my cop cover was just tooo goodIn post 4947, Alisae wrote: Jason should have died n1.
He made it very obvious he was informed when it came to his approach on the millers.
Instead Sakura dies N1.
Bob should have died N2.
Jason's D2 start as well as his interactions w/ Norwee at the start of the day made it very obvious he had information.
Instead Sheep dies N2.
Mini Normal 2306: Game Over
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If the mafia had better players, they totally could have handled this situation before it became too problematic.-
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this is funny to say, but I think the reality of the situation is that wolves just weren't paying attention or hunting for roles.In post 4950, sheepsaysmeep wrote:
my cop cover was just tooo goodIn post 4947, Alisae wrote: Jason should have died n1.
He made it very obvious he was informed when it came to his approach on the millers.
Instead Sakura dies N1.
Bob should have died N2.
Jason's D2 start as well as his interactions w/ Norwee at the start of the day made it very obvious he had information.
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Sakura also made herself very obv that she was likely just a Vanilla.
No reason to shoot her over Jason just because she can't be limmed.-
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fwiw I think the setup is to be expected given it is the normal queue and how NRG balances their setups.
If it was just 1 cop and no backup cop, by normal queue standards, this setup would be wolfsided.-
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the fuck is wrong with youIn post 4952, Alisae wrote: If the mafia had better playersShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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thing to remember is normal games always lean towards townsided so there was a hole in town power so something should of been expect and hu and norw were the only players that it could be-
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Yeah my cop ability did feel a bit cheap, but i think i hid the fact i had it decently well by just appearing to be very chaotic as an player.
I also thought that if i acted extra harsh towards Aisa yesterday then the assumption was that if Fire was scum then they were more likely to keep me for endgame, thus allowing me to check them on that night. Which is what ended up happening.
Gonna use every advantage i have.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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i thought you were a cop for a minute. By the time i figured out you were not the night ended and we didn't get to change kills.In post 4950, sheepsaysmeep wrote: my cop cover was just tooo good
I was probably not going to flip it to Bob though. So it wouldn't have made a difference in the endShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I was always going to keep you to endgame even if you hard scumread me.In post 4958, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Yeah my cop ability did feel a bit cheap, but i think i hid the fact i had it decently well by just appearing to be very chaotic as an player.
I also thought that if i acted extra harsh towards Aisa yesterday then the assumption was that if Fire was scum then they were more likely to keep me for endgame, thus allowing me to check them on that night. Which is what ended up happening.
Gonna use every advantage i have.
Hu was too inactive for me to want in endgameShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Anyway that was a really wacky setup lol.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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I think it was a bit too janky for its own good to be considered all that balanced.
But it certainly was fun, and i didn’t expect something like that in the Normal queue.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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im fine with releasing scum pt. nothing i want to redact.
can see me having fun as Norwee has me pinned downShow"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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Fire having fun?
That’s getting censored right away.Norwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Ngl, a big factor in me going a bit over the top was that i found your reactions anusing.In post 4942, Aisa wrote: Norwee being Backup Cop explains some of his flip flopping, which was kinda driving me crazyNorwe is spontaneous, has a stream-of-consciouness posting style, usually posts on catch-ups by commenting on past pages posts, gets rather fired up in certain moments in games, is relatively as playful as me in games and likes casual shitposting
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Humph. I'll just have to get back at you for it at some point~-
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i imagine aisa trying to think of a bad nickname for u now.Show"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown-
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I had already given my scumreads at that point. I was going to let everyone else talkIn post 4939, Firebringer wrote:
TrueIn post 4936, Alisae wrote: Fire never shoots Norwee lol
even when its advantageous like taking hu to end game when she isn't playing or doing anything was probably smarter, but then i have to be like 'yeah i didn't guard norwee'. Or you know lie and say for a third time there was a failed BG.
Honestly after my second failed bg i should have been instant elimmed. The plan was to kill me after we killed bob but the game made a wild shift onto Nurse.-
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I have no issues with the no kill tbhCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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It was also smart of Fire to white knight me when they did because I had to town read them.
But yeah, my Random Nurse analysis Day 3 was top notch, and I had that right since Day 1.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Also, Hu Tao said Alisae and I lead too many 'town wagons'
I lead one on Takutai. I defended Osuka tremendously on Day 1, and if y'all just actually did work, it was obvious I was town with 2/3 scum team solved.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I agree that the setup was probably townsided overall, but I don't think it was so townsided as to be forcefeeding a victory.
With nearly half of the Town being Millers, and all four of them at least soft claiming by D1, there was an extremely narrow pool for PR hunting AND for viable cop targets. What happened here, from my perspective, is that scum fucked up by not noticing Jason's sudden strong townreads (cop indicative), and shooting a claimed Miller instead. Up until that point, scum had the game locked down, and even after it was pretty much up in the air until the last night.
I do agree with Firebringer on the setup restricting scum's options, and though that was partly intentional, I get the frustration there. I'll probably not try something similar if I end up running more games in the future.
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