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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:57 pm
by RachMarie
hey at least my heart is in the right place even if i was useless to stop dimitri

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:57 pm
by Wake1
In post 7444, Wayward Thinker wrote:We have 11 days left in the day... 11. I am not getting why I am going to be lynched with 10 days left in the day.

This game is really hard to keep track of. I have things going on... I had no idea this game was going to be so complex, honestly.

I'll claim tomorrow.
You shouldn't wait to claim if you're online now.

Otherwise it looks like you're hoping for the pressure to go away.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:58 pm
by RachMarie
YES

exactly

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:00 pm
by davesaz
RachMarie Nation = other.
I'll have to dig through PMs for additional results but this one does check out.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:07 pm
by RachMarie
so can we now stop forcing town players to claim and focus on lynching the last of the scum teams?

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:10 pm
by mastin2
Image
Wayward Thinker is at L-1!
triviaAcid dragons are a race of lizard (no, they cannot fly) native to the great ridge. They developed a chemical breath to shoot out at their victim, which dissolves all matters of flesh and even armor. While super-effective in their native desert, many creatures in other regions of the world have a protective coating against this chemical, which humanity has harvested. Still, to the unprepared masses, an acid dragon will melt through ranks of enemy soldiers, who are unlikely to be protected. (It's expensive to coat everyone, everywhere, and most skip out.)

Sixty-ninth Votecount
:
(Twenty-eighth Votecount D4)
Wayward Thinker - 8 (RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, davesaz, Almost50, Nosferatu, Toogeloo, Tim, Wake88)

Expedience - 2 (No Retreat, rb)

Tim - 2 (Expedience, Heartless)
Bacde - 1 (Wayward Thinker)

Not Voting - 3 (TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Bacde)

With
16
alive, it takes
9
to lynch.

Wayward Thinker is at L-1!


Day 4's deadline is Tuesday, August 23rd, @ 9:00 PM PST: (expired on 2016-08-23 21:00:00).
At Deadline,
Wayward Thinker
would be lynched.

Known Player V/LAs:
  • mastin2, THE MODERATOR
    :
    August 11th, 2016 - August 18thish, 2016
  • Wake88
    (End: August 12th, 2016)
  • No Retreat
    (August 15th - ??)

Extras
Spoiler: Changes from Last Votecount
(+1)
Wayward Thinker - 8 (RachMarie, DrippingGoofball, davesaz, Almost50, Nosferatu, Toogeloo, Tim,
Wake88
)
(-1)
Bacde - 1 (
Wake88
, Wayward Thinker)
(=0)
Expedience - 2 (No Retreat, rb)
(=0)
Tim - 2 (Expedience, Heartless)

(=0)
Not Voting - 3 (TheWayItEnds, A Song of Ice and Fire, Bacde)
Last votecount was post 7430, page 298.
Spoiler: Player Votecount History Day 4
Spoiler: Players Voted D4 History
Spoiler: Voting Chronology Day 4
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 12:58a,
Expedience
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6414.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 01:20a,
Toogeloo
votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post 6419.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 02:35a,
Almost50
Votes
davesaz
in post 6431.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 03:51a,
Bacde
votes
No Retreat
in post 6435.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 06:15a,
Almost50
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6463.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 08:58a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
davesaz
in post 6507.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 09:43a,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post 6518.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 10:58a,
Heartless
Votes
A Song of Ice and Fire
in post 6533.
On Wed, Aug 08/03/16 @ 05:47p,
Wake88
Votes
Bacde
in post 6589.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 04:23a,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6627.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 10:06a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6634.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 12:59p,
RachMarie
Votes
Bacde
in post 6651.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 02:05p,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
Bacde
in post 6654.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 03:58p,
davesaz
Votes
Bacde
in post 6663.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 05:21p,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
No Retreat
in post 6668.
On Thu, Aug 08/04/16 @ 08:09p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
No Retreat
)
in post 6677.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 04:21a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
rb
in post 6755.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 05:24a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 6763.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 05:47a,
RachMarie
Votes
Nosferatu
in post 6768.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 07:32p,
Almost50
Votes
rb
in post 6839.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 08:04p,
Nosferatu
Votes
rb
in post 6840.
On Fri, Aug 08/05/16 @ 08:19p,
No Retreat
votes
rb
in post 6841.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 12:48a,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
rb
in post 6857.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 05:52a,
RachMarie
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6889.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:20a,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
A Song of Ice and Fire
)
, and votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6894.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:36p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 6963.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:40p,
No Retreat
votes
Expedience
in post 6967.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:44p,
Expedience
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 6970.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 09:51p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Votes
Expedience
in post 6980.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:10p,
Heartless
Votes
davesaz
in post 6994.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:21p,
A Song of Ice and Fire
Uvotes
(
Expedience
)
in post 6998.
On Sat, Aug 08/06/16 @ 10:26p,
Expedience
Votes
davesaz
in post 7000.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 09:04a,
Wayward Thinker
Votes
Bacde
in post 7009.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 11:19a,
Bacde
votes
davesaz
in post 7012.
On Sun, Aug 08/07/16 @ 11:20a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
davesaz
in post 7014.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 03:10a,
Almost50
Unvotes
(
rb
)
in post 7046.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 02:24p,
Heartless
Votes
Tim
in post 7084.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 02:42p,
RachMarie
Votes
Tim
in post 7085.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 05:27p,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
Wayward Thinker
)
, and votes
Tim
in post 7093.
On Mon, Aug 08/08/16 @ 09:58p,
Heartless
Votes
davesaz
in post 7103.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 03:57a,
Nosferatu
Votes
davesaz
in post 7117.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 09:20a,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
Tim
)
, and votes
davesaz
in post 7142.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 03:22p,
Almost50
Votes
davesaz
in post 7147.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 04:13p,
rb
Votes
davesaz
in post 7152.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 04:19p,
Toogeloo
unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7153.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 05:07p,
RachMarie
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7158.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 07:50p,
Heartless
Unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7176.
On Tue, Aug 08/09/16 @ 11:55p,
Expedience
Votes
Tim
in post 7191.
On Wed, Aug 08/10/16 @ 02:49a,
Nosferatu
Unvotes
davesaz
in post 7205.
On Wed, Aug 08/10/16 @ 05:01a,
rb
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7208.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 01:30a,
rb
Votes
Expedience
in post 7244.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 04:58a,
DrippingGoofball
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7252.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 05:45a,
Almost50
Unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7254.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 07:43a,
davesaz
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7261.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 08:52a,
Almost50
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7262.
On Thu, Aug 08/11/16 @ 06:12p,
Nosferatu
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7281.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 06:19a,
Bacde
unvotes
(
davesaz
)
in post 7307.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 10:37a,
Toogeloo
votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7318.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 11:20a,
Tim
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7319.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 06:28p,
Heartless
Votes
Tim
in post 7368.
On Fri, Aug 08/12/16 @ 07:48p,
Wake88
Votes
Wayward Thinker
in post 7436.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:26 pm
by mastin2
So obviously, given my circumstances right now, I've fallen a bit behind on my recording of votecounts.
I may have time for fixing that tonight, but this post is also just a general note:

Unless there is no lynch until I return, no matter what, the transition between one phase to another will be awkward, for obvious reasons.
In short, no matter what, you're gonna have to bear with me for a while. I don't actually know how long I'll be down in Oregon. We're not just going down to watch my grandmother die, we're not just going down to take care of my grandfather, we're also going down for the following funeral, and between all three, we just don't know exactly how long we'll be down there, so I can't give you a hard return time. (I also can't give you a hard departure time, since I'm not the one driving.)

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:32 pm
by RachMarie
HUGS♥ Mastin sorry you are going through all of this hon, you know I am here for you, love you.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:42 pm
by Heartless
lq is on

i see no claim

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:09 pm
by mastin2
Apparently, D4 has had
so
many votecounts, that it's too many to fit into one post.
So, introducing VC history, part three!
(We're gonna end up with four or five, aren't we?)

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:59 am
by A Song of Ice and Fire
sorry for my lack of existance in this game

Fire is moving out and I'm currently :

1 - lazy
2 - occupied with TI6 dota international games (and playing netrunner cuase its cool and I just descovered it)

if there is any question from me I'm here to answer.

My reads hadn't change. I still think rb is really really different from his past. I think rach/wake nosfertu claims make me suspicious and is not helping me with that case. dave is meh cuas ethere is a human innicent on him now. WT is still refusing to contribute about their reads.

almost50 is his curious town now so I'm happy with him but i won't claim any thing falvor wise cuase I feel there might be a reason those infos are in our hand and it might help the enemy atm so nah . I'm not convinced.

heartless seems fine today , DGB is still vanished : I really really wish your not scum cuase this is dirty playing and I hate that >.>

I'm null on tim which is beeehhhhh , I need to review his iso and interactions

Intent to hammer WT

~Ice

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:09 am
by Expedience
Even though WT is claimstalling cult leader, do not hammer him.

If you hammer WT, I will hammer you.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:11 am
by Expedience
This is because we await the return of Tim, the claimstalling wulden goon.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:34 am
by RachMarie
I could buy that and I know Wake was already on board for lynching Tim

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:42 am
by A Song of Ice and Fire
I did that to give WT this feeling that their getting lynched soon cuase it seems they doesn't have that feeling

not to just end the day. I hate to just end the day. I hate the hammer vote fire made last day . Thats not my playstyle and I do hate lazy plays.

why do you think I made a list of my reads? cuase everyone should do that soon.

why was I in your not town list? I mean I feel some slots are trying to circle me and throw shitty dirt for later days ; cuase You know thats the fucking reason everyone keep me alive in mafia games.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:52 am
by Almost50
In post 7357, No Retreat wrote:
@Almost
. Lets talk about the second lynch (my vig) how much do you trust the masons? Do you think Exp is town and if so why? Talk to me about Nos and DGB.
Your Vig is probably yours to decide, and I take back any reservations bc I'm caught too deep in "ifs & buts" with too many possibilities.

Right now I'm trusting you the most, followed by Nos & Heartless. I have a strong town read on ASoIaF based on meta and content.

I do not fully trust the masons, but one of the scenarios I'm considering suggests they're town. Confirmation could depend on a couple of flips and/or more nation checks revealed.

Expedience is probably town based on his play. If he's scum he's pushing his luck too hard.

I have only read up to this post I'm responding to, so I may have more to add IF anyone else decided to give more info.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:04 am
by Almost50
In post 7374, No Retreat wrote:ok, but I don't want to do Tim.
If we chose to town read DGB & Nos then Tim IS the right lynch IMHO.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:05 am
by Almost50
WDBWOP:

Not "the", but "a".

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:18 am
by Toogeloo
In post 7435, davesaz wrote:how would you know he was scum with a nos check?
This is a pretty good question tbqh.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:20 am
by Toogeloo
In post 7459, mastin2 wrote:Apparently, D4 has had so many votecounts, that it's too many to fit into one post.
I blame you for being too good a mod and giving us updated Vote Counts almost every page.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:37 am
by RachMarie
like i said it could have been flavor but the result made it very clear that Nicholas was not happy but terrified to find a nos in RAM and in general the flavor indicated for a long time, until he turned Wake to save wake's life, that he had a very lonely path and was very much against the rest of his kind and FOR the humans at all costs, even to himself.

That was enough for me to push RAM as a scum read the next day along with the reason I suspected him in the first place the way he was trying to prevent LLD's lynch.

Then instead he was killed and did flip scum.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:43 am
by Toogeloo
Oh, gotcha. Yeah, while I tend not to put much stock into flavor for information, it seems strangely influential in this game. Like how my wincon mentions both Nosferatu and Wulden as the bad guys (though Wulden are said to be Cult in my flavor).

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:45 am
by Nosferatu
In post 7460, A Song of Ice and Fire wrote: I think rach/wake nosfertu claims make me suspicious and is not helping me with that case.
rach/wake claimed nosferatu?

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:49 am
by Toogeloo
Just to reclarify my flavor, in light of Rach's race claim...

My character (who's family taught Hunters how to Hunt apparently), is in a 3 way dispute with his family's honor on the line or some shit. It's between me, Wuldens who were once Bandits but are now Cult, and Ex-Hunter Nosferatu that I consider my enemies. I paraphrased of course, but there is room for interpretation that it's plausible I may not want to kill all Nosferatu, just Ex-Hunters.

Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:50 am
by Toogeloo
In post 7472, Nosferatu wrote:rach/wake claimed nosferatu?
Yes, which can't be nearly as weird than if you were to claim to be Rach/Wake :lol:
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