MT 2219: The Battle of Calculasia - Endgame

[Titus]

MURDERCAT town, Xlos scum.

VOTE: Xlos

Will sheep for now.

[Titus]

By the way, anyone who claims a type of Modified Rolecop is confirmed town. This information I have from somewhere that I will not elaborate on furter.

VOTE: titus
Serious vote. This seems like an overreaction to a naked vote.

VOTE: T3

I like Galron as town.

Asking why someone voted when they OMGUSed is perfectly reasonable.

[MURDERCAT]

Goofball, nom, T3, and Toog all feel townie to me at the moment

Slight pings from Titus, xlos, and slimer

[Titus]

@T3, I am a modified rolecop too. That means if the mod modifies my role pm, I am a rolecop.

[Jake The Wolfie]

MurderCat, do you know me Mafia-wise?

We were in TM together, right?

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

I don't believe so, TM is all I remember

[Xlos]

also dgb's point is not good, scums are given fakeclaims and there's a sample town rolecard as well in the OP so this is not a good push
I'm more interested about how the game started with these weird flavor posts though, this is a weird rvs

Town read, I don't think mafia would point this out since it completely undermines Goofball's reasoning against me. And we're still in rvs cause math is kind of entertaining to talk about

@DGB: AGAIN, how I interpreted his post was "I

presume

the mod decided to do so and so, although it is not explicitly mentioned in the PM". I thought that might be some kind of role fishing, so I ignored it. He didn't say that

it is

mentioned in the Role PM though, as then he wouldn't have needed to explain it in details the way he did.

My guess is the scum team got one role from each of the "presumed" categories, and Xlos thus assumed one PR and one VT from each (or something like that) so it still would have benefited Scum to know that kind of info to plan their pushes and NKs.

Right, it's not in the role PM, but my role is a technique in analysis, so I assume that all roles are techniques in analysis, algebra or geometry. From this, you can deduce your role location. I was actually thinking that the scum team would have random 'guessing' techniques that weren't from these categories, like using OEIS (https://oeis.org/A002219) to figure out what a sequence is given the first few terms. Anyways, in the case you mentioned, it definitely benefits town more than mafia to know about all roles: it gives a really strong deductive power - if one scum is annihilated, then we immediately get a bunch of confirmed town, and scum are basically done for immediately. So if it is true, then town definitely benefits from everyone making this claim. If it's false, we still benefit since we get some information based on where people decide to claim that we can use later. The only case that this is bad for us is if it's false AND there is some role that depends on where you are from. But this seems extremely unlikely - it means that Ircher thought about the locations, made roles and flavor about them, and then made the flavor wrong. So before you guys decide if you want to annihilate me, you should convince yourself that the idea I proposed is actually bad for town. Cause I can't see it.

[Almost50]

OK, I'll play: Calculus

[Almost50]

@Xlos: Now please keep me updated as to what you get/deduce from this.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Spoiler:

also dgb's point is not good, scums are given fakeclaims and there's a sample town rolecard as well in the OP so this is not a good push
I'm more interested about how the game started with these weird flavor posts though, this is a weird rvs

Town read, I don't think mafia would point this out since it completely undermines Goofball's reasoning against me. And we're still in rvs cause math is kind of entertaining to talk about

@DGB: AGAIN, how I interpreted his post was "I

presume

the mod decided to do so and so, although it is not explicitly mentioned in the PM". I thought that might be some kind of role fishing, so I ignored it. He didn't say that

it is

mentioned in the Role PM though, as then he wouldn't have needed to explain it in details the way he did.

My guess is the scum team got one role from each of the "presumed" categories, and Xlos thus assumed one PR and one VT from each (or something like that) so it still would have benefited Scum to know that kind of info to plan their pushes and NKs.

Right, it's not in the role PM, but my role is a technique in analysis, so I assume that all roles are techniques in analysis, algebra or geometry. From this, you can deduce your role location. I was actually thinking that the scum team would have random 'guessing' techniques that weren't from these categories, like using OEIS (https://oeis.org/A002219) to figure out what a sequence is given the first few terms. Anyways, in the case you mentioned, it definitely benefits town more than mafia to know about all roles: it gives a really strong deductive power - if one scum is annihilated, then we immediately get a bunch of confirmed town, and scum are basically done for immediately. So if it is true, then town definitely benefits from everyone making this claim. If it's false, we still benefit since we get some information based on where people decide to claim that we can use later. The only case that this is bad for us is if it's false AND there is some role that depends on where you are from. But this seems extremely unlikely - it means that Ircher thought about the locations, made roles and flavor about them, and then made the flavor wrong. So before you guys decide if you want to annihilate me, you should convince yourself that the idea I proposed is actually bad for town. Cause I can't see it.

Xlos what the hell did I just read?

[Ircher]

Day 1 VC #4

Flea The Magician (1): Toogeloo (52)

Xlos (4) (E-3): Almost50 (32), DrippingGoofball (74), MURDERCAT (79), Titus (100)

Almost50 (0):
Jake The Wolfie (2): Jake The Wolfie (14), nomnomnom (15)
Galron (1): Xlos (31)
T3 (1): Galron (81)
Titus (2): WhemeStar (72), T3 (75)
WhemeStar (0):
MURDERCAT (2): Flea The Magician (33), theslimer3 (62)
nomnomnom (0):

Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to fade a player.

Deadlines

This phase will end no later than Saturday, July 10, 2021 9:45 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-07-10 21:45:00).
This phase will end no earlier than Monday, June 28, 2021 9:45:00 PM EDT or in (expired on 2021-06-28 21:45:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, please inform me each week.
2: Please let me know if you have a different pronoun preference than listed below.

3: Thesp's vote counter is really picky. While I said I'd allow abbreviations, it would be very helpful if you try to conform to the spelling of the player's username as much as possible. Case matters as well.

If anyone knows how to do nicknames with Thesp's counter, please let me know. (I much prefer MathBlade's tool in terms of accuracy, but it isn't hosted online like Thesp's.)

Pronoun Key

1: DrippingGoofball : It
2: Flea The Magician : Fae/faer
3: Xlos : He/him
4: Almost50 : He/him
5: Jake the Wolfie : Any
6: Galron : He/him
7: theslimer3 : They/them
8: T3 : He/him
9: Titus : She/her
10: WhemeStar : He/him
11: MURDERCAT : He/him
12: Toogeloo : They/them
13: nomnomnom : He/him

[theslimer3]

Did the mod include a JESTER???

Nope, they did not include Not_Mafia

Oh snap Not_Mafia is still around?

[Jake The Wolfie]

Nope, but MeMe is.

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

I don't believe so, TM is all I remember

Why did you ask this, out of curiosity?

[T3]

Did the mod include a JESTER???

Nope, they did not include Not_Mafia

Oh snap Not_Mafia is still around?

Yep.

[WhemeStar]

T3 how do you value your reads

[WhemeStar]

I’m debating being your personal sheep or not

[Toogeloo]

I can't imagine sheeping T3 willingly.

I don't scum read xlos currently. DGB is aggressive enough that the push is NAI as well.

I'm actually ok leaving my vote on Flea for now too.

[Toogeloo]

I've been driving for 5 hours though, so I may not be thinking clearly right now lol.

[T3]

T3 how do you value your reads

Depends on the pace of the game.

[Jake The Wolfie]

Yeah, but have you seen me play in other games?

I don't believe so, TM is all I remember

Why did you ask this, out of curiosity?

I wanted to get some more information out of your plays.

[Titus]

Interesting Wheme, why?

[WhemeStar]

Interesting Wheme, why?

Game is going slow so I thought a omgus 1v1 would be interesting

You voted somewhere else though

[Almost50]

Nope, but MeMe is.

In fact, he still is indeed.

[Almost50]

This is indeed the slowest start of a game I've been in for the past 6 months. I'll blame it on the weekend and hope that it becomes a bit more active in the next 48 hours.

Also: Umlaut, Murdercat & nom have one scumster between them. I don't think it's nom but I can't guarantee it either.