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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:00 pm
by Ircher
In post 2046, mastina wrote:
In post 2026, Ircher wrote:McMenno has so far done nothing constructive AT ALL this game imo. Why do you think he's town?
It's too early to tell for sure, actually. He's not town.
But the reason he's not scum is experience.

Have you
played
with McMenno before?

I have.
Tell me, what's the difference between here, here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Hint: 2 games scum, 6 games town. Which are which?

His posts aren't identical as both alignments, sure.
But they're pretty damn similar.
Fair enough.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:01 pm
by Fate
Has no one considered Vax fakeclaiming to draw out a disruptive role to scum?

Proceed with rope

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:01 pm
by Vaxkiller
In post 2069, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:If we let this go what's stopping us from letting anyone who roleclaims go :neutral:

There's 13 roles obv scum got some...

Pedit:@Ceph
Thats a bold scum move there SAD

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:01 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
Zito talk to me
In post 2076, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
In post 2063, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 2059, SpyreX wrote:I really want someone to call him out but deep inside i know it won't Halen page 150 hoo
bro
What is this btw?

What is the spyrex post anyway?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:05 pm
by SpyreX
In post 2126, Fate wrote:Has no one considered Vax fakeclaiming to draw out a disruptive role to scum?

Proceed with rope
Wellllll that's easy to fix
But lets be real you fake claim that one

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:12 pm
by Vaxkiller
I'm not caught up, but I want to post eavesdrop as it comes in:

peggy: maybe
alice
?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:16 pm
by Accountant
In post 2126, Fate wrote:Has no one considered Vax fakeclaiming to draw out a disruptive role to scum?

Proceed with rope
It clearly isnt succeeding

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:16 pm
by RedCoyote
In post 2126, Fate wrote:Has no one considered Vax fakeclaiming to draw out a disruptive role to scum?

Proceed with rope
Think before you speak.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:47 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
In post 2130, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm not caught up, but I want to post eavesdrop as it comes in:

peggy: maybe
alice
?
Okay so like.

I know if these are real the scum posts are still troll and stuff, so like everything is WIFOM and probably waste of time to focus on these "leaks" (unless like an actual gem is caught).

BUT who are the people that usually post in all smalls?

UT, Mcmenno, hiplop? Sometimes Cephrir, Zito, Firebringer?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:51 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
Unvote

Vote: UT

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:54 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 2122, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Umm.......

Unless obv he's scum.

So we're back to point 0, where his claim didn't change anything.
You still didn't get my point.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:57 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
Well spell it out clearer for the dense people in the crowd.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:59 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I suck too much with words to get through some thicker skulls so I'll leave that to someone else who's better at sentence structuring.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:03 pm
by GreyICE
LLD what did we learn from PYP?

I think he's scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:05 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 2138, GreyICE wrote:LLD what did we learn from PYP?

I think he's scum.
Who?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:05 pm
by Accountant
>actually trying to look for scumtells based on eavesdropped posts

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:08 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 2140, Accountant wrote:>actually trying to look for scumtells based on eavesdropped posts
More time they spent on trolling cos of leaks, less time they spent to talk about something productive.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:12 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2138, GreyICE wrote:LLD what did we learn from PYP?

I think he's scum.
In a giant game when the big wagon starts to disform, it's because town are apathetic about the result and scum are fighting to kill it.

Yeah I'm down.

Vote: Vaxkiller

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:13 pm
by Ser Arthur Dayne
In post 2141, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 2140, Accountant wrote:>actually trying to look for scumtells based on eavesdropped posts
More time they spent on trolling cos of leaks, less time they spent to talk about something productive.
I mean if that's your point, then we're back to square one,

Vaxkiller could be scum with the role and making the shit up himself, leading to no loss in productivity amongst scum chat.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:15 pm
by Accountant
In post 2142, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 2138, GreyICE wrote:LLD what did we learn from PYP?

I think he's scum.
In a giant game when the big wagon starts to disform, it's because town are apathetic about the result and scum are fighting to kill it.

Yeah I'm down.

Vote: Vaxkiller
The wagon started to disform because of the claim; not because of apathy.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:15 pm
by GuyInFreezer
I did mention that in that case he's just a glorified goon in a game filled with power roles.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:28 pm
by xRECKONERx
OH WAIT

VOTE: UT

I think Accountant is scum

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:57 pm
by Accountant
In post 2146, xRECKONERx wrote:OH WAIT

VOTE: UT

I think Accountant is scum
Why?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:08 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2117, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 2110, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 2108, Untrod Tripod wrote:with a heavy dose of making-shit-up-as-I-go-along mixed in.
Man why did you have to say this now

I was baiting him for more
Oh btw the explanation.
In post 1933, Something_Smart wrote:everything he said about me is awful and sounds faked.
> Main reasoning
In post 1941, Something_Smart wrote:It's bad because he's calling me scum. Particularly, he's fixating on my first post and just writing all the others off as not influential to change his read based on that. He "still" wants me to die as if I've been his strongest scumread all game; for that to be true he had to have been hardly reading anything.
> "He
could
be town if he actually barely read anything."
In post 1942, GuyInFreezer wrote:
He "still" wants me to die as if I've been his strongest scumread all game; for that to be true he had to have been hardly reading anything.
And he did admit to hardly reading anything no?
> Presents that he actually barely read anything
In post 1944, Something_Smart wrote:but then he shouldn't be demanding that I be nuked because that's basically asking other people to follow his read that he admits is uninformed and terrible

he's trying to look like he believes in what he's doing when he doesn't
> changes to "he's scum because he barely read anything and pushing the read"
In post 1958, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1955, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 1953, Something_Smart wrote:So I'm assuming that he can't honestly believe in a read that's based on not reading the thread.
I can. Why can't he?
because he explicitly cited having read ALL my posts as the reason for that read.

To be fair, it is possible that he scumreads me based on reading only what I've said. But to have me as his top scumread, to the point where he'd nuke me?

I don't buy it.
> Voila! He finally connected to this altered scenario into his original reasoning of "sounds fake" argument!
this is... super reachy to say the least.
and it's manipulative too, though it doesn't seem like that was intentional.

He's scum because what he said is faked. The reason it's faked is that he seems very convinced that I'm scum despite self-admittedly having not read. Him having me as his strongest scumread means that he either has a clue what's going on or he's making up crap, and it's obvious that he doesn't have a clue, so therefore he's making up crap.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:11 pm
by GuyInFreezer
In post 2148, Something_Smart wrote:and it's manipulative too, though it doesn't seem like that was intentional.
Completely intentional and is manipulative.
Town wouldn't have done what you've done here so yeah