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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:55 am
by mastin2
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Wayward Thinker is at L-2.
trivia"Do as you will, but not at cost to humanity."

--Third rule of undead.

Sixty-fourth Votecount
:
(Twenty-third Votecount D4)
Wayward Thinker - 7 (RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, davesaz, Almost50, Nosferatu, Toogeloo, Tim)

Bacde - 2 (Wake88, Wayward Thinker)

Expedience - 2 (No Retreat, rb)
Tim - 1 (Expedience)

Not Voting - 4 (TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Heartless, Bacde)

With
16
alive, it takes
9
to lynch.

Wayward Thinker is at L-2.


Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,
Wayward Thinker
would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:
  • mastin2, THE MODERATOR
    :
    August 11th, 2016 - August 16thish, 2016
  • Wake88
    (End: August 12th, 2016)
  • No Retreat
    (August 15th - ??)

Extras
Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount
(+2)
Wayward Thinker - 7 (RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, davesaz, Almost50, Nosferatu,
Toogeloo, Tim
)
(=0)
Bacde - 2 (Wake88, Wayward Thinker)
(=0)
Expedience - 2 (No Retreat, rb)
(-1)
davesaz - 0 (
Bacde
)
(=0)
Tim - 1 (Expedience)

(+1/-2)
Not Voting - 4 (
Tim
, TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire,
Toogeloo
, Heartless,
Bacde
)
Last votecount was post 7305, page 293.
Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 4
Spoiler: Players Voted D4 History
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 12:58a,
Expedience
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6414.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 01:20a,
Toogeloo
votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post 6419.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 02:35a,
Almost50
Votes
davesaz
in post 6431.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 03:51a,
Bacde
votes
No Retreat
in post 6435.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 06:15a,
Almost50
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6463.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 08:58a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
davesaz
in post 6507.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 09:43a,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post 6518.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 10:58a,
Heartless
Votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post 6533.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 05:47p,
Wake88
Votes
Bacde
in post 6589.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 04:23a,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6627.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 10:06a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6634.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 12:59p,
RachMarie
Votes
Bacde
in post 6651.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 02:05p,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
Bacde
in post 6654.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 03:58p,
davesaz
Votes
Bacde
in post 6663.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 05:21p,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6668.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 08:09p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
No Retreat
)
in post 6677.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 04:21a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
rb
in post 6755.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 05:24a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 6763.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 05:47a,
RachMarie
Votes
Nosferatu
in post 6768.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 07:32p,
Almost50
Votes
rb
in post 6839.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 08:04p,
Nosferatu
Votes
rb
in post 6840.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 08:19p,
No Retreat
votes
rb
in post 6841.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 12:48a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
rb
in post 6857.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 05:52a,
RachMarie
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6889.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:20a,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
A Song of Ice and Fire
)
, and votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6894.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:36p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 6963.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:40p,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post 6967.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:44p,
Expedience
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6970.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:51p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
Expedience
in post 6980.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:10p,
Heartless
Votes
davesaz
in post 6994.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:21p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Uvotes
(
Expedience
)
in post 6998.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:26p,
Expedience
Votes
davesaz
in post 7000.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 09:04a,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
Bacde
in post 7009.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 11:19a,
Bacde
votes
davesaz
in post 7012.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 11:20a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
davesaz
in post 7014.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 03:10a,
Almost50
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 7046.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 02:24p,
Heartless
Votes
Tim
in post 7084.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 02:42p,
RachMarie
Votes
Tim
in post 7085.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 05:27p,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
Wayward Thinker
)
, and votes
Tim
in post 7093.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 09:58p,
Heartless
Votes
davesaz
in post 7103.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 03:57a,
Nosferatu
Votes
davesaz
in post 7117.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 09:20a,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
Tim
)
, and votes
davesaz
in post 7142.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 03:22p,
Almost50
Votes
davesaz
in post 7147.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 04:13p,
rb
Votes
davesaz
in post 7152.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 04:19p,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7153.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 05:07p,
RachMarie
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7158.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 07:50p,
Heartless
Unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7176.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 11:55p,
Expedience
Votes
Tim
in post 7191.
On Wed, Aug 08/10/16 @ 02:49a,
Nosferatu
Unvotes
davesaz
in post 7205.
On Wed, Aug 08/10/16 @ 05:01a,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7208.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 01:30a,
rb
Votes
Expedience
in post 7244.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 04:58a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7252.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 05:45a,
Almost50
Unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7254.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 07:43a,
davesaz
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7261.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 08:52a,
Almost50
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7262.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 06:12p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7281.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 06:19a,
Bacde
unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7307.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 10:37a,
Toogeloo
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7318.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 11:20a,
Tim
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7319.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:09 am
by RachMarie
I don't have nuts :o


ohhh you mean my nation and location

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:25 am
by No Retreat
In post 7310, Bacde wrote:I dunno how I feel abt watching no retreat
if you are town you better be on me.
In post 7314, RachMarie wrote:She may have missed the claim its easy to do with so much going on in this thread
or shes scum not paying attention.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:29 am
by RachMarie
I have not ruled out the possibility Nero.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:32 am
by No Retreat
I don't really like the WT wagon, it feels too easy. My guts says we should mass claim soon but I'm not really sure how soon.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:33 am
by mastin2
Several players are close to prodding range, but not quite at it.
If I wasn't leaving, I would be waiting until the prod range and prodding them.
Since I am, I've sent out a series of pokes, which will turn into prods if not responded to.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:51 am
by No Retreat
Rach what is your flavor for why you and Wake are masons?

Can we atleast not lynch WT until Exp answers my questions?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:51 am
by Almost50
@Mastin2: LOL.. No Problem


Alright, guys. It's very likely a redirector not a deflector, as Mastina has just PM'd me acknowledging I should've got OTHER instead of West for my check on Mathblade's nation.

So, only you were redirected, rb.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:28 am
by Expedience
In post 7195, No Retreat wrote:I still think Exp was rolefishing. His original reasoning for scumreading me was that I was wasn't voting LLD, which is sorta dumb 'cause it avoids a ton of other players but...

Then he switches to the "OMG NERO'S NOT ROLECLAIMG!" I just feel like if he were town he'd stick with the first thing. I also think this "don't cult me!" sounds fake. Here where he tries to take an obvious reply to DGB and try to make it look like I was talking to him is also hard to see from town.
like, all I wanted was for you to claim, I wasn't being entirely honest there.

But I genuinely thought you were replying to me, your post was pretty ambiguous and I don't know whyyou or how there is any scum motivation in that anyway.
@Exp
Why do you think RB can't be the cult leader?
Idk. I think aSoIaF made a good point about their tone changing, and that could be because they were culted. I may have been exaggerating.

But I don't like rb's posts today.
In post 6944, Expedience wrote:Everyone No Retreat has come out pushing is town, including Wake, Bacde, me, rb
(who can only be culted town and can't be cult leader most likely)
In post 6993, Expedience wrote:I'm basically conftown we can win easily if you trial someone like Tim, rb, WT or davesaz
What happened between these two posts where I pushing town RB and then he's a good vig shot?
Game is almost easily solved by PoE, just make Tim / WT / rb / aSoIaF (and previously you) claim, because one of them will be a vig and we don't want them to shoot each other. aSoIaF could be scum because Firebringer hasn't really been posting much at all, and FA can easily churn out 500 posts of spam that I am unwilling to read back to try and work out their alignment.

You should shoot Nosferatu, davesaz, or one of those people. Nosferatu is probably town who was turned to cult.

Davesaz could be a scum human, there has to be some I think.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:29 am
by Expedience
In post 7329, No Retreat wrote:I don't really like the WT wagon, it feels too easy. My guts says we should mass claim soon but I'm not really sure how soon.
Same about WT, except we should only make Tim / WT / rb / aSoIaF claim

WT basically can't be scum unless he was being bussed really hard, a lot of the votes on him were from scum of both factions.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:31 am
by Expedience
In post 7197, No Retreat wrote:I'm likely dying soon (THANKS EXP!) so I figure I'll just be "leashed" and i'll use my vig shot as a double lynch but its still mine so I'll have my own pool but you guys get to help decide. :) So depending on the lynch I still want to shoot within

3. Bacde
12. davesaz
20. rb
23. Expedience
26. DrippingGoofball

If anyone has any major concers with me killing anyone on this list speak up.
You should not kill: Bacde, me, and DGB

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:47 am
by Almost50
@Expedience:

Your way of making everybody claim is just NOT impressing me at all! Like, you COULD get easily guess which of them is the remaining champ without necessarily outing them to the public.

Btw, do you check nations or locations? If nations, please claim your results. Now THAT might prove more useful than outright claiming roles.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:00 pm
by Almost50
Like, we have 3 flipped Northern Tribes and 3 alive. That leaves 1 unclaimed/flipped from the Northern Tribes.

We had 4 Western flips, and DGB alive, so 2 more West out there and they're likely to be town.

3 East flips and 2 living claims leaving 2 unknown, and then we have 5 alive from Other.

Now tell me you have TWO others checked as Northern from the unknowns and I'd lynch Toog in a split of a second because that would confirm he used a fake claim, then we re-evaluate based on the night action and checks.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:01 pm
by Expedience
In post 7242, No Retreat wrote:not really seeing Rachs case for Exp being town b/c Alexis is a role confirmed to be in the game.
In post 7243, davesaz wrote:Any name which appears in a flipped role could easily be adapted into a fakeclaim by careful scum. Was the flavor claim the main reason for that townread?
I can support Exp or WT.
Did you read the flavor?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:03 pm
by Majiffy
A moment of silence for the U.S. Women's National Football team.

We will see you in 2019, girls.

Well, probably sans-Solo. It's going to be a different world.

I might have to have a cry later.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:03 pm
by Expedience
In post 7336, Almost50 wrote:@Expedience:

Your way of making everybody claim is just NOT impressing me at all! Like, you COULD get easily guess which of them is the remaining champ without necessarily outing them to the public.

Btw, do you check nations or locations? If nations, please claim your results. Now THAT might prove more useful than outright claiming roles.
No not everyone, just those people. Then we will probably win, I guarantee it!

If I guess it's aSoIaF, but idk.

ok:
Night 1: Tim's location is Great Ridge
Night 2: No Retreat's nation is East Kingdom
Night 3: Nosferatu's location is Other

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:04 pm
by Expedience
In post 7337, Almost50 wrote:Like, we have 3 flipped Northern Tribes and 3 alive. That leaves 1 unclaimed/flipped from the Northern Tribes.

We had 4 Western flips, and DGB alive, so 2 more West out there and they're likely to be town.

3 East flips and 2 living claims leaving 2 unknown, and then we have 5 alive from Other.

Now tell me you have TWO others checked as Northern from the unknowns and I'd lynch Toog in a split of a second because that would confirm he used a fake claim, then we re-evaluate based on the night action and checks.
Bodyguard claim cannot survive to endgame probably so idc about Toogeloo, he is obvtown anyway

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:13 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 7320, Almost50 wrote:We now know the recruiting/culting is more reliant on Race not nation or location.
Say what now? We don't know anything about the Cult.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:17 pm
by Toogeloo
For the record...
Location Scans:
Night 1 - dramonic (returned no result, suggesting I was blocked)
Night 2 - Mathblade (Great Ridge)
Night 3 - DrippingGoofball (Erimos)

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:20 pm
by Almost50
In post 7342, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 7320, Almost50 wrote:We now know the recruiting/culting is more reliant on Race not nation or location.
Say what now? We don't know anything about the Cult.
Forget about the cult and talk to me about your checks.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:21 pm
by Majiffy
Obligatory H.S.T. quote"The Edge... There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over. The others- the living- are those who pushed their luck as far as they felt they could handle it, and then pulled back, or slowed down, or did whatever they had to when it came time to choose between Now and Later. But the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In. The association of motorcycles with LSD is no accident of publicity. They are both a means to an end, to the place of definitions."

-
Hell's Angels (1966)

Sixty-Fifth Votecount
:
(Twenty-Fourth Votecount D4)
Wayward Thinker - 7 (RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, davesaz, Almost50, Nosferatu, Toogeloo, Tim)

Bacde - 2 (Wake88, Wayward Thinker)

Expedience - 2 (No Retreat, rb)
Tim - 1 (Expedience)

Not Voting - 4 (TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Heartless, Bacde)

With
16
alive, it takes
9
to lynch.

Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,
Wayward Thinker
would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:
  • mastin2, THE MODERATOR
    :
    August 11th, 2016 - August 16thish, 2016
  • Wake88
    (End: August 12th, 2016)
  • No Retreat
    (August 15th - ??)
Tim: V/LA expired Sunday, August 7th, 2016?
ExtrasNot doing extras. Holy fuck what a formatting nightmare. Mastin you are magnificent, I can't even.
<<< Hey, I told you ya didn't need to do that stuff, that I'd do it for you. <3 >>>

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:04 pm
by Toogeloo
In post 7344, Almost50 wrote:
In post 7342, Toogeloo wrote:
In post 7320, Almost50 wrote:We now know the recruiting/culting is more reliant on Race not nation or location.
Say what now? We don't know anything about the Cult.
Forget about the cult and talk to me about your checks.
Wait, why are we just forgetting about you saying we know things we don't? What do you want to know about my checks?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:06 pm
by Toogeloo
Rach, is Wake planning on joining on WT, or are you two at odds on that read?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:07 pm
by RachMarie
wake has not posted yet in our thread I told him I needed him
He must really be off the computer on his VLA

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:20 pm
by No Retreat
In post 7348, RachMarie wrote:He must really be off the computer on his VLA
lets just all pretend that we don't see him posting it on the site. :/
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