DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Cheetory6]

[Cheetory6]

Hahahahahaha

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We're lynching someone calm yourself.
Vote S_S.

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Actually, mastin check-in and maybe Vaxdump first?

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Vote: Nukebringer

Chugga chugga.

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Why Fate?

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Mafia doesn't have a nightkill yet.

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You actually got the result though?

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SK is a meaniebutt. Discuss.

Why SK?

Mafia doesn't have a nightkill yet.

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SAD in S_S's ISO is pretty bad:

I also support the addition of Sir Arthur Danish and Reck.

I like Cheet and Reck and Nahdia and mastin and Accountant
I kinda like Spiff but not as sure on that one

not gonna touch this LLD-Sir Arthur Danish conflict, yet anyway

Kinda don't like McMenno and MoI
Really don't like Nukebringer and Ircher and Vaxkiller

Sir Danish is pretty obv town.

:/

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I'm kind of upset that mastina might be scum if SAD is scum.

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It's not as good as SADcase, honestly, but Nukebringer's wagonhopping on and off UT/SSwagons was pretty gross. Especially the weird wavering of confidence/lackadaisical attitude toward both:

Spoiler:

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Fine with Something_Smart as well. Don't care for role arguments, but Vaxkiller can die in radioactive ash.

I like both equally. I just picked one.
Though to be completely honest right now I prefer the Something_Smart wagon after that disaster of a series of posts, but I'm not bothered enough to switch unless it's a bigger wagon.

Unvote, Vote: Something_Smart

Actually, I am a little nervous that there's a sizable contingent of players who would lynch anything that moves just to get this game out of Day 1, but, again, I'm not moved enough to do anything about that. I'll maybe consider it after someone flips (would someone please flip).

Did I hear the words "bigger wagon"?

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Unvote, Vote: Something_Smart

If this game gets to page 200 before we even lynch anyone, then I swear by all things that we will nuke Andrius just to end the game for everyone involved.

Unvote, Vote: Untrod Tripod

Anyone. Really. Anyone.

It's obnoxious to have >60 pages to read... I've been pushing reading this thread to the side....

If you stopped writing tons of notes that become as outdated as textbooks at the thrift shop by the time you post them, then maybe reading will go a lot faster.

:flame:

P-Edit: Inb4 UT is SK who killed Fate to free up his nuke. :'D

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Especially hate 2533.

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There's also that I think after all of the stink that Spiff and I have made, there should have been more of a response from Nukebringer in general, but instead they've been pretty muted.

Also also feel like there's a very real possibility that they're trying to abuse hydra dynamics to avoid Fire posting things in the game after he got a lot of heat earlier in the game.

[Cheetory6]

I think GI's mastin push towards the end of the Day was pretty shit

mastina does have a bit of a history of not bussing if I'm not totally incorrect.
And both her extreme "SAD IS TOWN TOWN TOWN" and "S_S is town and I haven't read a single post" are things that I can believe her believing as town, but if they're both scum then it's really very plausible that she was deriving those reads intentionally as scum.

Admittedly, we joined only for the nukes, so having the game drag for days and days burned enthusiasm for both of us. Firebringer not posting is indeed deliberate; I asked him not to when he was about to get into a fight with Lady Lambdadelta because the last thing I want is to be involved in an altercation that gets ugly. I hate Mafia enough as it is.

I'll poke him, but I really don't care for his thoughts on Spiffeh because I still think he's wrong.

I'm really sorry if you did roll scum this game :/

P-Edit: Honestly, I would be voting SAD if I wanted day to end right now, but I'm not sure if I do and I say that as someone who was thinking I wanted a Nukebringer quicklynch going into D2 q.q

[Cheetory6]

Really?
Would it really have been less insufferable?
o.o

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You should probably also claim.

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I'm a little waffled that you're not more upset at MOI making a case on you when you've been calling him scum for so long.
But I mean.
I guess I'd be waffled by anything short of you just spewing obvtown all over the game right now so.
:s

[Cheetory6]

Vaxkiller probably town?
I think?

May I also add for consideration:

I think there's reasons to scumread Nahdia.
I don't really see them in that post you just made.
Can you explain it to me like I'm 7 years old and bad and awful and stupid?

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So like normal?

Yes.

I am concerned by the Fate nk

Y

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SK's mindset could be "who the fuck is going to lolNuke someone for the lols".
Or just wanted a low profile kill.

I don't really know how useful it is to spec on third party at this point anyways.

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Post 2 is valid though isn't it?
Couldn't Nahdia just target herself every night?
If she's scum it would genuinely be a waste of time for GiF to have investigated her either way.

Post 3 seems a little on the nose too. If she was that worried about S_S why not ask mod directly OOT?

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Lol are you for real Fire?

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whats up buddy?

You do nothing all game, and now you're coming back and acting like Spiff scumreading you is weird?
Why would his read have changed?

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It feels like it's been a century since you did something.
>:(

What's the last game-related thing you did?
Do you think your voting record with S_S flip looks good?

[Cheetory6]

That's not really game-related.
And it's the last thing I remember you doing too.
Do you really think that should be read as anything other than null?

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Why is this what you're talking about instead of the SAD wagon when you literally have been shouting from the rooftops that he's town all game?
:/

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You're getting very nuked on D3 if SAD is scum mastin.
:/

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Are you going to stab someone at night?
With a stealth bomber?

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Still, SAD is flipping town. Guarantee you that much.

I know arrogance in assuming you're right after having been right the first day.

Isn't this hypocritical of you to say after S_S?

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Like, you would think you might be like "oh well maybe my reads aren't perfect" after you made a misstep.
Like.
I get that you're mastin and this is like.. how you process stuff.
But just reversing the UT read to town instead of scum doesn't give me incredible amounts of confidence that you're seriously processing what's going on in this game right now >.>

[Cheetory6]

Zzzz.

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TBH.
And I risk being a jerk by saying this.
But trying to convince mastina of something is probably futile.
Like.
In general, I think if she is town here, she's only going to re-evaluate with flips or claims. People's opinions don't really play into it I don't think.
If she's scum well, I don't think she's going to budge her reads in a meaningful way that doesn't play into an agenda.

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Lol.

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You didn't read the wall I made yesterday on the subject.

I did.
I think you process information a lot differently than literally everyone else if this isn't just scum bullshit.
And I guess to some extent it just bewilders me when people hold onto their own ego of their mindset of processing the game when they get something wrong.
When I fuck up hard, I re-evaluate hard and take input.
I don't think I ever see you do that.

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If everyone in the game was telling me my strongest townread was scum.
I pushed someone as scum.
And that person flipped town.
Or
if I called someone town and that person flipped scum.
I would then feel a lot of doubt for a read that everyone else was also feeling was wrong.
I'm not so arrogant to assume the way that I process things is correct. Sometimes I get shit wrong.
You can act like the above process isn't arrogant, but it is.
The way you process reads and process the game is arrogant in its own way, even if you are constantly at odds with your own reads in your head, you're not at odds with your reads as a result of anything anyone else is saying, it's only the thoughts you alone are having regarding them.

[Cheetory6]

Zzzz.

[Cheetory6]

U scum?

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I hate that postlynch is when someone's alignment is most obvious.
:/

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Fuck you spiff you buddying jerk.

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Zzzz. Spiff being scum means nukebringer is maybe town then? That might be stupid but.

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Lol

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also, I believe that keely's stance on nukebringer has been inconsistent in a way that i don't think has a good justification

No it really hasn't.

[Cheetory6]

- Keely isn't strong town (keely?)

That's me.
Hi.

I'm pretty annoyed at EP repeatedly preaching how I should be a townlean instead of a townread, but I don't really understand why he's a leading wagon beyond just him not being all that involved this game?

[Cheetory6]

Yeah I'm getting even more annoyed about that nukebringer shit EP.
Don't throw shit at me if it's just wrong.
Or at least articulate yourself so I can tell you why you're wrong to your face.
>:(

[Cheetory6]

I believe in you Cheeto.

That makes one of us.

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Like, there's a serious lack of me driving the gamestate anyways [hello because I'm fucking UNCONFIDENT AS FUCK TOWN CHEETORY LIKE I ALWAYS AM]
so I seriously don't get why you're so worked up over people townreading me when you don't think I'm likely scum and I'm also not telling people who to lynch.
So.
GHHHHHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[Cheetory6]

Accountant is in this game.
I might throw out my reads and start over.

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Get wrecked scrub.

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Couldn't sk have taken silo and sub?

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Why does SkReck not block ut

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Or wait maybe that's stupid.
I think lld is a weird block at least for sk.

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Am I the only one who really doesn't think wreck lolnukes ut here? Sk is supposed to play low profile.

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I can't think of something dumber for SkReck to do at this stage.

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Who owns that sub lld? Is it the sk or auto or skzito killing himself?

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Thanks phone. I wanted you to say auto instead of zito.

Pedit: ...

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Ut is saying reck is submarine killing him as sk. I'm saying reck sk is an idiot playing like shit if he is because it draws negative attention to himself for no reason and I don't think he'd do that.

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There's also that acc is one of the biggest threats to scum in the game and I'd like scum to have to deal with it.

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Sometimes I mistake a mafia game for site chat.
Oh wait jk.

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You guys are dumb and aren't reading.

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Why don't we get serious about end of day murdering when midday murdering finishes?

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utility nuked. nice.

You picked the role.
Not sure why you're surprised by the sentiment at all.

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Why do you have to be so genial.

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I honestly don't think mastin was lying about that.

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We get at least one more extra Lynch today. Isn't that fun.

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Spoiler: Forgive Me Ceph

Vaxkiller [11] -

Ser Arthur Dayne

, SpyreX,

Fate

, Cephrir,

Spiffeh

, GreyICE, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Accountant, xRECKONERx,

RedCoyote

Untrod Tripod [5] - Ircher, mastina,

Something_Smart

, Papa Zito, Cheetory6

Ser Arthur Dayne

[2] - Lady Lambdadelta, Vaxkiller
Ircher [2] - McMenno,

ErrantParabola

Something_Smart

[2] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

Untrod Tripod [7] - mastina, Papa Zito, Cheetory6,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, xRECKONERx, Nukebringer, SpyreX

Something_Smart

[7] - GuyInFreezer, Untrod Tripod,

RedCoyote

, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion,

Spiffeh

Vaxkiller [3] - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta,

Fate

Ircher [2] - McMenno,

ErrantParabola

McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] -

Something_Smart

SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, Nahdia

Something_Smart

[8] -

RedCoyote

, Cephrir, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion,

Spiffeh

, Untrod Tripod, GuyInFreezer, Nukebringer
Untrod Tripod [6] - mastina, Cheetory6,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Fate, Nahdia, McMenno
mastina [3] - Lady Lambdadelta, SpyreX, Papa Zito
Ircher [1] -

ErrantParabola

Vaxkiller [1] - GreyICE
McMenno [1] - Ircher
GuyInFreezer [1] -

Something_Smart

SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller

Not Voting [2] - hiplop, xRECKONERx

Untrod Tripod [10] - mastina,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Nahdia, McMenno, hiplop,

ErrantParabola

, Accountant, Nukebringer, Ircher, MagnaofIllusion

Something_Smart

[5] -

RedCoyote

, Cephrir,

Spiffeh

, Untrod Tripod, GuyInFreezer,

Fate

mastina [4] - Lady Lambdadelta, SpyreX, Papa Zito, GreyICE
GuyInFreezer [1] -

Something_Smart

SpyreX [1] - Vaxkiller

Not Voting [2] - xRECKONERx, Cheetory6

Something_Smart

[10] -

RedCoyote

, Cephrir,

Spiffeh

, Untrod Tripod, GuyInFreezer,

Fate

, SpyreX, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, GreyICE
Untrod Tripod [8] - mastina,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Nahdia, McMenno, hiplop,

ErrantParabola

, Nukebringer, Ircher
mastina [2] - Lady Lambdadelta, Papa Zito
GuyInFreezer [1] -

Something_Smart

Not Voting [3] - xRECKONERx, Cheetory6, Vaxkiller

Untrod Tripod [11] - mastina,

Ser Arthur Dayne

, Nahdia, McMenno, hiplop,

ErrantParabola

, Ircher,

Something_Smart

, Vaxkiller,

Fate

,

Spiffeh

Something_Smart

[7] -

RedCoyote

, Untrod Tripod, GuyInFreezer, Accountant, MagnaofIllusion, Nukebringer, Cephrir
mastina [3] - Lady Lambdadelta, Papa Zito, SpyreX
Lady Lambdadelta [1] - GreyICE

Not Voting [2] - xRECKONERx, Cheetory6

Ser Arthur Dayne

[12] - MagnaofIllusion,

RedCoyote

, Vaxkiller, hiplop, GuyInFreezer, Lady Lambdadelta, xRECKONERx, Cephrir, Nahdia, Ircher, GreyICE, McMenno
Nukebringer [3] - Cheetory6,

Spiffeh

, Untrod Tripod

RedCoyote

[1] - mastina

Not Voting [6] - Everyone else

[Cheetory6]

Is someone townreading Accountant right now?
I would love for them to throw words at me about it if so.

[Cheetory6]

Well, I can talk more about it tonight when I'm back from work, but the SS votes dropped on D1 are kind of awkward and the Spiff/Accountant interactions are especially weird.
Accountant calls Spiff weird.
Spiff doesn't respond. [which is pretty non-standard Spiff behavior, I would seriously expect him to either try to discredit or dissuade someone]
Accountant then proceeds to hard-defend Spiff for the rest of the game.
Spiff puts Accountant in the top tier of his top block without having commented on him at all beforehand.

Really just feels like the sort of interactions that I can see Spiff going for and Accountant trying to deal with it and it maybe not working out as cleanly as either of them would have liked.
Entirely possible that Spiff just felt like Accountant would be easier to ignore than to push but just.. no reaction just feels more like he feels like Accountant is no threat because he knows he's no threat via scumbuddy. I suspect Spiff is like me in that he tends to skim his scumbuddies' posts because they're not as important to what he's trying to accomplish as scum.

I'm also feeling that Accountant's votes have that air of scum bussing where they feel they need to. Especially the hops on and off the SS wagon.

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He's also entirely been a non-entity since D1.
Could be trying to coast through on his universal townread status.

P-Edit: You should nuke who you want to nuke.
Or clean out some trash like McMenno.
Unless you're strongly scumreading Accountant, I'd like a wagon to happen there to see how it grows/how people resist it.

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I don't like having a lot of agency in games >.>
Let me get really confident about something before you ask me to aim your nuke.

[Cheetory6]

I'd say LLD is a scumlean and maybe a valid nuke [other than the fact that she probably isn't going to die if someone nukes her], but I'm also wondering if like 75% of the playerlist is scum right now so that's also a thing.

[Cheetory6]

At least I'm not asking someone to choose my actions for me.

[Cheetory6]

I think LLD is town

Weren't you just saying that LLD is scum? q.q

[Cheetory6]

Anything else? Hmmm. LLD still feels a bit scum to me. Got little else.

q.q

[Cheetory6]

Nuke is there something tangible about McMenno that you're confident about in terms of him not being scum?

[Cheetory6]

Also, GI, same question but with LLD.

[Cheetory6]

So you think it's reasonably more likely than not that McMenno would recall as town vs scum?

[Cheetory6]

See, Accountant. The nice thing is that I don't have to deal with people being coy. And it's not just because Nukebringer might nuke you if I ask him to.

[Cheetory6]

Dumb case huh? Well. I guess I'd have to be pretty dumb to do this.

Nuke: Accountant

[Cheetory6]

I don't really have to, do I?

[Cheetory6]

Just for fun let's see what your response is! You know, honestly, dumb 'ol me just doesn't really get it.

Frankly I don't see what Spyrex has to do with anything here, let alone him calling Spiff town out of the blue!

When A calls B weird, that's a super vague and toothless threat, especially when not backed by a vote. Spiffeh had no reason to stick his neck out by going out of his way to throw shade on me.

Gosh I suppose Spiff had no reason to stick his neck out when I gave him a little bit of shit without a vote either.
Almost like those reactions are completely different for different reasons!

Do you have any examples of my scum bussing mystical aura?

I'm yawning at you.
That's literally what my response is to this.

If you're going to call my shit stupid, don't respond with dumber shit.
Thanks.

[Cheetory6]

And you're a silly goose.
GiF has been pushing a cop inno on hip.

[Cheetory6]

Except I didn't say you townreading Spiff was bad.

[Cheetory6]

It's hard to read when you're flailing, isn't it?

[Cheetory6]

[Guess who]

[Cheetory6]

What? I thought it was sabotaged??

[Cheetory6]

Well, glad that GI is town at least?
I think?

[Cheetory6]

"I'm GI and I'm almost certainly dead and I'm going to drop a bunch of content and stuff that feels kind of genuine-ish as I die because man tons of reason for that."

P-Edit: So, Spyrex blocks the Zito nuke and then nukes him anyway?

[Cheetory6]

I generally feel like people are easiest to read as they think they're about to die.
GI felt a lot townier than scummier these last few pages.

[Cheetory6]

Oh durrr.
I'm getting my roles mixed up.

[Cheetory6]

????
Why?
Zito and Nukebringer both had been targeted by nukes at the time of submarine launch.

[Cheetory6]

So, GI just wasn't reading at the time he decided to launch the submarine or thought that double nuking Zito was a good call?

[Cheetory6]

Ceph.
If you were reading mastin's posts, you would know that she has a plan.
Ok?

[Cheetory6]

What happens if Accountant flips scum.
Do I get a cookie?

[Cheetory6]

You have reservations ON ME?!?!?!?!?!?
What the heck

P-Edit: I will more just be emotionally happy that you would send me cookies at all tbh.

[Cheetory6]

Nahdia you were talking up/down your ability to read Accountant.
Where you at there.

[Cheetory6]

I'm getting bored with trying to play as well as I know I should.
And I figure there's no better way to get someone in the spotlight than making it entirely up to me canceling my nuke as to whether they blow the fuck up.

So you’ve just come off having Spiffeh buddy you hard and this didn’t ping you even a little bit?

I play really town when I'm town.
I expect a lot of people to buddy me.
And coming from Zito it made sense.
Really made sense for Spiff to as well from both alignments.

[Cheetory6]

"bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark bark"
bark bark bark bark

I think lassie is trying to tell us something.

[Cheetory6]

As in it's a weird spillover from your initial stance on him. But okay, move the goalposts however you want, the outrage is pretty fucking lame when you're cherrypicking things to be pissed about.

[Cheetory6]

Fuck true how do I cancel my nuke. I'm too stupid with my stupid points.

[Cheetory6]

Man yeah that's definitely what I'm saying Accountant!

[Cheetory6]

You realize insulting me is probably the #1 way to make me not give a shit about whether you're town or scum? Almost like.. fuck you.

[Cheetory6]

I really don't care if my reads are bad. I feel marginally okay about you being scum pre-shot and post-shot I just don't care because you're being an awful person but hey I knew that before this game.

[Cheetory6]

Isn't it fun when we get me mad? Isn't it?

In the future he's probably going to be dead, sorry RECK.

[Cheetory6]

I probably won't. If I was purely going through with it because I thought Accountant was scum at this point, I might. But.

P-Edit: You sure seem sorry.

[Cheetory6]

Just call me scum. It's probably easier than appealing to my sense of decency after calling me an idiot multiple times.

[Cheetory6]

Looks like someone else has some insane/bad reads too.

[Cheetory6]

Oh.

[Cheetory6]

I feel smart and stupid at the same time.

[Cheetory6]

I really don't get why Nukebringer didn't shoot someone more prolific than that. What even.

[Cheetory6]

UT is like the golden pinnacle of town unless he's the biggest conniving scumface in the world.

[Cheetory6]

If someone like GiF is scum, he's gonna run out of space pretty quickly unless we get super duper nukehappy.

[Cheetory6]

I feel really bad for scum if Nahdia is scum.
3 nukes and counterintelligence would be a shit roll for them.

[Cheetory6]

I'm still just really confused as to why Nukebringer played the way they did as they were dying.

[Cheetory6]

McMenno is on my shitlist because the nuke cancel could have been a big giant huge "lol look how not scummates we are" setup, thinking that McMenno would go first over Nukebringer.
mastin's reads have also been so absolutely terrible in a way that makes me think she might just be scum.

[Cheetory6]

Why would Nukebringer nuke Ircher god that shit makes no sense q.q
Unless like the entire scumteam is all nukes and they want maximal nuke-coverage?

[Cheetory6]

We can just hope that people not reading like hiplop and SK kill all of scum for us?

[Cheetory6]

Ceph, there's also that mastin "forgetting" to cancel her nuke is pretty god awful too.
I don't really know how far mastin can get by on just having tone that seems like mastin's tone.

P-Edit: Fate?
Also, honestly, yeah I think Nahdia is a low priority sort at this point. Short of her somehow being SK, I think even if she is scum, she's not likely making it to endgame.

[Cheetory6]

[And I also kind of think her being scum would be a little too easy in terms of gamestate but that might be stupid]

[Cheetory6]

I can see scumNahdia not using her ability in spite of having it.
But I mean.
Still not highest priority in terms of all of the other shit going on.

[Cheetory6]

Like, to put this in perspective, lets say Nahdia is scum and interferes with a result on N1 or N2 and GiF gets a false guilty.
Best case, on D3, Nahdia is dead with maybe 1 mislynch as a result while nukes are still a thing.
Honestly doesn't seem worth it at all, especially with S_S lynch on D1.

[Cheetory6]

Or I guess in the example of lawyering, with so many nukes in play, I guess she could be lawyering widely townread players like Spiff, would still run the risk of being tracked by EP while he was alive though.

[Cheetory6]

While they were alive*
Zzzzz.

[Cheetory6]

Kind of feel like you are?
Either way, you've already established that the only thing you can realistically do at this stage is lawyer a potential partner if you are scum anyway which isn't really all that scary at this stage.

[Cheetory6]

He's also been VLA for a while?

[Cheetory6]

Yeah do you really get to judge people or pretend to judge people after SS, Spiff and Nukebringer have all flipped scum?

[Cheetory6]

And really lets extend that to RC, Papa Zito, Fate and EP have all flipped town?
And GiF is probably town too?

[Cheetory6]

Not even talking about you in that post.

[Cheetory6]

Vote: McMenno

[Cheetory6]

You could have nuked me.
That would have been nice of you.

[Cheetory6]

Lol.

[Cheetory6]

How in the fuck was doc not on either of them.

[Cheetory6]

mastin.
If you're town.
I'm going to be so fucking disappointed in everything about everything you've done this game.
Jesus fucking christ.

[Cheetory6]

Like, if Ceph is town, and you're also town, that will literally mean every single read you've had this game has been wrong other than SAD.

[Cheetory6]

I think start of day D3 nuke on mastin would have probably been higher utility than basically anything else that happened.

[Cheetory6]

Would it take 48 hours for a nuke to travel from me to me?

[Cheetory6]

Lol.

[Cheetory6]

I could drop a nuke on hiplop.
I feel pretty numb about the idea of using it on anyone else at this point.

[Cheetory6]

I would probably only do it right now if everyone wanted me to anyways.

[Cheetory6]

Nuking before getting claims with that logic makes absolutely no sense.

[Cheetory6]

Mastin please flip scum.
Please.
Please do it.

[Cheetory6]

Can you use your submarine to shoot someone else too?

[Cheetory6]

hip use ur ship

[Cheetory6]

You removed all of your agency by using your nuke.

[Cheetory6]

Man Reck.
I really wish you'd blocked hip :/

[Cheetory6]

Zzzzz.
mastin's probably not flipping scum.

[Cheetory6]

For being obvtown :/ I guess that's where I went wrong, I don't think about mechanical stuff.

What other role was so great that they'd be afraid of it? Missile Silo seems better than everything except cop and doc at this point does it not?

RECK?
:/

[Cheetory6]

:V

[Cheetory6]

What makes Ceph seem town to you. Or rather. How are you looking at actions from last night and not at least raising an eyebrow at him. q.q

[Cheetory6]

sam could be the ascetic role?

[Cheetory6]

If roleblock can't affect nightkills from either scum or SK that's really dumb.
:/

[Cheetory6]

LLD and Spyrex are my kneejerk scumreads.

I really don't see why Nahdia/you/Vax are out of the pile though.
Like, sure? I flux between thinking there's townie moments from you and Nahdia and to some extent I struggle to imagine Vax being able to come up with all of this for so long.
But that's literally nothing that would make me pull all of you out of the sortpile entirely. That's fucking ridiculous.

[Cheetory6]

I think I need to stop playing mafia.

[Cheetory6]

Wishing for a scumflip won't make one materialize. The SAD lynch should have taught you that.

Man fuck right off.
-.-

[Cheetory6]

Like, seriously, fuck off with your shitty egotistical shit.

[Cheetory6]

1 NK N2. Lands on scum.
Only BP or doc could stop the other.

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because he is a huge candidate for being scum with one of the three.

Sure!

[Cheetory6]

Three scum with nukes have flipped.
If we're going to do lame as fuck probabilities that mean nothing, then I must be town then.

[Cheetory6]

Almost as if warbling over role distribution is fucking nonsense.

[Cheetory6]

I might as well roll a bunch of dice and point at them for how likely it is people are scum or town.

[Cheetory6]

But LLD.
You've seen the role distribution.
If all of the other people who have nukes are town, that means that I assuredly am confirmed scum.
Sorry.
GI lynch must wait for my lynch.

[Cheetory6]

He was talking like he thought he was going to die.

[Cheetory6]

How in the fuck are you lecturing me right now.
Seriously.
Fuck off mastin.

[Cheetory6]

We're not playing another game together.
Seriously.
You're so fucking pretentious it's fucking unreal/
Your reads and play have been fucking GARBAGE THIS GAME.
SO GARBAGE.
SO BAD.
AND YOU HAVE THE FUCKING NERVE.
THE NERVE
TO ACT LIKE YOU CAN FUCKING TELL PEOPLE HOW THE FUCK TO PLAY.
GOD
SERIOUSLY.

[Cheetory6]

My play is fucking bad this game.
I won't even argue against it.
I'm fucking tired of mafia.
And I'm fucking especially tired of shit like what you're espousing like you're the fucking grandest person in the fucking world.
Like, you've had a single fucking right read.
A SINGLE ONE.
A SINGLEEE ONE.
AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO GIVE ME SHIT ABOUT MY PLAY.
I can't even fuck you.

[Cheetory6]

Like, fucking hell.
Mafia is literally just fucking luck and likeability 90% of the time at fucking best.
And you have this shitty fucking attitude of acting like you know what the fuck you're doing when you clearly don't ever.
I'm so fucking tired man.
So fucking tired.

[Cheetory6]

Yeah fucking ignore me mastin.
Whatever.
You're just so fucking constantly full of shit.

[Cheetory6]

That means I don't have time to sugarcoat things. No time to be nice. No time to do this the long way. No time to push this over time, gradually get what I need.

Do you know how out of my way I've played this game to be nice to you.
And to ask people to not be shit at you because of how fucking outrageous you play this fucking game.

[Cheetory6]

The only thing I've really considered is that I hate playing mafia and that I really hate playing with you.
And that's maybe unfair.
But also, really, fuck your attitude when it comes to this game.

[Cheetory6]

When in the fuck did I say that.
What even.

[Cheetory6]

"Huh. Guess I'll have to look at GreyICE again then".

Woah. Can't believe I said that ever.
I don't even remember doing that.

[Cheetory6]

I really don't have to do anything anyone tells me to.
If this is seriously how this game is going to go, I'm going to nuke however the fuck I want to.

[Cheetory6]

Not answering.
Is it because I'm scum or because I'm unstable?
Only way to find out is by lynching me because you used your fucking nuke like an idiot.

[Cheetory6]

Sorry Spy.
In a bad place.
mastin being full on fucking awful as fuck is making it worse and I should probably just commit to not playing mafia anymore.

[Cheetory6]

You probably shouldn't.

[Cheetory6]

I would like to look at a mafia game and think "oh man I'm really interested and invested in solving a mystery that I feel confident that I can solve beyond just random chance".
Would you like me to pretend that that's the case?
Because sorry, I've literally looked at this game for fucking ages and my best guess for scum yesterday was Accountant when I launched my nuke and the entire time that it was in the air I was pretending that I was still confident about it.
Would you like me to continue pretending to be confident about stuff that I literally feel numb about?
Because the only thing I feel right now is resentment towards someone who somehow is acting like they can be confident about something when they've literally fucked up the entire game if they are town and still has terrible reads if they are town.

[Cheetory6]

It's literally beyond my comprehension how you can chide people for the SAD lynch when your reads have literally all been wrong otherwise.

[Cheetory6]

I could nuke hiplop and then the odds of that happening are lower.
But for some reason people want me to nuke GI when that's literally fucking stupid as hell.

[Cheetory6]

Not yet.

[Cheetory6]

vote: LLD

[Cheetory6]

Here's the deal.

The only vote I'm voting is LLD from here on out.
The only nuke I'm launching is at hiplop.

If you don't like it?
You can lynch me.

End of story.
K.
Thanks.
Bye.
Cheers.

[Cheetory6]

Lynch me.
I fucking dare you.

[Cheetory6]

Because you being oh so manipulative of this gamestate is just so town, right?

[Cheetory6]

Nuke: hiplop

[Cheetory6]

Have another one.

[Cheetory6]

Hahahaha.
That's fucking awesome.

[Cheetory6]

How's your fucking micromanagement going now LLD?

[Cheetory6]

It's still pretty bad.
Being upset is a little better than the numbness I've had for about a month now so there's that.

[Cheetory6]

It's okay.
I kind of asked for her to react.
And frankly, there's probably worse she could have said.
So.

[Cheetory6]

It's really depressing that my frustration is one of my best towntells.

P-Edit: I wouldn't fake being depressed in a mafia game.
I could be scum who is also simultaneously depressed and hating themselves, but seriously, I wouldn't fucking fake it.

[Cheetory6]

Or maybe it's real, but he's exploiting it for sympathy.

Yeah fucking good luck pushing this angle.
Jesus Christ like you seriously thought this would be a point that would resonate with people?
Who the fuck says this? Lol.

[Cheetory6]

You probably shouldn't need to try all that hard.
My towngame is really easy to read.

[Cheetory6]

I have so many things that I could say to this post that would be hurtful.

I was queued up in the SE thread for some hurtful statements.
By all means.

[Cheetory6]

I would love to be banned.
I wouldn't be playing mafia anymore.

[Cheetory6]

@Andrius

, if someone who had been targeted by the ACC used their sub, would they be informed that it failed or would everyone be informed that it failed?

[Cheetory6]

Oh well, it doesn't matter I don't need to sort you any further because you're dying.

It hasn't occurred to you that if you get lynched, and you do flip town, there's really no incentive for us to actually listen to what your reads were.
Especially considering your reads seem like they're generally based off of who's pushing you at the time.

[Cheetory6]

There's also that hiplop is the SK, so postulating about GI being the SK feels pretty ridiculous.

[Cheetory6]

At least I don't pretend to have good reads when they're literally just being upset at people.

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Looks like it's annoying when people are reductive, isn't it?