Skygazer wrote: ↑setup info wrote: 13p mini normal w/ daytalk & multitasking scum
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question: role cop on informed goon just returns "informed," correct?
i'm tempted to make the mafia 1-shot simple cop a 1-shot complex cop because the idea of mafia finding a miller is really funny to me and it makes slightly more sense as a fakeclaim with this setup imo.-
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I think the switch to complex cop works
And yes it only sees it as 'Informed' without the information, similar to how it just flips as informed without the informationNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I will say that I think the chance the miller doesn't claim is low and therefore unfortunately the funny cop interaction is unlikely to happenNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Well the Miller would claim SoD1 as is standard but it'd be funny if that wasn't meta-
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ah okay. i was more thinking like "informed goon" is obviously not the right result so would the wording be like "informed" or "informed vanilla" or what. but that's just my classic overthinking
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setup info wrote: 13p mini normal w/ daytalk & multitasking scum- town innocent child mason
- town roaming babysitter mason
- town 1-shot pt cop
- town 1-shot role cop
- town vengeful miller
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- vanilla townie
- mafia 1-shot complex cop
- mafia 1-shot vanilla cop
- mafia informed goon (four players in this game have roles that start with "1-shot" and end with "cop.")
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changelog:
- 1 shot simple cop ~> 1 shot complex cop
- changed 1 shot complex cop's results messages-
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I think it's a valid question, a lot of these role interactions are not very intuitive
But yeah this seems like... Roughly equivalent to the 3 clears/friends and enemies style of game in terms of balance, since the pt cop's target is mostly clear, with a little extra on both sides. I think i'd be willing to pass as is
In terms of player enjoyment, the mafia might get angy if they kill a mason claim and it turns out to be a babysitter. Mafia generally tend to get angry when power roles hurt them, and a situation like this where they make the obvious play and get 'punished' without really having any way to avoid it might make it worse. I don't think it's a massive deal balance wise, and I'd still pass it as is if you want to stick to this but if you want, it might help to like, make the mason something else or make the complex cop a bit more powerful, like 2 shot or something to give the mafia 'counterplay against it'? Idk just my takeNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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hmmm yeah the babysitter has some extra salty scum potential when combined with the vengeful
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i would love to see NM roll IC. stupid ethicality.
vengeful miller is probably the one role that could get away with not claiming miller in my eyes but yeah they still likely claim anyways-
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Mm yeah sure. Mafia might still be salty if they try and kill the IC n1 and fail but I feel that's within the realm of what you'd reasonably expectIn post 14, Skygazer wrote: hmmm yeah the babysitter has some extra salty scum potential when combined with the vengeful
what about just making them a roaming doctor mason?No matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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I guess maybe mafia could use a *slight* power boostNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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since before the babysitter targeting the ic had an obvious risk to it and now that's not a thingNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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hmmm loyal babysitter mason?-
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that could feasibly get a soft guilty actually hmm-
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1-shot combined jailkeeper vanilla copNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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Wait no this isn't discord I should stop shitpostingNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.-
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what about making the informed mafioso a babysitter finder?
town innocent child mason
town roaming babysitter mason
town 1-shot pt cop
town 1-shot role cop
town vengeful miller
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
vanilla townie
mafia 1-shot complex cop
mafia 1-shot vanilla cop
mafia informed babysitter-finder (four players in this game have roles that start with "1-shot" and end with "cop.")-
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Lmao sure that worksNo matter what happens, I'll be right there with you.
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