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Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 pm**

In post 2145, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2142, Stormblade wrote:this game has 28 people. the hell did u guys expect?
There are three people with close to or over 200 posts.

Is it normal to make 200 posts by now in day one? Some players don't even make 200 posts in a fucking GAME.

I mean, some people just post constantly as long as there's content to respond to. So yeah, it doesn't surprise me that some players are going ham on their postcounts.

-Nahdia

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:36 pm**

In post 2148, Stormblade wrote:really not impressed with the "let's lynch people that aren't doing stuff" attitudes we're seeing. seems lazy to me. people will get their bearings in time.

LLD, why don't you ISO a few of the main wagons and tell us what you think. Namely; Kuroi, Wayward, and Expedience.

-nahdia

Isolation will only get me a brief view of their intent, since I struggle to know any of the relevant events occuring in the game.

I'm asking for a person to hold my hand and direct me, as strange as that is, because otherwise I'm going to keep watching that post count tick up, and my attitude towards this game is going to continue to sink into apathy.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:39 pm**

Once I changed my mind about his alignment I wanted to have a closer look at those voting for him, I've been skimming posts from players that are new or mostly unreadable to me to try and play despite the technical limitations and given the eagerness of some of the players to post. It still is a work in progress.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:40 pm**

In post 2149, Titus wrote:@LLD, Your thoughts and reads? Or are you going to bitch slap me? I can put you on ignore if you're just going to yell Titus sucks with no direction to improve.

I have none, except I didn't like how Luna Fox reacted to my vote on her, so I confirmed it to try and get some more reactions.

Then got apathetic again.

I honestly don't care what you think or do, Titus. Genuinely just don't. I know you'll never take advice, so.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:41 pm**

In post 2151, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2148, Stormblade wrote:really not impressed with the "let's lynch people that aren't doing stuff" attitudes we're seeing. seems lazy to me. people will get their bearings in time.

LLD, why don't you ISO a few of the main wagons and tell us what you think. Namely; Kuroi, Wayward, and Expedience.

-nahdia
Isolation will only get me a brief view of their intent, since I struggle to know any of the relevant events occuring in the game.

I'm asking for a person to hold my hand and direct me, as strange as that is, because otherwise I'm going to keep watching that post count tick up, and my attitude towards this game is going to continue to sink into apathy.

OK, that's fair. Honestly there's not much that has happened in terms of "notable events." Luna and I ended up claiming that we're part of a separate faction that is town friendly. BBmolla had his weird claim at the very beginning of the game I'm guessing you saw. Besides that it's possible I missed stuff but it's mostly been people arguing about reads. The Expedience wagon which I started you can find an early case for here: 578.

My understanding of the Kuroi wagon is that Kuroi is being relatively useless but that seems lazy especially considering a lot of people fall under that. Titus may be able to explain it better; it's her push.

Not sure what the push on Wayward is. I missed that part.

-Nahdia

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:41 pm**

In post 2129, dramonic wrote:@Dave: I've given reason for why those quotes are town literally one post earlier.

You said they have a town mindset, generically.
I want something specific about each post that says it is a town mindset.
Not general
Each post.
Man up.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:41 pm**

I've done a lot of skipping as well since I didn't even plan to be in this game >_> but hopefully i helped a bit.

-nahdia

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:43 pm**

Great.

On the off chance you're town, I'll do a daily readwall for benchmarks with linked post numbers. Maybe it will help, maybe it won't. I don't like the idea of you floundering though but the game speed is not likely to get slower until day 2.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:45 pm**

In post 2152, copper223 wrote:Once I changed my mind about his alignment I wanted to have a closer look at those voting for him, I've been skimming posts from players that are new or mostly unreadable to me to try and play despite the technical limitations and given the eagerness of some of the players to post. It still is a work in progress.

but... how does that fit in w/ multiball?
as in how do you think that's particularly helpful information here?

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:48 pm**

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Kuroi

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:48 pm**

reasoN: just cause

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:50 pm**

In post 1858, RAM wrote:I dislike stormblade entirely because of ABR's apathy, but Titus is correct in that it's NAI.

?????????

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:51 pm**

In post 2161, Expedience wrote:
In post 1858, RAM wrote:I dislike stormblade entirely because of ABR's apathy, but Titus is correct in that it's NAI.
?????????

You can dislike something and realize it's NAI.

LLD dislikes the rate of posting, but she's not calling everyone scum.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:54 pm**

In post 2158, Heartless wrote:
In post 2152, copper223 wrote:Once I changed my mind about his alignment I wanted to have a closer look at those voting for him, I've been skimming posts from players that are new or mostly unreadable to me to try and play despite the technical limitations and given the eagerness of some of the players to post. It still is a work in progress.
but... how does that fit in w/ multiball?
as in how do you think that's particularly helpful information here?

The things the voters are looking at are often different depending on their alignment and it'easier to see when you ideally know or in this case suspect they are wrong.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:59 pm**

In post 1171, Stormblade wrote:
In post 1168, Titus wrote:The more you try to control people, the more we rebel and don't listen.
I had absolute control over that game but for a strongman kill that fucked up my protection.

*whistles innocently*

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:00 pm**

triviaWuldens, by virtue of the process creating them, automatically begin to take on the appearance of the most fierce lycans. However, instead of the natural brown (or rare black), their skin and fur take on the deathly palor of the undead, turning into a pale, ghostly gray. This monstrous form is why wuldens are, in the world of Gistou, akin to demons on earth: they're absolutely

terrifying

to see, and nearly impossible to kill.

Sixteenth Votecount

:

KuroiXHF - 10 (Wayward Thinker, Titus, Heartless, copper223, Luna Fox, No Retreat, Cephrir, Salt Squad, Toogeloo, BBMolla)

Wayward Thinker - 5 (dramonic, rb, TheWayItEnds, Tim, KuroiXHF)

Expedience - 5 (Stormblade, Nosferatu, Klingoncelt, davesaz, Mathblade)
Stormblade - 1 (A Song of Ice and Fire)
Heartless - 1 (Almost50)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
Franky - 1 (DrippingGoofball)
RAM - 1 (Expedience)

Not Voting - 3 (RAM, Franky, Cane + Able)

With

28

alive, it takes

15

to lynch.

Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,

KuroiXHF

would be lynched.

Extras

Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount

Last votecount was post 2076, page 84.

Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1

Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:01 pm**

In post 2136, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2124, Heartless wrote:if lld does not come in here and do shit i would not be opposed to lynching her
I asked someone to help run me through things, and checked several pages of posts after.

No help.

so one more fucking time, I am not reading 2000 posts. I've been in this game under 48 hours. I feel like I've replaced into a fucking game on day 5.

If you want me to help, then fucking give me things to give opinions on, direct me. Use me as a bloodhound, IDGAF.

But don't tell me to "get in here and do shit" when fucks like you have made it literally cancer to try and do so.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:02 pm**

In post 2101, MathBlade wrote: @Albert you had questions for me?

How u been

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:06 pm**

<<< Official word has been given. Wake88 replaces Cane + Able effective immediately.
It would be poor sportsmanship to discuss this manner, so I mean it: I will replace anyone who does. Game continues as normal otherwise. >>>

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:14 pm**

In post 2068, Titus wrote:Dram was skipping. Dgb says you're unreadable.

Let's say you'll never ever be convinced on Expedience. Saying it so loud so early says Math will never work with me, why would I work with her? The tunnels are also a good place to hide if you're scum as you naturally avoid anything inconsistent with that opinion. Given the yellow foxes and purple flying monkeys, no one knows the strategic setup.

I am not telling you to lie and pretend you think Expedience is town and I am not scum. What you cannot do is pick a read and center your whole universe on it being right. You have to be open to others. Right now, no one thinks you are open to others at all. It's why I have given no effort to our dialogue.

People are never going to be receptive if you are not. Constant insistence on one lynch in 28 players doesn't work. You need to sort Kuroi and Cane and these other events.

Or I am ignoring you.

In post 2072, Titus wrote:P.s. Dgb and dram are both obvtown. There's a few reads I would fight DGB on, but we largely agree. I'm frustrated she's not voting Kuroi, but I have faith she will or Kuroi will obvtown.

Working with others is key.

If you're going to talk about working together with others, don't post seemingly unshakeable reads like two posts later. Especially considering DBG has done nothing but post "X is town" "Y is town" and I can't remember anything dram has posted outside of the page I happened to be reading just now.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:16 pm**

In post 2091, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2086, dramonic wrote:Expedience is town.
The reason is that his mindset is that of town.
Now evaluate that argument or whatever it is you wanna do.
Why would town do two naked votes?

What specifically makes you say their mindset is town?

naked votes aren't actually that scummy, that's just something people like to say

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:18 pm**

My DGB read is shakable if circumstances show it to be. DGB posts naked read walls like that. Would I like more detailed thoughts? Of course. Yet, we agree on 75% - 85% (ish) of our reads, minus the lynch candidates. She's doing what I did when I hated all the wagons. She matches her town meta. It's not my preferred style but DGB is usually better with fewer words.

She's obvtown to me not conftown.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:21 pm**

Dram is a weaker townread but still pretty town. I don't like the disagreement and I don't get his reads, but his overall frustration and effort appear rather townie. I understood his jafar comment once he said it.

Again, not unshakable but I do like how Dram appears ATM. I want to try and understand him.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:25 pm**

In post 2171, Titus wrote:My DGB read is shakable if circumstances show it to be. DGB posts naked read walls like that. Would I like more detailed thoughts? Of course. Yet, we agree on 75% - 85% (ish) of our reads, minus the lynch candidates. She's doing what I did when I hated all the wagons. She matches her town meta. It's not my preferred style but DGB is usually better with fewer words.

She's obvtown to me not conftown.

I guess I just don't think you should offer that up so easily.

Also in light of LLD's posts I have realized I am being a problem not a solution.

Posted: **Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:25 pm**

<<< By the way, if you have ANY concern with ANY player, or any trend players (not just one player in specific) are showing, feel free to either speak up or contact me privately! I WILL try to help with your concern. I can't solve every problem, but some I may be able to address!
This, of course, obviously also applies to me: if you have any concerns with my policies as a moderator, I will listen to them. If you have concerns about the game, I may not be able to answer them, but if I can I will try. >>>

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