In post 6866, No Retreat wrote:RB pls talk to me about how or how not WT is a counterwagon to Exp.
What do you mean?
Both WT and Expedience are scumreads for me, they should both die as far as I'm concerned.
Well, I remember you saying over and over how Kuroi was a counterwagon to WT. Ok, maybe he was but Exp was actully the first wagon from the first day so wouldn't WT be an Exp counter as well? I remember asking about it but I don't think you ever responded to me so thats why my vote is currently on you.
This is also the first I remember of you calling Exp scum.
I called Exp scum for like all of Day 1.
Dramonic was telling me he was town and I was skeptical the entire time. With Nahdia dead and her really seeing Exp as scum, I think Dram was wrong and Nahdia was right on Exped.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:42 am
by Toogeloo
Also, I feel like two mafia teams of 3 is extremely weak in a 28 player game. Hell, combined they are barely 20% of the player base. Then you have to assume cross kills.
I still don't see there being a Serial Killer either, and there's no flavor to suggest it's existence.
My guess is that the game started at:
4-5 Mafia Faction 1
4-5 Mafia Faction 2
---There's nothing wrong with having lopsided Multi Mafia teams, one could be a four man while the other a five man, it just depends on their power level. I could see a three man, but it'd have to be a really powerful team. Two three man teams seems really low though.
1-2 Cult
---One Cult at the start of the game could be really weak for that faction considering there is a lot of Kills at night, and many are protection bypassing. This is assuming the Cult even works like a traditional one. If we are dealing with a varied Cult, who knows how many they started with or how their recruiting works.
15-18 Town of varying factions.
---The obvious here is that there is no true town faction. As long as you have the same generic town wincon, you are on town. The exception to the rule is the Survivor faction, which still makes no sense to me.
IRT the Survivor Faction, the thought just occurred to me that maybe they can win with town or scum so long as at least 1 member is still alive. It doesn't change anything, but that possibility seems way more friendly to their wincon than the worse alternative of only winning with town and having a surviving member.
Anyone happen to know if the Vampires recruited a Human to their ranks yet?
@bacde
: Has the Undead faction attempted to recruit a Human to it's ranks yet? (simple yes/no, no names)
Shit I even pushed on both Exped + WT in Day 1 pretty hard, and I kept getting annoyed by people townreading Exped.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:46 am
by No Retreat
I don't think you did, so you scum read him? But you think WT is a better lynch?
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:47 am
by Toogeloo
In post 6907, No Retreat wrote:I don't think you did, so you scum read him? But you think WT is a better lynch?
WT has more support. iirc, you're the only person voting Expedience right now.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:47 am
by rb
In post 6903, No Retreat wrote:Why weren't you sheeping me on Exp earlier? Are we going with the "WT is a bigger scumread!"?
What do you think of Bacde calling you his biggest scumread but voting me?
Dram was pretty insistent that Exped was terrible town. After he flipped Night 1 I thought, "well okay then".
Then Nahdia flipped Night 2 and she was pretty insistent Exped was terrible scum. Then we had a guilty on LLD and Dram also thought WT was really scum too. I'm sorting the game different as different people flip.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:49 am
by Toogeloo
I don't understand why this has to be a Black or White thing. This game is already convoluted enough. To quote Boromir, "One simply does not simply have a Scum or Town read on every player in this game."
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:52 am
by rb
In post 6907, No Retreat wrote:I don't think you did, so you scum read him? But you think WT is a better lynch?
oh sure we can. I don't think its impossible that you spend d1 bussing your buddy. I mean just 'cause Dram flipped town doesn't mean he was right about Exp. Do you often take the advice of flipped players?
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:24 am
by RachMarie
the interactions with song at the beginning of the day
placement in the vca I did
stuffs like that Nero
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:26 am
by RachMarie
also both WT and exped are just kind of coasting along popping in now an again with a post or two then slipping off
that does not feel like lurking that feels like ACTIVE lurking
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:45 am
by Nosferatu
other than no retreat I'm good with like all of these lynches
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:23 am
by Bacde
Why is everyone sucking no retreats dick
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:24 am
by Bacde
This is like, highly concerning for no retreat being cult leader the fact we have all these random ppl defending him who never spoke up before
Especially considering no retreat stands out in how unremarkable he is this game
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:05 am
by mastin2
THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED TO INCLUDE A VC. Original text below.
Heads up: celebrating my sister's birthday today, so...largely unavailable today.
Including fixing last VC which is half-correct but is missing a couple of things, namely, A Song of Ice and Fire's name.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:09 am
by RachMarie
bacde some of us have played with Nero before
plus there is more serious issues atm like WT and Exped. What are your thoughts on them?
umm yeah Im not offended by the way you phrased that, but some others in the game might be
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:09 am
by davesaz
Ugh, sorry a squirrel ran in front of me and I chased it.
I'll try to spend real time on this later, after back to school shopping for the kids.
