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...I think meg is right. Hmmm-
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If they were scum they can qh farren
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I think dungeon's probably Drew.
Farren jumping is weird and annoying, but the narrative Meg has of him doing so to avoid the three stack isn't possible because I was the first one here. Drew joining immediately out the gate though was probably the best way for scum to guarantee not getting caught together. Get in early, make sure no one else joins and you're good.
Unfortunately there's no external proof of this unless Elements flips green, but if she's scum she's game throwing so. Hopefully it was just Nona.-
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Unless scum wants to delay the flip so you can sell this theory...
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If he were intending to aid Elements it was a poor attempt as he posited your win in Palace.In post 647, Nona1510 wrote:
Taly what do you think? Uninformed and paranoid or trying to help out their buddy Elements here?In post 596, Radical Rat wrote:
I mean, it doesn't help that Meg's picked you as the preferred Palace vote, but also there's like. A billion layers of WIFOM here. Does Meg support their partner and risk looking aligned? Does Meg support Town to make themself look better? Does Meg support Town to frame them after their own flip?In post 554, Taly wrote:
ThisIn post 494, Radical Rat wrote:Ironically, probably Nona. I don't think she's faking not understanding things at this point,
and while I would LIKE to trust you... I also trusted Meg and now I'm paranoid I was just completely wrongreallybothers meRat, because the implication is that you thinkMeg/Iare S/S and you aren't even discerning our interactions.
Your suspicion of me is understandable but the rationale feels cheap as fuck.
This setup in general is just a massive winery, and I don't really know how to penetrate it tbh
But uninformed? I doubt. The confusion feels overstated and not in proportion to the intent to gamesolve aside from trading Meg post for post."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage-
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Though I guess in this case it would have to be Herta and not Drew...In post 653, Radical Rat wrote:Unless scum wants to delay the flip so you can sell this theory...
Or you could just be bussing Farren. But I don't see how what he did is substantially different from what Nona did, and I doubt multiple scum would be in a hurry to out themselves that way...-
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Nona1510 Goon
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But you weren’t scumreading me?In post 648, MegAzumarill wrote:
Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.In post 646, Nona1510 wrote:
Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?In post 643, MegAzumarill wrote:
Because I thought you posted after the voteIn post 629, Herta wrote:
How was i IC before this post?In post 624, MegAzumarill wrote: In other news herta is now an IC.
Ok it was late don't judge me
Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machine-
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Rat/ele/farrenIn post 656, Nona1510 wrote:
But you weren’t scumreading me?In post 648, MegAzumarill wrote:
Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.In post 646, Nona1510 wrote:
Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?In post 643, MegAzumarill wrote:
Because I thought you posted after the voteIn post 629, Herta wrote:
How was i IC before this post?In post 624, MegAzumarill wrote: In other news herta is now an IC.
Ok it was late don't judge me
Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machineImprefection is the spice of life.-
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Okay, maybe Rat is scum, because there’s no way you still think it’s me. And how is Elements game throwing? Neither me or Taly was ever going to vote her.In post 652, Radical Rat wrote: I think dungeon's probably Drew.
Farren jumping is weird and annoying, but the narrative Meg has of him doing so to avoid the three stack isn't possible because I was the first one here. Drew joining immediately out the gate though was probably the best way for scum to guarantee not getting caught together. Get in early, make sure no one else joins and you're good.
Unfortunately there's no external proof of this unless Elements flips green, but if she's scum she's game throwing so. Hopefully it was just Nona.-
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I’m starting to think I really am a town hero and Rat is scum now because I don’t believe their Farren/Drew reads and I think Rat is trying to mislead Herta.In post 657, MegAzumarill wrote:
Rat/ele/farrenIn post 656, Nona1510 wrote:
But you weren’t scumreading me?In post 648, MegAzumarill wrote:
Farren, because they went their when they were supposed to be paired with my biggest 2 scum reads instead.In post 646, Nona1510 wrote:
Meg, Rat, who’s scum in the dungeon and why?In post 643, MegAzumarill wrote:
Because I thought you posted after the voteIn post 629, Herta wrote:
How was i IC before this post?In post 624, MegAzumarill wrote: In other news herta is now an IC.
Ok it was late don't judge me
Either way now we all know you're a mean green scumhunting machine
Rat claimed to hard scumread Farren yesterday, going on and on about how I took their spot with FARREN and Elements.-
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I said "hopefully" because if it wasn't Elements, it has to also not be Taly to win.
And Elements would be game throwing here because if she is scum, they just voluntarily allowed Town to win. Which if that's the case, I'll take it, but it doesn't make sense to do.-
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Here we go again.-
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If the team is me/Elements/Farren, why do I join Court when I know Elements and Farren are in line to join next? Why wouldn't I have pushed harder to get in the Palace? Or just offered to go Dungeon instead?-
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Nona1510 Goon
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How? They voted Taly right after I said I was never voting them and Taly has 0 reason to lie here. Elements was never getting voted by either me or Taly, so not gamethrowing.In post 660, Radical Rat wrote: I said "hopefully" because if it wasn't Elements, it has to also not be Taly to win.
And Elements would be game throwing here because if she is scum, they just voluntarily allowed Town to win. Which if that's the case, I'll take it, but it doesn't make sense to do.-
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It is, literally, throwing the game though. If you want to argue it's justified in these circumstances, maybe, but it IS throwing. And if I were scum in Elements's position, I wouldn't be doing it.-
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Nona1510 Goon
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Well I beat you to palace and I said I would vote only Meg or Taly, so if neither were in palace, I would have self-voted over you.In post 662, Radical Rat wrote: If the team is me/Elements/Farren, why do I join Court when I know Elements and Farren are in line to join next? Why wouldn't I have pushed harder to get in the Palace? Or just offered to go Dungeon instead?
You said that you took my slot iirc and what motivation do you have to pick dungeon over court? Scum has to IC a court member not a dungeon member and since we know Bella’s IC and I strongly townread Herta, why wouldn’t Elements have picked court? Zero chance of three scum in hood but it’s so beyond obvious that Elements is the palace scum now, so how are you even doubting that at this point?
Palace is done and both Taly and me claimed town and Elements said nothing. No one in the palace has any reason to lie at this point and if Elements suddenly says they’re town here, mine and Taly’s flips should prove otherwise.
I just don’t see how you arrived at Drew scum, Farren town suddenly, based on what?-
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I’m saying Elements wasn’t winning the devotee vote no matter what. Neither me or Taly were ever going to vote them. Had they not voted Taly, I probably was going to. So perhaps Elements just wanted to silence both of us? Maybe that’s the motive?In post 664, Radical Rat wrote: It is, literally, throwing the game though. If you want to argue it's justified in these circumstances, maybe, but it IS throwing. And if I were scum in Elements's position, I wouldn't be doing it.
But it doesn’t matter, they’re confiscum here but explain why Farren is town and Drew scum? Honestly it kind of sounds like you’re salty scum here pissed at your teammate,-
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I was probably wrong about Drew scum based on Meg's IC comment on Herta.
It could still feasibly be Farren and Meg's bussing, but bussing is probably a bad plan here? Especially if Taly is legitimately Town here, Meg would know Palace was already lost, so bussing another area would need to be some galaxy brain WIFOM shit.-
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Here’s what I think Rat, I think you were maybe hoping to paranoia me on Taly so that I would self-vote and maybe no devotee gets elected if Taly didn’t vote me or maybe you were hoping that Taly would think we’re buddies and paranoia vote Elements?
Idk but you suddenly calling Drew scum for pretty much no reason after hard scumreading Farren yesterday makes no sense.-
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I did forget that you get silenced post-flip. Maybe it is just Elements then...
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How are you still even questioning that? We’re all getting flipped first and Taly has no reason whatsoever to lie here.In post 667, Radical Rat wrote: I was probably wrong about Drew scum based on Meg's IC comment on Herta.
It could still feasibly be Farren and Meg's bussing, but bussing is probably a bad plan here? Especially if Taly is legitimately Town here, Meg would know Palace was already lost, so bussing another area would need to be some galaxy brain WIFOM shit.
Meg also wanted me to vote Taly and now you’re arguing she’s bussing Farren? She autoloses in that case. Herta already pointed that out, If we get both palace and dungeon, we win, so it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever for Meg to bus here and I now think you and Elements were distancing each other.-
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Why are you trying to get Drew flipped over Farren? What has Farren done to try to solve here? Sure it’s possible it’s Drew but really don’t think so.In post 669, Radical Rat wrote: I did forget that you get silenced post-flip. Maybe it is just Elements then...
Regardless, doesn't change much
Elements/Farren/Rat
is my current solve because I think you’re being really sketchy.-
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Scum!Meg would be the one gamethrowing here if she bussed because scum autoloses and I think you know that. Herta said we win both palace and dungeon, it doesn’t matter what happens in court.-
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Rat you’re conveniently forgetting that people do read.In post 604, Herta wrote:
I know I won't change your mind, but I want to be on record.In post 600, Nona1510 wrote:I prefer dungeon, court, palace. I think the court solve is the most important one and the most difficult one of the three because my current solve is Elements/Farren/Meg?
And I want a say in that, sorry Taly, you’re just going to have to have patience.
The reason for this is because on the face of it Court will be the most difficult group to solve. If we knock out the other two first, and they're both town wins, Court gets endgamed and Bella doesn't need to make that decision.-
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In post 672, Nona1510 wrote: Scum!Meg would be the one gamethrowing here if she bussed because scum autoloses and I think you know that. Herta said we win both palace and dungeon, it doesn’t matter what happens in court.
Scum isn’t going to bus.During Day 2, there will be 3 concurrent activities at each location, withthe faction which gains control of the most locations being the overall winner.
I’m okay with dying now that I’ve solved the game: Elements/Farren/Rat. If there’s even the remotest chance of Farren flipping town, Bella still lim Rat.
But I don’t think Farren’s flipping town here.
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