PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[ooba]

I'd like Ooba to answer this question: Did your own ability cause your predecessor to survive that lynch or was it something outside your control?

Own Ability

And i'd like to know where you and fonz stand about mass claiming ..

[cicero]

Mass claiming: I was fairly down with it a while ago. Whenever Wherever. But so's you know, I deal with mass claims on a cop and doc basis. So who we still need to hide. Let's see:

The dead include:

Protectors

Xtoxm (replaced Sir Tornado) - Bruce Lee (Ninja Protector) - Lightsabered Night 2
Thok - Gandalf (Goblin Protector) - arm cleanly sliced off and skulled bashed in Night 3

Finders

DrippingGoofball - Jack Aubrey (Pirate Finder) - forced to walk the plank Night 1
Twomz - Bilbo Baggins (Goblin Finder) - filled full of rocks Night 4
Mgm - Sonny Chiba (Ninja Finder) - keelhauled Night 3


And all the pirates are dead (ahem. I called Rougeben. In your face CES)

So that means no cops and no docs need to remain hidden.

Therefore it makes absolutely no sense to

not

mass claim and the people who have opposed it today are fairly obviously scum.

Much love,

Cicero

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

More information is not always a good thing, cicero.

We aren't going to win this game without a scum crosskill. If the mass claim gives us any insight into alignment, then that'll probably lead to scum killing the wrong people.

[Lawrencelot]

I don't understand much from the discussion between CES, the Fonz and cicero, yet I feel it's important. CES, did you claim pirate protector or not?

I don't mind massclaiming.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I did not.

[Mr Stoofer]

Vote Count

Primate: 1 (Thesp)

Not voting: 8 (UltimaAvalon, ooba, The Fonz, Lawrencelot, Primate, cicero, Cogito Ergo Sum, Kison)

5 to lynch!

Deadline will be ~4th April.

As things presently stand, Primate would be lynched at deadline.

[Lawrencelot]

Alright, time for some action. I think everybody should clearly say whether he thinks we should massclaim or not. Add yourself to the list.

Massclaim: yay or nay?

Lawrencelot: yay

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

If you're voting "yay", then I'd like to see you respond to this:

If the mass claim gives us any insight into alignment, then that'll probably lead to scum killing the wrong people.

My vote is a definite "nay".

[Thesp]

If you're voting "yay", then I'd like to see you respond to this:

If the mass claim gives us any insight into alignment, then that'll probably lead to scum killing the wrong people.

My vote is a definite "nay".

I agree on this entirely, even though I still think CESscum is being deliberately obtuse and is refusing to talk about his partner, even in circumspect ways.

People need to vote. Now. Let's get some action going - make your best guesses.

[cicero]

Sure.

Vote:

a guy who doesnt seem to want to talk to us anymore

ultima avalon/b]

Thought on the game, UA?

[cicero]

Vote: ultima avalon

FOS: CES

but I want more interaction from quiet players before doing more in that direction.

[The Fonz]

I'm going to be away from my computer until wednesday afternoon. Since that is just over 48hrs, I thought I'd post to let everyone know.

[Mr Stoofer]

UltimaAvalon has been prodded. Hard.

[Kison]

I'm leaning towards one of UA or Primate myself. I didn't like a lot of what Primate was pushing yesterday, and his sudden radio silence after being asked some follow-up questions felt like a cheap out card to play.

I'd like both to chime in before I place my vote. If they don't... *clenches fist*

I don't get much of a scummyish feeling from Lawrence/Cicero. Fonz is minorish. Thesp I'm still holding off on because of the crosskill rule and his miraculous circumvention of it. None of the four dismissed.

CES right under Primate/UA. Need to reread Ooba.

Kison's town. Don't vote that guy.

[cicero]

Kison: Good point about Thesp and the cross-kill rule. That makes me feel better about Thesp as town. I know it had been stated before but I forgot it.

[Primate]

I'm leaning towards one of UA or Primate myself. I didn't like a lot of what Primate was pushing yesterday, and his sudden radio silence after being asked some follow-up questions felt like a cheap out card to play.

Yeah, I'm sorry about my lurking. Slipping back into bad habits. I'll make my case against you now.

I'm against the mass-claim because we have two confirmed innocents in the game, one in the form of the pirate protector, and the other in the form of the vanilla townie. We out them, and regardless of how small the game is, the scum

will

kill them instead of each other. If we run up the townie and the PP today, then I'll be in favour of a mass claim of the remaining people, but I just don't think the benefit outweighs the cost at this point.

[Thesp]

I'm leaning towards one of UA or Primate myself. I didn't like a lot of what Primate was pushing yesterday, and his sudden radio silence after being asked some follow-up questions felt like a cheap out card to play.

Yeah, I'm sorry about my lurking. Slipping back into bad habits. I'll make my case against you now.

I'm against the mass-claim because we have two confirmed innocents in the game, one in the form of the pirate protector, and the other in the form of the vanilla townie. We out them, and regardless of how small the game is, the scum

will

kill them instead of each other. If we run up the townie and the PP today, then I'll be in favour of a mass claim of the remaining people, but I just don't think the benefit outweighs the cost at this point.

Who do you think is scum? Care to place a vote? Care to talk about anyone in any meaningful fashion so as to move the game along, or are you content to sit and stall?

[Primate]

Thesp, did you read the first bit of that post where I said I was, at present (as in literally, now), making a case against Kison? Does that answer your questions?

[Thesp]

Thesp, did you read the first bit of that post where I said I was, at present (as in literally, now), making a case against Kison? Does that answer your questions?

I missed that. It helps - it's going somewhere. Who else do you think is scum? There are presumably 4 out there.

[Primate]

I don't feel comfortable doing Pirate/Ninja, but it'd be

Town

cicero
ooba
Thesp

Neutral

The Fonz
Lawrencelot
Cogito Ergo Sum

Scummy

Kison
UltimaAvalon

A few things regarding that, though. Firstly is that if I had to pick people out of the two neutrals, it'd probably be Lawrence and C.E.S, though I'd have to do a lot of reading there and I'd still only pick those two because I think that Fonz has been the towniest. There's also something else which I don't want to talk about at the minute, but that shouldn't influence any of the questions you might want to ask me.

[Thesp]

This is more helpful, but I'd advise against town lists right now. (I know, too late, I shouldn't have myself, etc.) I'm interested in who the four scum are more than the town right now.

Thanks.

[Primate]

FYI I am on/off doing the kison case, but I haven't stopped yet.

[Kison]

plzhuryi m telbming infear

[Kison]

Oh, and if I had to choose four...

1) UA
2) Primate
3) CES
4) Ooba

[Primate]

plzhuryi m telbming infear

Interesting you attribute machismo to your ability to avoid being lynched over your ability to find scum.