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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:54 am
by No Retreat
unvote


we have time, I'm not saying we should stall to use all 17 days are anything but I want to post more.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:05 am
by RachMarie
yeah as long as I dont die LOL

toog already took a bullet for me as it is :(

and scum will want me dead for sure uggh

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:07 am
by No Retreat
I was going to ask about that in my catchup but now seems as good time as any but why do you think Toog protected you?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:12 am
by RachMarie
A50 admitted she shot me, toog is dead and I am here

Elementary, my dear nero

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:19 am
by No Retreat
In post 7981, Expedience wrote:I don't know who is scum other than rb
:shifty:

This is starting to be a common refrain from you. Like yesterday I was your sole scum read, today RB is your sole scum read. Idk, I just feel like town are far more likely to kinda spiral out and have multiple scumreads. And I think its more likely that scum have LESS scum readsso they are less likely to agitate players. Half the reason that I was scumreading you is b/c I was scumreading RB. RB spent a large chunk of d1 calling you scum and then when Dram flips his reaction is "oh maybe I'm wrong on Exp and Dram was right!" like WTF is that?!? Did you cult him? Are you guys scum buddies?

though Rach will just spout that your Alexis role means you are confirmed town but I think your play has been less than stellar thought I do have a bad habit of looking at bad play as scum play when it might just be bad play. :igmeou:

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:22 am
by No Retreat
oh ALSO

@ASOFAI

I DID TARGET YOU LAST NIGHT. TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:25 am
by Almost50
In post 8004, RachMarie wrote:A50 admitted she shot me, toog is dead and I am here

Elementary, my dear nero
I visited you last night bc I had visited Nosferatu the night before and he didn't die, leading me to believe he was Town. Now I know he WAS scum and why he didn't die.

Scum may want you dead, but they also want both myself and No Retreat even more, besides, even if you end up dead your block resolves first, so Expedience will still be blocked anyway.

That being said, I'm glad No Retreat is here to post and discuss more. I'm sure between the three of us we can organize our moves and actions better.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:36 am
by No Retreat
there's a thing in our (me and A50) role pms that says we will automatically kill one another if we target each other. I asked Mastin pre-game if the other champions are considered threats. Mastin said she couldn't tell me. So I really really hope a50 didn't target me. I feel like I was the obvious choice for doc protection. I mean maybe Toog thought "oh Nero has a 1x BP, he'll be safe."

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:42 am
by No Retreat
I also sorta wanna policy lynch/vig Bcade. I mean there is a line of thought that says he's town b/c instead of taking orders and being a good little townie he did what he wanted and was like "fuck being useful" but then if he was scum and he targeted me he'd have to out scum since I (or even others) where 99% more likely to be targeted.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:43 am
by RachMarie
um NERO OPEN YOUR EARS SHE TARGETED ME dude

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:47 am
by No Retreat
Toog isn't a she

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:50 am
by No Retreat
a50 also isn't a she

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:59 am
by RachMarie
oops sorry just finished the blood pressure report for the client

meant he

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:00 am
by Almost50
In post 8008, No Retreat wrote:I really really hope a50 didn't target me.
I did not, and I will not. This is part of why I was so careful picking my targets and thus having not ended up killing someone each night. I don't even think we are considered threats to each other, simply because the wording of the PM says "all threats to the XX FACTION" as a win con. You are NOT a threat to the Northern Tribes as a whole, just me. Also, it says that all 3 nations and champions have united, so the killing each other is just a negative utility, not a goal for me to achieve.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:02 am
by RachMarie
And nero I believe you had a full doc protecting you

so yeah

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 am
by Almost50
In post 8009, No Retreat wrote:I also sorta wanna policy lynch/vig Bcade. I mean there is a line of thought that says he's town b/c instead of taking orders and being a good little townie he did what he wanted and was like "fuck being useful" but then if he was scum and he targeted me he'd have to out scum since I (or even others) where 99% more likely to be targeted.
Mate, do NOT answer this, but check your PM at the start of the day. If you lost your BP cover then you were targeted. If not, then you were not. If you check the role PM you'd see the BP is activated BEFORE any other protection, so unless you've been hit before, Toog would not have died protecting you from a single attempt on your life. Your BP should have absorbed it first.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:04 am
by No Retreat
I must have missed the doc claim.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:05 am
by Almost50
I do have mine intact, btw.. so no need for any protective role to be on me tonight.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:30 am
by No Retreat
3. Bacde-undead watcher
7. Almost50-north champ
12. davesaz-???
14. Wake88-north something, culted by Rach
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)-Individual Human Oracle
16. No Retreat (Nero Cain + Yume)-lord Cain champion of the east and mankind's Savior
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)-hybrid champ, miller
20. rb-Individual Human miller?
23. Expedience-individual undead
25. TheWayItEnds-???
26. DrippingGoofball-????
28. RachMarie-individual nos freechechker and roleblocker

^is right I think.

sometimes I think that Individual means Individual as in one. Like all the the town is collectively made up of Individuals. If thats correct then both RB and TIM are fake claiming scum and one of Exp/Bacde are scum. I also don't really believe ASOFAI so

3. Bacde-undead watcher
15. Tim (Iecerint + ActionDan)-Individual Human Oracle
17. A Song of Ice and Fire (Frozen Angel + Firebringer)-hybrid champ, miller
20. rb-Individual Human miller?
23. Expedience-individual undead
^
4 scum here?



12. davesaz-???
25. TheWayItEnds-???
26. DrippingGoofball-????

^
needs to roleclaim ASAP

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:35 am
by No Retreat
In post 8019, No Retreat wrote:sometimes I think that Individual means Individual as in one. Like all the the town is collectively made up of Individuals.
scratch that

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:50 am
by TheWayItEnds
im a race checker.

i claimed that already.

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:53 am
by No Retreat
i know but what faction are you in etc?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:54 am
by Almost50
In post 8021, TheWayItEnds wrote:im a race checker.

i claimed that already.
yes, but what FACTION are you? And what of your Nation/Location?

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:57 am
by Expedience
In post 8005, No Retreat wrote:
In post 7981, Expedience wrote:I don't know who is scum other than rb
:shifty:

This is starting to be a common refrain from you. Like yesterday I was your sole scum read, today RB is your sole scum read. Idk, I just feel like town are far more likely to kinda spiral out and have multiple scumreads. And I think its more likely that scum have LESS scum readsso they are less likely to agitate players. Half the reason that I was scumreading you is b/c I was scumreading RB. RB spent a large chunk of d1 calling you scum and then when Dram flips his reaction is "oh maybe I'm wrong on Exp and Dram was right!" like WTF is that?!? Did you cult him? Are you guys scum buddies?

though Rach will just spout that your Alexis role means you are confirmed town but I think your play has been less than stellar thought I do have a bad habit of looking at bad play as scum play when it might just be bad play. :igmeou:
{asoiaf, davesaz, Tim} are the remaining Suspects

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:59 am
by TheWayItEnds
In post 8022, No Retreat wrote:i know but what faction are you in etc?
I feel like i know (or think i know) of 2 of the factional recruits being used.

did i miss something?

or should we narrow the pool of potential humans to exact size?