or, get this, maybe both town *and* scum would be confused by the fact you wanted to be eliminated after claiming lover, and when your lover hadn’t posted very much at all? like, i don’t get your logic here at all.In post 214, RationalMadman wrote:If you flip it around, yes.In post 199, Kerset wrote:Did you just judge my synergy with Ana, before my appearance?In post 196, RationalMadman wrote:Anastasia and Kerset
Both have displayed signs of having independent agendas without seeking approval and synergy with the partner within the pairings (lacking live day-chat and wanting badly to scumhunt from the get-go results in this) as well as dedication to voting off a scumread that entails willingness to be voted off first or afterwards.
Ana would wait to make such aove and definitely before keeping it going if you were scum together, that's why I townread you two very hard, she kept wanting to vote me through to elimination no matter what I did and only rethought things ironically after I said vote me off and then vote Vex off but that is actually a Towntell to unvote there because Scum is likely to keep tunneling me or after unvoting would turn on the other pair, she just unvoted and stopped posting, indicating genuine authentic confusion and hesitation.
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im also currently at work still, so that’s why im posting sporadically anf out of order"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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?In post 224, Vex Vience wrote:also what the fuck is this post? maybe kerset hadn’t checked the thread yet? you’re assuming these things are townie when there’s another explanation to them that makes more sense
RM is assuming that kerset hadn't checked the thread and is saying that Ana being willing to engage as heavily as she did without Kerset's support is a towntell. I disagree, since ime very few people actually coordinate in scum PTs instead of playing an individual game, but you're clearly missing the thrust of his argument."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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What part?In post 223, Klick wrote:The rest of their story feels sus to me still"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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I wasn't asking this to hear myself think, I'd actually like answers.In post 188, Bingle wrote:So... I think it's fairly obvious that LF thinks he found a setup exploit. Regardless of whether he did or not, do you think he shares the setup exploit as scum?"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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maybe i am, but the argument doesn’t make very much sense to me anyways.In post 227, Bingle wrote:
?In post 224, Vex Vience wrote:also what the fuck is this post? maybe kerset hadn’t checked the thread yet? you’re assuming these things are townie when there’s another explanation to them that makes more sense
RM is assuming that kerset hadn't checked the thread and is saying that Ana being willing to engage as heavily as she did without Kerset's support is a towntell. I disagree, since ime very few people actually coordinate in scum PTs instead of playing an individual game, but you're clearly missing the thrust of his argument.
while i’m here, sell to me the fact your lover is town. i’m making a scum case for them, so i wanna see your side of it"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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imo yes, because if he says he found it and doesn’t share, we wagon them so they have to share it, and even then, the wagon would probably go through anyways depending on how many people, not to mention they’re singleIn post 229, Bingle wrote:
I wasn't asking this to hear myself think, I'd actually like answers.In post 188, Bingle wrote:So... I think it's fairly obvious that LF thinks he found a setup exploit. Regardless of whether he did or not, do you think he shares the setup exploit as scum?
also because if you’re scum and you share that, odds are you get hard-cleared and deepwolf to melo and win from there"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Nothing he's done has actually had a scum motivation? He's barking at squirrels, but it's pretty easy to see that he thinks the squirrels are scum indicative.In post 230, Vex Vience wrote:while i’m here, sell to me the fact your lover is town. i’m making a scum case for them, so i wanna see your side of it
Read his ISO and tell me that any of what he's said comes from someone who doesn't 100% believe himself to be right, regardless of whether he is or is not right."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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In post 61, LlamaFluff wrote:Just to center the game for me tomorrow morning when I am reading over morning tea (or energy drink depending on how much sleep I get) before remoting in to work
Lovers:
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Ana-Kers
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Every lover pair needs to summarize their pre-game topic immediately in as much detail as possible that still avoids modkill. To the extent where if you dont you die because of something that im really hoping scum is just realizing.
Liar we're lovers.In post 90, LlamaFluff wrote:You all are making me hate this game by the end of the fourth page...
@Tbone - You scum or can we do list mod powers unite and figure this one out?
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Why out that he's found a setup exploit at all? Do you think LF thinks someone else is likely to have picked up on the fact the scum sample roles only have one PT link?In post 231, Vex Vience wrote:
imo yes, because if he says he found it and doesn’t share, we wagon them so they have to share it, and even then, the wagon would probably go through anyways depending on how many people, not to mention they’re singleIn post 229, Bingle wrote:
I wasn't asking this to hear myself think, I'd actually like answers.In post 188, Bingle wrote:So... I think it's fairly obvious that LF thinks he found a setup exploit. Regardless of whether he did or not, do you think he shares the setup exploit as scum?
also because if you’re scum and you share that, odds are you get hard-cleared and deepwolf to melo and win from there"He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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Anyway I lock town read VV and Bambi. I think the solve is probably Ana/Kerset and then one of Klick/Llama based on 10 pages.
The reason I scumread Ana/Kerset is for this nonsense right here lol
lol this is what, 15 hours into the game? Please.In post 201, Kerset wrote:In post 13, T-Bone wrote:Okay doubling down is kinda weird.In post 15, T-Bone wrote:Oh no, claiming is fine. It's the framing it as this great game-solving move that is super weird.
Double down was the wrong term. Overselling is what I was going for.
Wtf is this appearance? No vote, nothing to work with. Just some mechtalk and disappearance.In post 18, T-Bone wrote:I feel you. I get it, easy instinct to have.
VOTE: T-Bone
VV and Bambi are both pretty obvous town in their posting at this point. RM is being anti-town overall, but I get the feeling based on Bingle's description of their private interaction, RM thinks way too highly of himself as a player, and that's why he's posting the way he's posting. It definitely rubs people the wrong way. But kudos to Bingle and RM if they planned this dissonance, it has me fooled atm.-
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so you think his “elim me then ana” thing before you had a chance to post and his 180 from me being town to suddenly me being scum comes from town?In post 232, Bingle wrote:
Nothing he's done has actually had a scum motivation? He's barking at squirrels, but it's pretty easy to see that he thinks the squirrels are scum indicative.In post 230, Vex Vience wrote:while i’m here, sell to me the fact your lover is town. i’m making a scum case for them, so i wanna see your side of it
Read his ISO and tell me that any of what he's said comes from someone who doesn't 100% believe himself to be right, regardless of whether he is or is not right."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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give me a few to dry myself off and get onto my laptop and i’ll pull up specific quotes i think aren’t townie"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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FWIW, I knew the dissonance would happen pregame. We wouldn't have had to plan it. It's just a personality thing.In post 235, T-Bone wrote:But kudos to Bingle and RM if they planned this dissonance, it has me fooled atm."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
"it's truest in mechanical games (if he gets a gritty setup and is town in it and needs to save the day, he starts levitating and his eyes start glowing. not exaggerating, it literally happens)." ~Ducky-
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hang on, really quickly, as i'm looking through rm's post: "we don't talk past d1s start"In post 101, RationalMadman wrote:I informed Binglethat we don't talk past D1'sstart as Bingle asked it in the PT and I'd already asked, it was a passing comment among the bigger discussion
that strikes me as really weird? like, i'd expect it to be phrased as "we can't talk past d1's start" not "we don't talk past d1s start"?
i want everyone's opinion on this as well"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Spoiler: lots of quotes
all of these posts i struggle to see how town gets to this conclusion. like, i'm not following this entire thought process of "vex is town, ana is scum" to "i don't like bambi, but i still like vex" to a sudden "ok elim me then" after their scumread pushes them with zero chance of actually being elim'd in that moment to all of the sudden "ok i was wrong after some posts completely irrelevant to who the scum lover is—vex is now scum and ana has to be town""I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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like, i don't actually see how town can get to that conclusion *this* early in the game"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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Yea, you struggle as scum and got no idea what to do.In post 235, T-Bone wrote:lol this is what, 15 hours into the game? Pleasegiv me pagetop :(-
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friendo I'm a top kek scum player plzIn post 243, Kerset wrote:
Yea, you struggle as scum and got no idea what to do.In post 235, T-Bone wrote:lol this is what, 15 hours into the game? Please-
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In post 239, Vex Vience wrote:
hang on, really quickly, as i'm looking through rm's post: "we don't talk past d1s start"In post 101, RationalMadman wrote:I informed Binglethat we don't talk past D1'sstart as Bingle asked it in the PT and I'd already asked, it was a passing comment among the bigger discussion
that strikes me as really weird? like, i'd expect it to be phrased as "we can't talk past d1's start" not "we don't talk past d1s start"?
i want everyone's opinion on this as wellIn post 152, RationalMadman wrote: I have excellent grammar in real life. I rush to type on a smartphone at times here, I also like it as it forces people to read what I'm saying a little harder while deciphering it.giv me pagetop :(-
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1) like you said, llama thinks they found one. why lie about it if you're town or scum? i already said why scum and town would do it.In post 234, Bingle wrote:
Why out that he's found a setup exploit at all? Do you think LF thinks someone else is likely to have picked up on the fact the scum sample roles only have one PT link?In post 231, Vex Vience wrote:
imo yes, because if he says he found it and doesn’t share, we wagon them so they have to share it, and even then, the wagon would probably go through anyways depending on how many people, not to mention they’re singleIn post 229, Bingle wrote:
I wasn't asking this to hear myself think, I'd actually like answers.In post 188, Bingle wrote:So... I think it's fairly obvious that LF thinks he found a setup exploit. Regardless of whether he did or not, do you think he shares the setup exploit as scum?
also because if you’re scum and you share that, odds are you get hard-cleared and deepwolf to melo and win from there
2) if anyone, it would've been me who would've. i didn't care that much about reading the scum pms because i was more concerned with figuring out mech play before the game started, plus i had work so i wasn't able to really sit down and read the game"I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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grammar doesnt matter in this context kerset. it's the phrasing that matters.In post 246, Kerset wrote:In post 239, Vex Vience wrote:
hang on, really quickly, as i'm looking through rm's post: "we don't talk past d1s start"In post 101, RationalMadman wrote:I informed Binglethat we don't talk past D1'sstart as Bingle asked it in the PT and I'd already asked, it was a passing comment among the bigger discussion
that strikes me as really weird? like, i'd expect it to be phrased as "we can't talk past d1's start" not "we don't talk past d1s start"?
i want everyone's opinion on this as wellIn post 152, RationalMadman wrote: I have excellent grammar in real life. I rush to type on a smartphone at times here, I also like it as it forces people to read what I'm saying a little harder while deciphering it."I preach darkness. I don't inspire hope—only shadows. It's up to you to find the light in my words." ~ Charles Lee| Plurality Discussion Thread
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I mean... I know it comes from town. I'm an informed party.In post 236, Vex Vience wrote:so you think his “elim me then ana” thing before you had a chance to post and his 180 from me being town to suddenly me being scum comes from town?
I think it's ridiculous, but that doesn't make it any less true.
The question is, does that progression come from scum any more often than it comes from town? To which I think the answer is pretty obvious. If someone is aggressive enough to have the thought as scum they're equally likely to have the thought as town."He brings the cool and the muscle" -FakeGod
"I was playing against the timer known as bingle tbh." ~Chennisden
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