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MalcolmTucker Mafia Scum
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Cool, only worry would be for town if Geraint goes in the night is, how best to differentiate between Nero/Rathe for final mafia? Which was why I'd have felt prolonging D4 might do some good to try and sort between them. But both are taking a similar line on me and I'm town so you might not get much there. Suppose town can have one more miselim after me too and still win on the final turn.-
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geraintm Jack of All Trades
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yeah, if you're town and geraintm dies in the night we eliminate one of nero cain/rathe and then the other if necessaryIn post 2825, MalcolmTucker wrote:Cool, only worry would be for town if Geraint goes in the night is, how best to differentiate between Nero/Rathe for final mafia? Which was why I'd have felt prolonging D4 might do some good to try and sort between them. But both are taking a similar line on me and I'm town so you might not get much there. Suppose town can have one more miselim after me too and still win on the final turn.love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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@jacksonvirgo
sorry for getting upset
it is okay if you dislike me or how i play or if you think i am bad
i also do not like me and think i am not particularly good at this game
but it is NOT okay to compare me to a child
and if geraintm was mafia there you were quite literally their win condition and it was frustrating to me that you seemed willing to play into that
even still the mafia win condition here is getting the confirmed towns to doubt me
it is difficult for me to pick something to point to and say, see i am town! as to me that is everything i have done throughout the game,
but if i had to pick something it would probably be my interactions with scorpious
so like joint iso me and scorpious and read through that it never ever comes from scum/scum and if you still have questions for me after then i am here and willing to answer and such
like if you need me to walk you through my thought process at any time or anything, just ask
and if you don't want to do that, then please just believe in me here
the solve is {nero cain, rathe}love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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I realize that I might have to be flipped just to game solve but I hate being MLed so lets vote scum instead.
VOTE: ratheOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Andresvmb He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Hi fellow confirmed palIn post 2838, Andresvmb wrote:I want to talk to JV. I’ll be back later.-
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angela Goon
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can we just win the game please i don't understand what is happening now
like if either of you still have some issue with me at this point please just talk to me or whatever it is you do to sort someone
otherwise yeah let's just win the game
like geraintm was almost certain i am town, i already had to push to eliminate a mafia that both of you were trying to prevent,
and the game would just look absolutely nothing like this if i were mafia here,
like we eliminate nero cain or rathe
if mafia yay town wins
if town, then the other is mafia
they will nightkill one of you and then predictably say, 'ah i guess it was angela all along' or whatever
and we then we will vote them
and once again, yay town wins
and the only thing that can prevent this is your gathering here
like the mafia can't win the game for the mafia, only town can
and that is exactly what whoever the mafia is here is hoping for as it is their only play
and i am tired and i am frustrated and i would like for the game to be over and i would like for town to win
i don't really understand why it feels so difficult to get us across the finish line herelove goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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angela Goon
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like the series of events you'd have to think were orchestrated for me to be mafia here is completely absurdIn post 2840, angela wrote:i don't really understand why it feels so difficult to get us across the finish line here
like i didn't push scorpious day one and have an extremely draining series of interactions which partly led to scorpious claiming mailman and then push scorpious day two while claiming my check as i did while now thinking scorpious's claim was fake to then fight through everyone to still have scorpious be eliminated and flip as a mailman as mafia i just didn't
and there would have to have been so many of those
when the series of events for nero cain to be mafia are 'voted scorpious when it seemed like would be eliminated but then unvoted when people were battling for scorpious and never revisited'
and for rathe it is slightly more complicated sure but i still do not think it is really comparable
and not only would it be absurd for me to have done those things as mafia,
but i have also done lots of protown things!
like yes i messed up day one already stated i take full responsibility for that and will apologize again to not mafia in post game
but otherwise yeah since start of day two i think i've been maybe not our greatest asset because kittytacky played very very well here and geraintm solved the rest of the game for us
but useful ya know
like i feel like i have been useful herelove goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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angela Goon
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and!! scorpious tried to get me eliminated claiming the message sent to meIn post 2841, angela wrote:and there would have to have been so many of those
and tried to push both me and kittytacky at the beginning of the day before having to change tact because i later in the day claimed kittytacky's friendly neighbour message
when scorpious would have been aware of friendly neighbour if scorpious and i were partnered and thus none of their play would actually make sense
like i said there are just so so so so so so so many of theselove goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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You don't have to worry, you're confirmed via the kill. I put shade on you yesterday so you wouldn't die over gerain.In post 2840, angela wrote:can we just win the game please i don't understand what is happening now
like if either of you still have some issue with me at this point please just talk to me or whatever it is you do to sort someone
otherwise yeah let's just win the game
like geraintm was almost certain i am town, i already had to push to eliminate a mafia that both of you were trying to prevent,
and the game would just look absolutely nothing like this if i were mafia here,
like we eliminate nero cain or rathe
if mafia yay town wins
if town, then the other is mafia
they will nightkill one of you and then predictably say, 'ah i guess it was angela all along' or whatever
and we then we will vote them
and once again, yay town wins
and the only thing that can prevent this is your gathering here
like the mafia can't win the game for the mafia, only town can
and that is exactly what whoever the mafia is here is hoping for as it is their only play
and i am tired and i am frustrated and i would like for the game to be over and i would like for town to win
i don't really understand why it feels so difficult to get us across the finish line here-
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hm,In post 2845, JacksonVirgo wrote:if scum was in rathe/nero. Killing gerain was kinda useless. But then again, they were dead regardless.
But why over me and andres who were confirmed.
well mafia!rathe would have to always kill geraintm, right?
because otherwise redchecked and even if wins the one v one today would just be eliminated tomorrow,
like there would be no other path forward
and mafia!nero cain would kill geraintm because otherwise rathe is confirmed, like there would be two confirmeds today regardless, because of the check
so for mafia!nero cain it would be weighing having to eliminate angela/geraintm vs having to eliminate angela/rathe to win
so maybe rathe would have more hard incentive to immediately kill geraintm but nero cain also somewhat incentivized and the 'rathe first tho' sort of thing is kinda what i'd expect here from mafia
though i haven't really been spending much time trying to determine which of the two is actually more likelylove goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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I believe you to be Town primarily because with gerain alive scum!you would have a reason to throw suspicion on gerain for the "too many TI" case I was forming yesterday. Also gerain alive/dead does not matter if scum is outside of gerain/nero/rathe.In post 2847, angela wrote:
hm,In post 2845, JacksonVirgo wrote:if scum was in rathe/nero. Killing gerain was kinda useless. But then again, they were dead regardless.
But why over me and andres who were confirmed.
well mafia!rathe would have to always kill geraintm, right?
because otherwise redchecked and even if wins the one v one today would just be eliminated tomorrow,
like there would be no other path forward
and mafia!nero cain would kill geraintm because otherwise rathe is confirmed, like there would be two confirmeds today regardless, because of the check
so for mafia!nero cain it would be weighing having to eliminate angela/geraintm vs having to eliminate angela/rathe to win
so maybe rathe would have more hard incentive to immediately kill geraintm but nero cain also somewhat incentivized and the 'rathe first tho' sort of thing is kinda what i'd expect here from mafia
though i haven't really been spending much time trying to determine which of the two is actually more likely
I am waiting for Andres to pop in before I want a hammer.
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