Mini 578 - Mistery at Montescuro - Game Over!

[VampanezeHunter]

Woops. Sorry ws on holiday. Here I am anyway so Random

Vote:JamesThePhox

...um...because his avatar looks like a wolf?

[Claus]

A fair and balanced votecount. Almost.

Vote Count!

Near 1 - Dasquian
Dasquian 1 - Joudas
Yossarian2 1 - Sensfan
EvilGorilaz 1 - Guardian
Joudas 1 - Evil Gorilaz
Guardian 1 - Macavenger
Sensfan 1 - Singing Librarian
Singing Librarian 1 - Pyrodwarf
Macavenger 1 - JamesthePhox
JamesthePhox 1 - VampanezeHunter

Not voting:

Yossarian2, Near

[Yosarian2]

Hey, all. No random vote yet.

Hey guys! Lots of familiar faces, even thought many are new ones. This should be fun .

Yeah, agreed. It's been ages since I've played a non-newbie game with this many people I don't know; that's mostly why I signed up for a mini normal, in fact. This should be fun

[Guardian]

Heh, Yos, you don't agree with me as much as you think -- 6 of the players are new acquaintances of mine, from mafia discussion, or my moding their newbie games (or IC newbie games), or ICing in their newbie games.

So they are new familiar faces. What do you think of that!?

And why no random vote?

[Yosarian2]

Heh, Yos, you don't agree with me as much as you think -- 6 of the players are new acquaintances of mine, from mafia discussion, or my moding their newbie games (or IC newbie games), or ICing in their newbie games.

So they are new familiar faces. What do you think of that!?

Ok, then you should have a good meta for them; let me know when you figure out who's scum.

And why no random vote?

meh. I random vote about half the time.

[Guardian]

Let's leave the discussion on meta out of this thread, for now... I legitimately am coming to the opinion that using meta is a bad policy.

Yos, why random vote only half the time?

[JamesThePhox]

@ VampHunter: It looks like a wolf? Well it was marked as "Arctic Fox" when I uploaded it.

I don't know most of you guys so hopefully this is for no one in particular, but: I hate lurking, and find it scummy if done deliberately. I'm going to be doing my best to hunt scum, but I won't be letting any lurkers go unnoticed or unpressured. Do us all a favour and don't make that the topic of conversation

Agreed.

[SensFan]

Hello, everyone. My, isn't this civil?

Vote: SensFan

for not coming up with a reason for what may or may not be a random vote.

Maybe I have no reason. Maybe I have a Guilty on him. Maybe we shouldn't be speculating on reasoning this early.

[Yosarian2]

Let's leave the discussion on meta out of this thread, for now... I legitimately am coming to the opinion that using meta is a bad policy.

Yos, why random vote only half the time?

Meh. Different reasons. In this case, it didn't seem like another random vote would be helpful. Sometimes I like to random vote on my second post instead of my first, get better reations that way. And sometimes you might not want to random vote at all, like if you don't want to leave something that someone might misinterpret as a breadcrumb, and if that was the only time you didn't random vote it would kind of stand out as unusual, which you don't want. So all in all I try to random vote about half the time, I guess.

[Macavenger]

Meh. Different reasons. In this case, it didn't seem like another random vote would be helpful. Sometimes I like to random vote on my second post instead of my first, get better reations that way. And sometimes you might not want to random vote at all, like if you don't want to leave something that someone might misinterpret as a breadcrumb, and if that was the only time you didn't random vote it would kind of stand out as unusual, which you don't want. So all in all I try to random vote about half the time, I guess.

Interesting, I might have to keep that in mind for future games. Hadn't really thought about it much yet.

Does anyone else find that "fair and balanced" vote count up there a little suspicious? No one coming up with 2 votes out of 10 cast strikes me as odd. We've either got some crazy luck here, or a couple people placing their votes carefully so as not to attract attention.

[SensFan]

Does anyone else find that "fair and balanced" vote count up there a little suspicious? No one coming up with 2 votes out of 10 cast strikes me as odd. We've either got some crazy luck here, or a couple people placing their votes carefully so as not to attract attention.

Let's fix that, ok?

Vote: Macavenger

[Guardian]

unvote: EvilGorilaz vote: JamesThePhox

[SensFan]

Unvote: Vote: JamesThePhox

[JamesThePhox]

Although that was a little unexpected, it had to be done.

So Guardian and SensFan, what are your reasons for voting for me? Random like VH or for different reasons?

Does anyone else find that "fair and balanced" vote count up there a little suspicious? No one coming up with 2 votes out of 10 cast strikes me as odd. We've either got some crazy luck here, or a couple people placing their votes carefully so as not to attract attention.

I think that's a fair assumption. Not that bandwagoning is a major accusation these days. It seems to me that as long as the votes are spread out evenly, then the reasons for voting don't have to be held by strong opinion. It allows for wishy washy votes.

[Macavenger]

I think that's a fair assumption. Not that bandwagoning is a major accusation these days.

Correct, putting 2 or 3 votes on someone during the random phase in a game this size is usually pretty meaningless. The fact that it didn't happen by the time 10 votes had been cast makes me think at least a couple people near the end of the voting didn't want to deal with even the light question you just gave to Sensfan and Guardian. Being that afraid of questioning this early in the game seems a little odd.

[SensFan]

So Guardian and SensFan, what are your reasons for voting for me? Random like VH or for different reasons?

I voted you because you had 2 votes already.

[Joudas]

Wow, this game really took off today. Awesome to see.

Correct, putting 2 or 3 votes on someone during the random phase in a game this size is usually pretty meaningless. The fact that it didn't happen by the time 10 votes had been cast makes me think at least a couple people near the end of the voting didn't want to deal with even the light question you just gave to Sensfan and Guardian. Being that afraid of questioning this early in the game seems a little odd.

Personally I see it as more likely that people just didn't see a reason to multivote one person during the jokevote stage, but who knows. *shrug*

[Yosarian2]

So Guardian and SensFan, what are your reasons for voting for me? Random like VH or for different reasons?

I voted you because you had 2 votes already.

Ok. Could you explain why that's a good idea?

[Guardian]

I don't wish to answer at this time. My choice was not random, however.

It requires 4 more votes to lynch Fox. Use your votes wisely .

[Joudas]

It requires 4 more votes to lynch Fox. Use your votes wisely Wink.

Surely you aren't suggesting it would be a good idea to lynch

anyone

on page 2?

[Macavenger]

I don't wish to answer at this time. My choice was not random, however.

It requires 4 more votes to lynch Fox. Use your votes wisely .

I'm starting to think I rather like my vote right where it is.

[PyroDwarf]

uhmm, okay. Sensfan, what does this mean?

I voted you because you had 2 votes already.

Why did you move your vote so quickly? It doen't make sence to me. why not just leave it on macavenger? Guardian, why the mystery?

[VampanezeHunter]

I'm quite used to newbie games so

Unvote:Jamesthephox

@James: Oh that would explain it.

Also same question as everyone else. Why feel that because someone has 2 votes you need to have 3? Could it be scum following the more experienced member? Is this idea farfetched? Should I stop asking questions? lol?
I know it takes many votes but this could be a subtle scumtell. Scum getting on a Wagon ASAP to avoid suspicion.

Sory if I seem childish with anything. I''m not that old anyway. Lol.

[Singing Librarian]

Agreed with Yos2, Joudas, MacAvenger and PyroDwarf above. Lynching anyone quite so quickly can only harm our chances, as we'd have so much less information going forward. I personally need more than a vague intimation that it's a good idea to follow along quite so early in the game.

[Dasquian]

My experience is that anyone dropping third votes this soon isn't doing it to lynch, they're doing it to get discussion going and so is probably a pro-town tell. Conversely, I'll buy into the theory that people near the end of the voting order were doing less-than-random-random-votes to avoid standing out, which is a very mild scum-tell.

Mild or not, it's a good place to start:

unvote Near, vote VampanezeHunter

. Particularly since the above nearly completely contradicts his last post