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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:50 pm
by Klingoncelt
In post 3416, Almost50 wrote:
In post 3372, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 3370, Almost50 wrote:I'm asking Luna to confirm he is in that PT alongside the claimed 3 members,
Why would i confirm something like that whether true or false?
In post 3370, Almost50 wrote:as well as tell us if there any other members w/o outing who they are.
Why are you interested in this information?
1- Because he already claimed something similar to you, duh! If he's not in your PT he's highly suspicious. Do you think we have TWO non-human groups who are both aligned with town?

2- Same reason, but in reverse. If there are only 4 of you then you only have 1 scum in the PT. If you have like 6 you may have 2 or even 3 (of different factions though). It would make it easier for me to pick the odd one out if there were only 4 of you than it would be to pick the 2/3 out of 6/7/8 (although I feel like I'm stretching it with 8 in one PT I think there should be 4-6 in there).

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:56 pm
by Klingoncelt
Mastin, could you delete my previous post 3650, please? I accidentally submitted without doing anything.


<<< While I believe you, this would be overstepping my boundaries as a moderator, sorry. >>>

In post 3416, Almost50 wrote: Do you think we have TWO non-human groups who are both aligned with town?
I do, either that or there's a Town-friendly and a Benign Neutral group.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:01 pm
by Klingoncelt
In post 3430, MathBlade wrote:Don't have time to read all this before I go but we have more than 10 days. Vote Titus please while I am away. I hope to come back to a Titus lynch
Ahh, now that's the MathBlade I remember!

And, no, I'm voting someone else today.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:05 pm
by Wake1
I think the point is that we have various groups whose alignment may be one way or another. As Mastin mentioned there would be players who share flavor similarities that may not actually want what you want. Out of curiosity, when all of you were given your Role PMs did any of them include "Town?" What I'm wanting to understand is if there's even a general "Town" in this game, or if it's just multiple competing/aligned groups and subgroups and 1-2 evil groups AMONG them.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:11 pm
by dramonic
:cry:

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:19 pm
by Klingoncelt
In post 3467, Salt Squad wrote:
In post 3354, Klingoncelt wrote:
Would it help if I listed everyone that pinged my scumdar?
A Song of Ice and Fire
BBMolla
Dramonic
Expedience
Kuroi
No Retreat
Titus
Wayward Thinker
this is just an OMGUS list
Klingon into the scum pile

-sc
Actually, it's not OMGUS, there are "reasons." Also, note that I used the word "pinged." I don't see
everyone
on that list as hardcore Scum. Just suspicious, mostly.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:22 pm
by Klingoncelt
In post 3479, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3472, rb wrote:So there's 3 lynches that I'm happy with, this thread has reached to almost page 150. Even if it's Day 1, it's not a normal Day 1. I feel like there's more than enough interactions to do a good VCA and get a lot of information from Night 1 flips.
VCA is pure shit

just saying

~Ice
Further into the game it's useful if it's done by someone that knows how to do it.

Day1 VCA is a smokescreen made from burning bullshit.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:25 pm
by Wake1
I wonder what would happen if I voted one of these players who know I posted something but seemingly pretend it isn't there...

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:39 pm
by dramonic
I tend to ignore role fishing attempts.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:44 pm
by Wake1
I tend to ignore idiots but it doesn't always work.

Snark aside, you know as well as I do that that wasn't role fishing, unless you think 'Town' is somehow now a role rather than a general alignment.

You can go sit down now.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:49 pm
by dramonic
...
The primary town faction is most likely comprised exclusively of humans.
Ya know, the exact targets of the advertised recruits in the first post?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:00 pm
by Wake1
My theory is that there is no "Town."

As Mastin pointed out there are multiple groups broken down along nation, location, and race. He said you can't base alignment on flavor.

Throw out the notion that being Human = not being Scum. There is no Town: just differing factions that may be aligned or at war with one another.

We shouldn't be thinking of this game in a strictly Town vs Scum mindset, because there is no Town in this game. You can be part of a tribe, a nation, or a location but that doesn't necessarily mean you're aligned. I'm guessing the Scum faction(s) would know who each other are (informed minority), and may be able to communicate in private.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:01 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
In post 3642, Stormblade wrote:man.

on one hand, i love saying "I told ya so". On the other hand, I've been painfully wrong plenty of times before, and I'd be down with that being the case again.

-Nahdia
this is painfully scummy nahdia

@wake no it doesn't include "town" in the role pm , but when I asked mastin about what it means he confirmed its a "town" role pm . sure he will confirm that to whoever has the same faction as me. not sure what you wanna say and I really don't care about it.

~Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:02 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
she* s dropped I know mastin is a she

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:02 pm
by Stormblade
In post 3662, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3642, Stormblade wrote:man.

on one hand, i love saying "I told ya so". On the other hand, I've been painfully wrong plenty of times before, and I'd be down with that being the case again.

-Nahdia
this is painfully scummy nahdia

@wake no it doesn't include "town" in the role pm , but when I asked mastin about what it means he confirmed its a "town" role pm . sure he will confirm that to whoever has the same faction as me. not sure what you wanna say and I really don't care about it.

~Ice
You're free to think so, but I make statements like this aaaaalllllll the time.

-Nahdia

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:02 pm
by Wake1
See, mine doesn't have 'Town' in it either.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:04 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
In post 3664, Stormblade wrote:You're free to think so, but I make statements like this aaaaalllllll the time.
thats why I want your other heads to talk to me. cuase their easier to read. :igmeou:

~Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:04 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
In post 3665, Wake1 wrote:See, mine doesn't have 'Town' in it either.
mastin confirmed its town when I asked her.

~Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:05 pm
by dramonic
In post 3661, Wake1 wrote:Throw out the notion that being Human = not being Scum.
I'm not positing that human = not scum.
I'm positing that primary town faction = human.
There's a major difference.

Wether said primary town exists is another question altogether.


EDIT: I could lynch Ice right now.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:06 pm
by Luna Fox
In post 3668, dramonic wrote:EDIT: I could lynch Ice right now.
Why?

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:06 pm
by Wake1
In post 3667, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3665, Wake1 wrote:See, mine doesn't have 'Town' in it either.
mastin confirmed its town when I asked her.

~Ice
So as I thought it doesn't have the word 'Town' in the Role PMs, but it's presumed to be Town.

In that case these groups serve as multiple 'Towns,' with different connections.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:07 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
In post 3668, dramonic wrote:EDIT: I could lynch Ice right now.
why cuase I'm saying you may ask the mod about whats the meaning of your faction win con in your role pm?

or cuase I'm town? cuase you love lynching town only if your scum

~Ice

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:09 pm
by mastin2
Image
KuroiXHF is at L-2.

triviaIt is unknown how the endless seas on the edge of Agnigi work. If water was flowing freely from the great lake to the Divitias into the endless oceans without a method of coming back, then the endless cycle wouldn't be so endless. However, snowfall from the Erimos Range and northern lands flows into the lake. This has given rise to the "widdershins theory": that the water flows into the ocean, evaporates, travels north, and freezes, falling. This theory would explain why the lands west of the divitias and south of the erimos range are largely desert: the cycle never reaches them.

Twenty-fourth Votecount
:
KuroiXHF - 13 (DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience, RAM, Salt Squad, Cephrir, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz, Tim)

Wayward Thinker - 5 (dramonic, rb, Nosferatu, BBMolla, Klingoncelt)

Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)
Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)
Expedience - 1 (Stormblade)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (KuroiXHF)
Titus - 1 (Mathblade)

Not Voting - 3 (Franky, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)

With
28
alive, it takes
15
to lynch.
KuroiXHF is at L-2.


Day 1's deadline is Tuesday, August 2nd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-02 21:00:00).
At deadline,
KuroiXHF
would be lynched.

Extras
Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount
(+1)
KuroiXHF - 13 (DrippingGoofball, Luna Fox, Titus, A Song of Ice and Fire, No Retreat, Expedience, RAM, Salt Squad, Cephrir, Heartless, Toogeloo, davesaz,
Tim
)
(-1)
Wayward Thinker - 5 (dramonic,
Tim
, rb, Nosferatu, BBMolla, Klingoncelt)
(=0)
Heartless - 2 (Almost50, copper223)
(=0)
Klingoncelt - 1 (Wayward Thinker)
(=0)
Expedience - 1 (Stormblade)
(=0)
Luna Fox - 1 (Lady Lambdadelta)
(=0)
A Song of Ice and Fire - 1 (KuroiXHF)
(=0)
Titus - 1 (Mathblade)

(=0)
Not Voting - 3 (Franky, Wake88, TheWayItEnds)
Last votecount was post 3276, page 132.
Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 1
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 1
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:09p,
Expedience
Votes
rb
in post 576.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:10p,
Stormblade
Votes
Expedience
in post 578.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:14p,
copper223
Votes
Heartless
in post 583.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,
KuroiXHF
Votes
copper223
in post 586.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:16p,
Cephrir
Votes
Nosferatu
in post 588.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:21p,
Cephrir
Votes
Expedience
in post 591.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:26p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Titus
in post 598.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:28p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Expedience
in post 601.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:31p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Expedience
in post 606.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:35p,
Titus
Votes
Cane + Able/Wake88
in post 615.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:42p,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
rb
in post 629.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:44p,
dramonc
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 639.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:47p,
Luna Fox
votes
Expedience
in post 649.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 662.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 08:57p,
Klingoncelt
Votes
Expedience
in post 663.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,
Mathblade
Votes
Expedience
in post 692.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:25p,
BBMolla
Votes
rb
in post 693.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 09:47p,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post 724.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:02p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
Stormblade
in post 760.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:09p,
Expedience
Votes
Titus
in post 780.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:14p,
Expedience
Votes
rb
in post 793.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 10:59p,
No Retreat
votes
davesaz
in post 872.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:12p,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 885.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,
BBMolla
Unvotes
(
rb
)
, and Votes
Titus
in post 896.
On Mon, Jul 07/11/16 @ 11:26p,
Heartless
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 910.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:00a,
Expedience
Votes
Luna Fox
in post 932.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:59a,
TheWayItEnds
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 1111.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 09:51a,
Luna Fox
unvotes
(
Expedience
)
in post 1140.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:39a,
KuroiXHF
Votes
TheWayItEnds
in post 1161.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:42a,
davesaz
Votes
Expedience
in post 1164.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 01:52p,
Heartless
Votes
Almost50
in post 1220.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:09p,
Cephrir
Votes
Almost50
in post 1234.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:31p,
BBMolla
Unvotes
(
Titus
)
, and Votes
Almost50
in post 1246.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 02:39p,
Lady Lambdadelta
votes
Luna Fox
in post 1257.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 04:29p,
Luna Fox
votes
Almost50
in post 1325.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 05:06p,
Almost50
Votes
Heartless
in post 1338.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:36p,
Tim
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 1420.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:42p,
No Retreat
votes
Heartless
in post 1430.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:51p,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1434.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 06:52p,
Titus
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1435.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 08:40p,
KuroiXHF
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 1510.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:06p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Stormblade
in post 1595.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:37p,
Cane + Able/Wake88
Votes
Titus
in post 1621.
On Tue, Jul 07/12/16 @ 11:48p,
Luna Fox
votes
Stormblade
in post 1632.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:05a,
copper223
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1699.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:18a,
Mathblade
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 1711.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:32a,
Expedience
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1728.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:09a,
Expedience
Unvotes
KuroiXHF
in post 1793.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:19a,
Luna Fox
unvotes
(
Stormblade
)
in post 1801.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:06a,
Luna Fox
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1896.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:48a,
No Retreat
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1917.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:00a,
Cephrir
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1919.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:04p,
Cane + Able/Wake88
Unvotes
(
Titus
)
in post 1943.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 01:51p,
Salt Squad
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 1958.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 02:58p,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
Franky
in post 2004.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 06:46p,
Mathblade
Votes
Expedience
in post 2058.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:33p,
Toogeloo
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2088.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 07:42p,
Expedience
Votes
RAM
in post 2095.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 08:48p,
BBMolla
Unvotes
(
Almost50
)
, and Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2160.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 09:44p,
No Retreat
unvotes
(
KuroiXHF
)
in post 2182.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:15p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
Stormblade
)
in post 2204.
On Wed, Jul 07/13/16 @ 10:57p,
davesaz
Unvotes
(
Expedience
)
in post 2226.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 04:50a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2285.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:26a,
RAM
Votes
copper223
in post 2291.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:06a,
Heartless
Votes
copper223
in post 2359.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:33a,
copper223
Votes
Heartless
in post 2380.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 07:56a,
rb
Votes
RAM
in post 2400.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:08a,
Luna Fox
votes
RAM
in post 2411.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:16a,
Luna Fox
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2423.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:25a,
Titus
Votes
copper223
in post 2433.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:44a,
rb
Unvotes
(
RAM
)
in post 2446.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:13a,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2466.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:21a,
Titus
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2478.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 10:43a,
Mathblade
Unvotes
(
Expedience
)
in post 2549.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 11:33a,
TheWayItEnds
unvotes
(
Wayward Thinker
)
in post 2555.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:10p,
Salt Squad
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2599.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 05:47p,
davesaz
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2611.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 08:50p,
No Retreat
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2701.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:35p,
Heartless
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2726.
On Thu, Jul 07/14/16 @ 09:50p,
Mathblade
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2730.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:40a,
Expedience
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 2804.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:42a,
No Retreat
votes
Klingoncelt
in post 2805.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 03:54a,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 2817.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 04:30a,
RAM
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2832.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 04:43a,
Nosferatu
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2841.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 05:48a,
Cephrir
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 2870.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:24a,
RAM
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 2883.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:26a,
Titus
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 2885.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:58a,
Expedience
Votes
RAM
in post 2896.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 11:43a,
Titus
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 2980.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 12:54p,
KuroiXHF
Votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post 3044.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 01:30p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3065.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 02:16p,
Cephrir
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3083.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 06:19p,
BBMolla
Unvotes
(
KuroiXHF
)
, and Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 3081.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 07:32p,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
KuroiXHF
)
in post 3317.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 08:42p,
Expedience
Votes
Klingoncelt
in post 3332.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 09:28p,
Cephrir
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 3358.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 10:15p,
No Retreat
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3371.
On Fri, Jul 07/15/16 @ 10:28p,
Expedience
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3376.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 00:33a,
Klingoncelt
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 3405.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 06:05a,
RAM
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3425.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 08:45a,
Salt Squad
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3467.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 09:01a,
Cephrir
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3469.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 09:33a,
Heartless
Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3495.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 11:54a,
Toogeloo
votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3610.
On Sat, Jul 07/16/16 @ 07:57p,
Tim
Unvotes
Wayward Thinker
, and Votes
KuroiXHF
in post 3640.
This post originally did not contain a votecount. It has been edited in one day later, for a convenient reference point. The following is the text that originally encompassed the message, broken up by the L-2 image above.

Gotta go to bed for the night (I work tomorrow morning), so no detailed VC.
I will, however, debut this for the first time this game!

Also, I have a replacement lined up for Franky, so the slot is guaranteed to be filled, but I'm waiting on a response PM before I send their role PM to them and announce it in-thread. That will unfortunately have to wait until tomorrow. (Apologies, work is the weakness in my schedule beyond sleep.)

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:12 pm
by dramonic
In post 3671, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote:
In post 3668, dramonic wrote:EDIT: I could lynch Ice right now.
why cuase I'm saying
you may ask the mod about whats the meaning of your faction win con in your role pm?


or cuase I'm town? cuase you love lynching town only if your scum

~Ice
vote: ASOIAF
or whatever the abbreviation is.
This is patently false.
Time to swing.

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:15 pm
by A Song of Ice and Fire
Its not false

I asked mastain whats the meaning of "you win when X happens" she said it means you have a town win condition but I can explain the x

try that for yourself if your town too

~Ice
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