Clarity isn't a bad thing. I think it's applicable here. Sometimes word vomit is scum indicative like Experience is saying. The catch is this isn't word vomit.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:31 am**

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Almost50

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:31 am**

@Expedience, you quoted my question in a reply to someone else but never addressed it.

Why are you concerned about, what was the term, vague posting from one person (the post I asked you about) but not from other people (the 2nd one where I asked why you didn't respond to it).

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:32 am**

In post 1237, Stormblade wrote:
In post 1236, mastin2 wrote:Not Voting - 9 (Almost50, Cane + Able, Tim, RAM, Lady Lambdadelta, Skybird, Toogeloo, Franky, Luna Fox)
It would be helpful if you guys voted for someone.

Agreed.

RAM, being Cerb and Drixx will likely not vote though.

Posted: **Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:32 am**

Oh, here's a better way of wording it (sorry, English is not my first language blah blah blah I usually have to repeat myself):

Jumpiness is faked by scum because it is SEEN in town play. That's the only reason it's faked in the first place. Because geniuneness is towny. I'm not going to deny that I'm emotionally flipfloppy and shit because yeah, I am.

Anyways, this discussion is sort of pointless lmfao because I'm not actually scumreading Nadhia or Antihero at all. But I feel I still need to explain it.

@Dav - it's Bins. Like your defense.

Sorting people. Feelsgood.

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