Hadhfang 2 (ShadowGirl, Walnut)
charter 3 (Lord Gurgi, Netlava, Macavenger)
Lord Gurgi 1 (farside22)
Walnut 1 (Hadhfang)
farside22 1 (Battousai)
Blackberry 1 (charter)
12 alive = 7 to lynch!
I took more note of you saying that you were feeling lazy and considering being replaced. If that is the case, it is better for you to be replaced than the town to be forced to lynch you. Your comment about your role reminded me painfully of Acidmix.C: I'm surprised I haven't gotten more votes on me. I was expecting me to claim that I have a kickass role to give me votes and only one person (charter) has voted me. The question is: is charter's behavior PRO-TOWN or ANTI-TOWN for voting someone that claims to have a kickass role. I don't know yet.
Blackberry wrote:Mizzy -- can I ask that we know the set-up of last game? I think it is only fair that we all have the same exact information to speculate on. If speculating were to be done. Because if we do not have the same information it will give others particular advantages over the game knowing what role was in the last set-up (as I under the assumption you changed it up a bit). I think it would only be fair though for all of us to have the same information as to what the roles were for the previous set-up.
Care to elaborate on this?Blackberry wrote:I think it's Tinsley + Had
The fact that you already have two targets in mind before reading the game seems scummy.Blackberry wrote:I don't buy Had's claim at all. It's exactly what scum would claim. I don't know about my read of Tinsley + Had, I could be completely wrong, as I haven't actually read this game yet, lol.
QFTTinsley wrote:The fact that you already have two targets in mind before reading the game seems scummy.Blackberry wrote:I don't buy Had's claim at all. It's exactly what scum would claim. I don't know about my read of Tinsley + Had, I could be completely wrong, as I haven't actually read this game yet, lol.
Yet then he decides to run with it and unvote me, but still wants me lynched the next day, even though he claims he isn' pushing for a lynch that eagerly.Convenient claim to make on D1 when you're at L-3....
Don't lynch him today and if he lives through the night lynch him tomorrow. Of course the mafia could always not NK him, but I see that as much more unlikely than him actually being mafia (if he lives). Saying this, there's no point in lynching him today, as there are probably two others, so I'll go ahead and
unvote had
Everything he says here is provocative, and I can't see how any of it is positive for the town, although some people seem to like the hint about the role. As my number 1 suspect is off today's menu, I would be ok with voting Blackberry if he doesn't get replaced first.Walnut wrote:Actually, if you are looking at a clearer example of distraction with no logical townie explanation for it, try:@Battousai, I see what you are saying about who called you out for lurking, but I don't agree with the conclusion. Yes, if Had looks likely to be lynched early on Day 1 his scum partners could try to distract attention to lurkers to get the heat off him. Equally well townies could say "Hey, let's not lynch this guy yet until we hear a bit more from some of those who have not said much". For me, they are both valid responses, so it is kind of WIFOM.
Blackberry wrote:I might have to be replaced, as I am getting lazy in not only this, but all my games. I will stay in this game however only because I have a super-kick-ass role. I probably shouldn't mention that but I feel like bragging. I wonder what discussion this will bring up by me claiming I have a super-kick-ass role... lol.
We'll have to evaluate the result claim on its merits, as well as the rest of had's play, tomorrow. No other sensible way to do it really, and no reason to worry about that today.CF Riot wrote:My only problem with this is if Had claims a result tomorrow what do we compare it against? If it's all going to be WIFOM city, how do we deal with it?
So, if you haven't read, what makes you think it's Tinsley and had? If your soft claim was trying to get votes, why don't you evaluate charter's a bit, rather than just telling us you aren't sure about it?Blackberry wrote:B: I don't buy Had's claim at all. It's exactly what scum would claim. I don't know about my read of Tinsley + Had, I could be completely wrong, as I haven't actually read this game yet, lol.
C: I'm surprised I haven't gotten more votes on me. I was expecting me to claim that I have a kickass role to give me votes and only one person (charter) has voted me. The question is: is charter's behavior PRO-TOWN or ANTI-TOWN for voting someone that claims to have a kickass role. I don't know yet.
How about we lynch you instead? Unknown sanity doesn't mean much. In a mini normal, there's still a really good chance he's sane. Cop sanities are rarely mod confirmed.Netlava wrote:I think had is scum, judging by the way he claimed. Maybe we should lynch him today anyway. Besides, the worst case scenario is losing an unknown sanity cop, which isn't that bad, is it?
Number one suspect being hadhfang, I presume? Why are two claimed (semi-claimed, in one case) power roles your top two suspects? You haven't really said much of anything about either of them, or anyone else, just a dose of WIFOM about the claims. Contribute some useful analysis, please.Walnut wrote:Everything he says here is provocative, and I can't see how any of it is positive for the town, although some people seem to like the hint about the role. As my number 1 suspect is off today's menu, I would be ok with voting Blackberry if he doesn't get replaced first.
Tinsley wrote:Noob Question: When the cop is lynched/NK'd will his/her sanity status be revealed?
Hadfhang claimed when he was at L-3 (wlthough he possibly thought he was at L-2). He also made a specific claim that (without wanting to go into too much detail) can be evaluated. Blackberry's claim was out of the blue (at L-7), and was sufficiently unspecific to be not even necessarily pro-town. Admittedly, if it is an overnight action it may be visible, but otherwise unless he clarifies his claim we gain nothing from it.CFRiot wrote: Why on earth would we lynch Black Berry? I realize that was definitely not a wise thing to do and it kind of screws us over a bit if he's telling the truth since he's attracting attention to himself. But are we not waiting on Had because he's claimed? Why then would you make your second vote someone else who's claimed?
Huh? If he is town, he can equally well confuse town players. What makes you think that town will not be confused by what he said? Did you not see his sudden burst of drama as detrimental to the town?Lord Gurgi wrote:I'm against a BB lynch today, because if he's town he's just confusing scum, if he's scum, then he's not confusing anyone. That said, we have people that are being detrimental to the town. I still support a charter lynch, because of previously stated reasons.
Had was my top suspect for reasons stated before. As I noted too, I agree that he should not be lynched today. In my response to CFRiot (this post, above) I explained how I saw the two claims as significantly different to one another. I would add to that Blackberry's burst of action deliberately to draw votes when some pressure was building, the voting without reading, and the more recent distraction of asking the mod about roles from the last game. Why? Because Netlava says that he has a guess about the role, and Blackberry doesn't seem to like that. I guess the "I am only playing because I get to be special- No! You can't know what it is! It iisn't fair!" thing rubs me the wrong way.Macavenger wrote:Why are two claimed (semi-claimed, in one case) power roles your top two suspects?
Seems overly dramatic. I don't agree with a BB lynch either, but your post makes it seem as if BB is unlynchable.CF Riot wrote:Ok this is ridiculous. Why on earth would we lynch Black Berry?
No strong reason to doubt it, currently. I see no compelling reason to risk lynching a cop day 1; even if he were scum he still has buddies we can go after.Netlava wrote:You seem to be quite eager to believe his role claim.
I saw it as a doc breadcrumb, with apple being the trigger word, except for the fact that it makes no sense for a doc to breadcrumb whatsoever. From my (limited) experience as mafia, I have been tempted to drop fake breadcrumbs, before realizing that doc breadcrumbs make no sense.CF Riot wrote:I'd also like to add that I'm eating the most delicious apple right now. So good.
Hahaha. Okay I actually laughed when I read this. Not because it's a dumb guess to make or anything, I can sort of see you just being really observant and trying to take everything under the microscope. But no, I really was eating an apple IRL when I posted that. Sorry, I never guessed it could be confused as game related, I'll try not to post anymore irrelevant information during this game.Netlava wrote:CF Riot's post 71: I saw it as a doc breadcrumb, with apple being the trigger word.