Newbie 612: Cancelled due to mod error

[Brandi]

Unvote, Vote: TartarianCerberus

for screwing up his hot link, its 612 not 621

Hehe, I noticed that too, I just didn't mention it... ^^;

[Dean Harper]

and pmchugh did post. he voted me

[Dean Harper]

oh, and im one of ur ICs

[Brandi]

I know who you are Dean =o He he, I happen to know that YOU'RE THE REASON WE HAD TO GET NEW ROLES D:

...But thats alright. It wasn't your fault ^^

[Dean Harper]

srry Brandi. Yeah, i was the reason. My alt was accidentally put into the same game as my main account.

[JamesThePhox]

Oh wow, Dean Harper plays multiple games on multiple accounts? Hardcore.

And it seems like the random voting here is quite advanced. I can't see how I can keep up with this new wave of random voting.

[Brandi]

Oh wow, Dean Harper plays multiple games on multiple accounts? Hardcore.

I think he does it so people can't get a meta on him? Or maybe he thinks that Mafia needs more Kirby.

[pmchugh]

Vote: pmchuck

for not posting yet.

No wonder he hasnt posted pmchuck isnt in the game.

Original Roll String: 1d6

1 6-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[/dice]

[pmchugh]

EBWOP Just wanted to test the dice out it had no meaning.

[strappado]

Original Roll String: 1d9

1 9-Sided Dice: (6) = 6

[strappado]

Thanks James! dice say

vote: Dean

[strappado]

Oops, actually they say vote babygirl, I thought I'd rolled a 5. Nevermind, now I look like a tard.

unvote

[J-man]

indeed

[pmchugh]

I think this random dice thing is more scummy than just normal random voting. Its like you are trying to avoid connecting yourself with anyone and stop yourselves making slip ups. It also makes you look like you are trying to point out that your vote was properly random. Only scum are frightnened in these ways.

FOS anyone who used dice to vote.

unvote vote strappado

, for trying to vote this way and failing

[Norinel]

Vote Count:

J-Man: 2 (JamesThePhox, babygirl86)
pmchugh: 2 (Dean Harper, TartarianCerberus)
strappado: 2 (Brandi, pmchugh)
babygirl86: 1 (W!nt3r)
TartarianCerberus: 1 (J-man)

Not voting (1): strappado

5 to lynch

[strappado]

I think this random dice thing is more scummy than just normal random voting. Its like you are trying to avoid connecting yourself with anyone and stop yourselves making slip ups. It also makes you look like you are trying to point out that your vote was properly random. Only scum are frightnened in these ways.

FOS anyone who used dice to vote.

unvote vote strappado

, for trying to vote this way and failing

I've read through a few games and saw people using the dice and I thought it was a nifty tool, but after your post I decided to look it up in mafiawiki

Since its introduction, one use of the tag has been to choose a target for a random vote at the beginning of a game. Recently, it has become objectionable to some Scummers to do this, because it destroys any purpose or analysis on the "random" vote by assuring that it is 100% meaningless.

Well, I'll be. Nevermind then, I wont use it.
I'll random

vote: Brandi

for changing her random vote to a "love vote" and solemnly swear to never again use the "dice" feature when random voting.

[Brandi]

I think this random dice thing is more scummy than just normal random voting. Its like you are trying to avoid connecting yourself with anyone and stop yourselves making slip ups. It also makes you look like you are trying to point out that your vote was properly random. Only scum are frightnened in these ways.

FOS anyone who used dice to vote.

unvote vote strappado

, for trying to vote this way and failing

I disagree. Especially with your insinuation that 'only scum' would do such a thing seeing as how JamesThePhox, babygirl86

and

Strappado all used the dice. In this game set up there are only 2 scum, yet the total people using the dice is 3. I

do

agree that the usage of the dice is rather pointless, seeing as how it takes all the fun away from the random voting stage. I think its better when everyone has a reason, despite how inane or ridiculous, because that makes random voting a bit more interesting than just "Oh the dice said this."

Regardless of that, I think that your reasonings for it being scummy are not very solid at all and the fact that you would point that out is slightly suspicious in my opinion. Anyone could decide to use a dice and not just because they are 'frightened scum.' Their reasonings could be as arbitrary as the dice themselves.

Therefore,

FOS: pmchugh

Well, I'll be. Nevermind then, I wont use it.
I'll random

vote: Brandi

for changing her random vote to a "love vote" and solemnly swear to never again use the "dice" feature when random voting.

OMGUS!

[strappado]

yes, it was an OMGUS...because badgers are not adorable goshdarnit! They are ferocious, unrelenting and fearsome...I will not have my avatar reduced to a cuddly play-toy.

[strappado]

Also, I think Brandi and pmchugh are both correct. Certainly not all of the people that used the random dice thing are scum. I just wanted to try it because I saw the big kids (IC's) in other games doing it and thought it was cool, and James just did it to show me how, and babygirl probably just did it to give it a testdrive. I dont think there's any scumminess to be gathered from it in

this

game, but after hearing pmchugh's argument and reading MafiaWiki, I can see how the dice roll reduces the amount of info that can be gathered from day1 so semi-random votes are probably more beneficial to the town than actual random votes.

[JamesThePhox]

This dice rolling controversy is a bit interesting.

I think this random dice thing is more scummy than just normal random voting. Its like you are trying to avoid connecting yourself with anyone and stop yourselves making slip ups. It also makes you look like you are trying to point out that your vote was properly random. Only scum are frightnened in these ways.

FOS anyone who used dice to vote.

unvote vote strappado

, for trying to vote this way and failing

Still in random voting phase, but this brings up a good point. Dice rolling takes away all the subtle reasoning behind the choices that a scum may make. But I also think dice rolling is also a way for any player to prevent early game metas. So it may be a personal habit rather than a role-based habit.

But always remember that at the start of any mafia F-11 game, there are always 2 people that know a bit more information than anyone else and try as they might, those 2 people will make inherent decisions based on that information. The job of the town is to pick out the ones basing their decisions on a bit more than just the information present in the posts.

[TartarianCerberus]

[q]Vote: TartarianCerberus for screwing up his hot link, its 612 not 621[/q]

My bad, I'll fix it now

unvote: pmchuck

, like chugh says, he never existed anyways :p.

So, I'll

vote: strappado

for having first post and dice rolling.

[TartarianCerberus]

omg, the [q] doesn't work at mafiascum!

[Brandi]

omg, the [q] doesn't work at mafiascum!

its [ quote ] [ /quote ] (minus the spaces)

[Dean Harper]

Nah, i only have the other account bc i thought i could play another game as a "newbie" when in reality I wasnt. Also, I was told by Flay not to use it anymore.

[pmchugh]

I think this random dice thing is more scummy than just normal random voting. Its like you are trying to avoid connecting yourself with anyone and stop yourselves making slip ups. It also makes you look like you are trying to point out that your vote was properly random. Only scum are frightnened in these ways.

FOS anyone who used dice to vote.

unvote vote strappado

, for trying to vote this way and failing

I disagree. Especially with your insinuation that 'only scum' would do such a thing seeing as how JamesThePhox, babygirl86

and

Strappado all used the dice. In this game set up there are only 2 scum, yet the total people using the dice is 3. I

do

agree that the usage of the dice is rather pointless, seeing as how it takes all the fun away from the random voting stage. I think its better when everyone has a reason, despite how inane or ridiculous, because that makes random voting a bit more interesting than just "Oh the dice said this."

Regardless of that, I think that your reasonings for it being scummy are not very solid at all and the fact that you would point that out is slightly suspicious in my opinion. Anyone could decide to use a dice and not just because they are 'frightened scum.' Their reasonings could be as arbitrary as the dice themselves.

Therefore,

FOS: pmchugh

Well, I'll be. Nevermind then, I wont use it.
I'll random

vote: Brandi

for changing her random vote to a "love vote" and solemnly swear to never again use the "dice" feature when random voting.

OMGUS!

I didnt mean that everyone who uses it is scum, I merely meant that using it is helpful to scum and that if you wanted to avoid slipping up then doing this would be a good idea. And scum are much more likely to be afraid of slipping up, the only townies who are are newbies.