Open 77-Vengful Mafia (Over) before 611

[Korts]

I don't like how there's only the two of us discussing this. Musher, Surye, what's your opinion?

[Musher333]

I don't like how there's only the two of us discussing this. Musher, Surye, what's your opinion?

I agree with the fact that quicklynching (i would count first 5 or so pages as a quick lynch) is very bad as we don't have any info to go off and the decision was rash, however in the end korts if you didn't want him lynched you shouldn't have voted, as far as i can remember i was the first vote on him, this means you knew that if you put him to L-1 someone could hammer easily.

[Surye]

I'm here, had a really busy weeekend, and a really busy day ahead of me, I will be catching up between tonight and tomorrow in all my threads. Sorry about the lack activity. (Probably this game first since it's so short, stand by...)

[Surye]

Korts is right, and Mr. Blond is doing a poor point of proving himself. If we hit scum, we have NOTHING to go on for the next scum, if we hit town, we have NOTHING to go on for the first scum. Xtoxm has no information on who to vig. Except maybe you.

Either way your play was very poor. I think you just miscounted, so I don't think you're scum for it, but I don't like how you're trying to play your mistake at all.

[Korts]

Xtoxm has no information on who to vig. Except maybe you.

FoS Surye

for trying maybe to direct Xtoxm's vig. Otherwise I agree.

[Mr. Blonde]

Korts is right, and Mr. Blond is doing a poor point of proving himself. If we hit scum, we have NOTHING to go on for the next scum, if we hit town, we have NOTHING to go on for the first scum. Xtoxm has no information on who to vig. Except maybe you.

Either way your play was very poor. I think you just miscounted, so I don't think you're scum for it, but I don't like how you're trying to play your mistake at all.

Ok.

What do you think about kort's comment about "town will loath me for hammering" (which, to me, suggest that the guy knew Xtoxm is a townie)?

[Surye]

Xtoxm has no information on who to vig. Except maybe you.

FoS Surye

for trying maybe to direct Xtoxm's vig. Otherwise I agree.

I just said that the only information in the game is a mindless hammer. And I stated later I didn't think he was scum for it. I was mostly warning Mr. Blond that his behavior is not just dangerous for the town but him too.

[Surye]

Korts is right, and Mr. Blond is doing a poor point of proving himself. If we hit scum, we have NOTHING to go on for the next scum, if we hit town, we have NOTHING to go on for the first scum. Xtoxm has no information on who to vig. Except maybe you.

Either way your play was very poor. I think you just miscounted, so I don't think you're scum for it, but I don't like how you're trying to play your mistake at all.

Ok.

What do you think about kort's comment about "town will loath me for hammering" (which, to me, suggest that the guy knew Xtoxm is a townie)?

If you read my comment, you'd see why it doesn't matter what Xtoxm's faction is, you've screwed us out of information, and we loath you for that. I don't see korts as saying "you hammered a town".

[Mr. Blonde]

So, you also think that if I had quicklynched a scum - town would loath me for that?

Ok. Just want to make sure.

[Surye]

So, you also think that if I had quicklynched a scum - town would loath me for that?

Ok. Just want to make sure.

Glad we're all on the same page.

Perhaps you should take a moment and consider Mafia theory in such a small, specialized game. Look at numbers. You based your quicklynch on nothing, you don't get credit for scum hunting. You just risked a townie, and another townie if the revenge goes bad. That is a game loser. This game is designed to ALWAYS be at LYLO. And you were careless and we should all loathe you for that.

[Surye]

FYI, I've noticed a fear of admitting a mistake to be a pretty good scumtell. You're actions were not scummy imo, but your reaction is.

[Mr. Blonde]

Okay. Just wanted to make sure.

[Korts]

I don't like how there's only the two of us discussing this. Musher, Surye, what's your opinion?

I agree with the fact that quicklynching (i would count first 5 or so pages as a quick lynch) is very bad as we don't have any info to go off and the decision was rash, however in the end korts if you didn't want him lynched you shouldn't have voted, as far as i can remember i was the first vote on him, this means you knew that if you put him to L-1 someone could hammer easily.

*scumsenses tingling*

I sense a Mr. Blonde-Musher scumduo. Trying to save his ass by pointing to the other(s) on the wagon?

[Mr. Blonde]

Korts... hmm, that's actually quite good note.

Perhaps you should take a moment and consider Mafia theory in such a small, specialized game. Look at numbers. You based your quicklynch on nothing, you don't get credit for scum hunting. You just risked a townie, and another townie if the revenge goes bad. That is a game loser. This game is designed to ALWAYS be at LYLO. And you were careless and we should all loathe you for that.

Okay, Surye - I get the picture now.

I haven't played Vengeful Kill's earlier, so I thought that no matter how you put it, it's still gambling right from the beginning. Now I see that you have a point there, and now I get why Korts was shouting "IDIOT" at me

Darn. I was so sure that Korts was one of the scums when he was saying about "loathing of the town"... and now I'm not sure anymore.

I suppose you can kill me now, slap me and let's start another game. I promise not to mess it up

[Musher333]

I don't like how there's only the two of us discussing this. Musher, Surye, what's your opinion?

I agree with the fact that quicklynching (i would count first 5 or so pages as a quick lynch) is very bad as we don't have any info to go off and the decision was rash, however in the end korts if you didn't want him lynched you shouldn't have voted, as far as i can remember i was the first vote on him, this means you knew that if you put him to L-1 someone could hammer easily.

*scumsenses tingling*

I sense a Mr. Blonde-Musher scumduo. Trying to save his ass by pointing to the other(s) on the wagon?

No... i am just pointing out (albeit i did it badly) that all three of us in the wagon can be blamed equally, i mean sure i never expected anyone to speedlynch but my point is that when you put someone at L-1 you risk someone hammering, same as when i put them at L-2 i ran the risk of the 2 scum speedlynching, if they did however it would look obvious.

[Korts]

I don't like how there's only the two of us discussing this. Musher, Surye, what's your opinion?

I agree with the fact that quicklynching (i would count first 5 or so pages as a quick lynch) is very bad as we don't have any info to go off and the decision was rash, however in the end korts if you didn't want him lynched you shouldn't have voted, as far as i can remember i was the first vote on him, this means you knew that if you put him to L-1 someone could hammer easily.

*scumsenses tingling*

I sense a Mr. Blonde-Musher scumduo. Trying to save his ass by pointing to the other(s) on the wagon?

No... i am just pointing out (albeit i did it badly) that all three of us in the wagon can be blamed equally, i mean sure i never expected anyone to speedlynch but my point is that when you put someone at L-1 you risk someone hammering, same as when i put them at L-2 i ran the risk of the 2 scum speedlynching, if they did however it would look obvious.

See, I was getting the idea that you we're trying to blame the whole lynch on me by saying if I didn't want this lynch, I shouldn't have voted. And now you seem to be implying that I'm Blonde's partner. I'm guessing you're doing this in case Blonde is vigged and turns scum.

[Korts]

quote-pyramids ftw

[Korts]

Korts... hmm, that's actually quite good note.

Blonde's response to my pairing seemed a null tell at first sight, but on second thought it implicates him a bit more. As town, he would/should be outraged at the mere accusation, at least in this setup where we can't afford a mislynch. But because he's scum, all he sees in this situation is an opportunity to buddy up.

[Mr. Blonde]

O_o

[Surye]

Are we waiting on Xtoxm?

[Korts]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Xtoxm]

Hey, i'm back!

Well, what i'm thinking atm is I have to vig Mr. B. It is only in scum's advantage to have a hammer so early, and a 1 for 1 trade off is advantageous to scum. So I was interested to see if anyone would go for this. Mr. B is someone i'd except to have figured this out/have read the wiki and found out. So, I think it's likely he's scum. You guys happy for me to do that?

Also don't like how quiet Musher has been. Played with him once and he flipped townie, he wasn't particularly outspoken but he deft wasn't quiet.

[Musher333]

Also don't like how quiet Musher has been. Played with him once and he flipped townie, he wasn't particularly outspoken but he deft wasn't quiet.

If you check im pretty sure ive posted about the same amount in the same amount of time as i did in that game.

[Xtoxm]

Ok.

I think I should just do it.

Vig Mr. B

.

[Prof. Guppy]

Done. Mr Blonde was the

Godfather

.

It is now day 2. 3 alive, two to lynch.