STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@SC, Explain that McMenno scumread and the NC townread please SC.

You do also realize by immediately hopping in and chainsawing me you've all but absolved RR from answering the question about who they would vote now?

@Mastina, Kraska hydra and CoolDog as high town? What?

@DGB, The alliance phase is like a pick your neighbor d1. RR wanted us, so we're going along with that. I am curious to see maybe you and Cakey get a hood. You're both null reads at the moment.

[mastin2]

This has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.

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I am in a masonry with SirCakez

so idk how reliable your claim is o.o
~Bee

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Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational

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wat.

[farside22]

You're in my scum pool so no

your loss

@kraskaesque how would you feel about an alliance

lol asking your scum buddy for an alliance?

@Cerby, I feel so lost during this phase knowing scum cannot push anyone. That gives me direction. You two seem bold and leaders. If you could vote, where would you want my vote to be and why? Note:Farside, Mastina, grapes and Klingon don't really seem like good options to me. Whenever I think someone is scummy, they go be all townie and I am all like I dunno.

This has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.

mcmenno's prob town ^_^
(i'll get back to u about allying when lycan comes on)

You should actually explain this.

I'm still open for allying, I wanted to ally with Mastin but that's out the window now.
Almost bby want to ally?

Sure, why not! It's a BIG gamble on my part, I know (bc .. you know .. in the majority of games we were of opposite alignments), but a very good player IMHO and if you're town here then we rock!!

I'll submit the request right now

Ok I sent in the request. It will be worth it.

Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational

Anyone else hasn't made an impression on me

Wait the masons claim was fake!!???!!

Adds obi to scum list.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Fake masons are fake Mastina. It was Beeboy's idea. We are not really masons. Probably should have said so when the lie detector thing happened but I figured Beeboy was doing something with it.

Can you answer my questions about your reads now?

[SirCakez]

@SC, Explain that McMenno scumread and the NC townread please SC.

You do also realize by immediately hopping in and chainsawing me you've all but absolved RR from answering the question about who they would vote now?

McMenno scumread for fishing and awkward as hell reactions when being called out for it
NC townread for posts that look like blatant newbtown (i;e any of it's posts on the first 5 pages)

I'm not chainsawing you?
RR can still answer the question if they want.

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wat.

I thought it was obvious the "masons" were a joke

[SirCakez]

Wait mastin if you thought the Mason claims were legit why did you have both Obi and I in the scumread section of your list earlier?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@Cakey, really, with multiple people calling my question scummy, you think RR will answer? More than likely, they will retreat into their "we never give reads" posture. Yet, people can be read based on the stances they take, even if early or premature.

[SirCakez]

It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etc

[mastin2]

Wait mastin if you thought the Mason claims were legit why did you have both Obi and I in the scumread section of your list earlier?

I think the answer to this should be self-explanatory enough.

[Not Chara]

@SC, Explain that McMenno scumread and the NC townread please SC.

You do also realize by immediately hopping in and chainsawing me you've all but absolved RR from answering the question about who they would vote now?

McMenno scumread for fishing and awkward as hell reactions when being called out for it
NC townread for posts that look like blatant newbtown (i;e any of it's posts on the first 5 pages)

what does 'newbtown' look like? am i doing something wrong?
and, if not, could you elaborate on what you mean by that and how it's different from regular town/scum?

[SirCakez]

Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was town

[farside22]

Wait mastin if you thought the Mason claims were legit why did you have both Obi and I in the scumread section of your list earlier?

Pretty sure she thinks your scum together.
I disagree.

I wish you said that earlier. Obi has been pinging me hard but I thought maybe because I'm just losing it.

[Not Chara]

Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was town

i know the definition, i was asking how it applied to me. still, thank you for the information.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etc

*shrug* Still you neutered it. Half of what I look for is the reactions I get when fishing for reads. Who defends whom? Who votes the opposite wagon under pressure? Push comes to shove, where do the values lie?

Anyone who has played with RR knows that straight up asking them for reads doesn't work and I wanted to sort the nebulous things around them (NC not having a read there). I can and do feel lost without reactions.

We have lost that baseline for judging RR.

[Firebringer]

Guys stop town reading me.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Guys stop town reading me.

Adopt the name Titus.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB
Think of it like a Day Zero.

There's also a mechanic to alliance with someone but you need to target mutually.

Ah OK

Is Titus available?

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: quote

This has already been pointed out by multiple people but this is painfully scummy. Titus is never this floppy as town.
And Beeboy has barely posted since gamestart which is very worrisome.

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I am in a masonry with SirCakez

so idk how reliable your claim is o.o
~Bee

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Time for some early reads!
Town pool = Fire, Not Chara, mastin, grapes, farside
Scum pool = Mcmenno, kraskaesque, obi
Special slot who gets their own corner because I can't read them = reasonably rational

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wat.

You just figured out they were lying? I got that the moment it was posted.
I can name three games beeboy has lied about Mason's with players

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@DGB
Think of it like a Day Zero.

There's also a mechanic to alliance with someone but you need to target mutually.

Ah OK

Is Titus available?

Sorry, we are with RR.

[Firebringer]

Guys stop town reading me.

Adopt the name Titus.

I could never be titus. Titus is my opposite.
But I still deserve to be scum read damn it!

[Not Chara]

You freaking said "lone scum" when talking about another player and a hypothetical alliance with a hydra. It looks like a legit slip. What is there to explain? The whole explanation made no sense.

Did you miss the part where the alliance isn't hypothetical and the hydra is us?
And "lone scum" was a hypothetical, we're explaining why we don't think that is the case here

Where's the supposed slip?

i was waiting for Rational to answer this, but i haven't seen them.

i don't understand the problem here. kraska is townreading McMenno (i don't agree with the read, but that isn't the point) because he wanted to ally with them, a hydra. and the hypothetical scum McMenno would have a more difficult (supposedly) time convincing two town players, than he would just one.
i saw another player question that reasoning for the townread, which is fine, but i have no clue where Rational got this being a scum slip from.

[Firebringer]

because he wanted to ally with them, a hydra. and the hypothetical scum McMenno would have a more difficult (supposedly) time convincing two town players, than he would just one.

That's terrible reasoning

[Not Chara]

...i don't agree with it either. but Rational didn't have a problem with a reasoning, they seemed to not understand what kraska was even saying, and was viewing it as a slip.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Guys stop town reading me.

Adopt the name Titus.

I could never be titus. Titus is my opposite.
But I still deserve to be scum read damn it!

Why do we have to be opposites? Why can't we be scumread townies together?

[SirCakez]

Newbtown = someone new to mafia who is making posts that look like thoughts town would make the first time they play mafia
For example you usually see lots of apologizing for little things, analysis over game mechanics, openly discussing reads very early on, etc
It's like how I played in my first forum mafia game where I was town

i know the definition, i was asking how it applied to me. still, thank you for the information.

You were doing these things early on, which is how it applies to you. Thought that was clear, mb.

It's not even the question I found scummy, it was the way it was worded
"oh I don't know what to do my scumreads get all townie all the time give me things to do" etc

*shrug* Still you neutered it. Half of what I look for is the reactions I get when fishing for reads. Who defends whom? Who votes the opposite wagon under pressure? Push comes to shove, where do the values lie?

Anyone who has played with RR knows that straight up asking them for reads doesn't work and I wanted to sort the nebulous things around them (NC not having a read there). I can and do feel lost without reactions.

We have lost that baseline for judging RR.

-_-
They might have still answered it the way you wanted but now they probably won't.