Random Nurse wrote: ↑ Hello implosion. I was informed by Datisi that I needed to PM you with my setup and about finding reviewers for my closed Normal game.
I'm also the alt of wake1, and have been a member since 2013. Could you share with me the form I need to fill out too, please?
I have the role PMs here:
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- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:
- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:
- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:
- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:
- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:
- This setup is closed and Normal.
have Daytalk.Mafia
also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Random Nurse's Mini Normal Review, August 2023 (Released)
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
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- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
Random Nurse's Mini Normal Review, August 2023 (Released)
Last edited by Ausuka on Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:00 am, edited 3 times in total.-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
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- Joined: September 9, 2010
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
Primary: mastina
Secondary: implosion-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
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- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
My basic first impression is that it's maybe balanced? If not I'd err toward it's a bit scumsided. It's definitely pretty swingy.
Cop is obviously very strong, loud tracker is also a good role vs multiple multitasking scum roles where it might be able to guilty them + clear their targets, and doc to be able to follow-the-investigative is also a good role. But multitasking roleblockerandrolecop is a lot of counterplay. The fact that there's a miller is probably good just so that there's some doubt cast on the safety of info from 2 investigatives.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Hello! I'm here.
Whatever switches it requires to be balanced I'll be happy with.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
If I turn off Multitasking for Scum would it make the game too Townsided?-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: September 9, 2010
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
It might increase swing in that it'd be super painful for scum to lose members because they'd be double-whammied by not being able to use their powers + the tracker becoming stronger.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
- False Prophet
- False Prophet
- Posts: 16670
- Joined: October 7, 2016
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: Between Snohomish and Monroe, WA
Sorry, I missed the review pm until now, apologies. It slipped through so I didn't notice until now. My bad.
So, setup is:
VT x 5
Miller
Neighborizer
Loud Tracker
Cop
Doctor
vs.
Informed Goon
Multitasking Roleblocker
Multitasking Rolecop
To be honest, I do think this is as-is swingy but balanced. It depends a lot on the roles. If the mafia roleblocker goes down, the town has a follow-the-cop, which is very strong. But, if the mafia roleblocker lives and the cop or doc die, then the town is left with very little in terms of power.
Since the mafia know about the cop, can search for the cop, and can block/kill to find the cop, I think the mafia have the tools for counterplay, and I don't think the town needs more power. But it IS very swingy, depending on the key roles. I think I'm okay with it.
Small formatting thing, though; the sample town role PM listed doesn't match the typed out vt role PM; it needs to.
I also need to see what the result PMs for the investigatives look like, as well as the Loud result.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Random Nurse wrote: ↑
I have the role PMs here:
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- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:- This setup is closed and Normal.
- have Daytalk.Mafia
- also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
In post 7, mastina wrote: Sorry, I missed the review pm until now, apologies. It slipped through so I didn't notice until now. My bad.
So, setup is:
VT x 5
Miller
Neighborizer
Loud Tracker
Cop
Doctor
vs.
Informed Goon
Multitasking Roleblocker
Multitasking Rolecop
To be honest, I do think this is as-is swingy but balanced. It depends a lot on the roles. If the mafia roleblocker goes down, the town has a follow-the-cop, which is very strong. But, if the mafia roleblocker lives and the cop or doc die, then the town is left with very little in terms of power.
Since the mafia know about the cop, can search for the cop, and can block/kill to find the cop, I think the mafia have the tools for counterplay, and I don't think the town needs more power. But it IS very swingy, depending on the key roles. I think I'm okay with it.(1)
Small formatting thing, though; the sample town role PM listed doesn't match the typed out vt role PM; it needs to.(2)
I also need to see what the result PMs for the investigatives look like, as well as the Loud result.(3)
(1)Any recommendations to smooth out the swinginess, please? If it's fine as is, that's good too.
(2)Fixed.
(3):
Town Cop gets a result of "Town," "Mafia," and "No Result" if roleblocked.
Loud Town Tracker gets a result of either "This player did not target anyone tonight," "This player targeted *Player Name* tonight," or "No Result" if roleblocked. The person successfully targeted with the Loud Town Tracker role will get a result of "You were targeted by *Player Name* with a Loud role tonight."-
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
- False Prophet
- False Prophet
- Posts: 16670
- Joined: October 7, 2016
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: Between Snohomish and Monroe, WA
Well, a tool which would potentially reduce swinginess is to add a universal backup to both teams, probably gated.
For instance, a 1x universal backup for the town, allowing a single use of the first TPR dead; a 1x universal backup for the scum (making the informed goon be an informed 1x universal backup), allowing one use of their first pr to die.
That could, in theory, introduce a weird mechanic of a 1x Miller, because millers count as a power role, and it would reduce the number of VTs in the game.
A possible bypass would simply be making the Miller be a Miller 1x Universal Backup.
But these are just options. The setup is passable as-is, just really swingy. Swing can be reduced with something like the above, but with this sort of setup, never fully removed.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
If it's OK with you, let's try the bypass option.
Let's make the Miller also a 1x Universal Backup.
If that's OK, as soon as I can access my laptop I'll update that role PM.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Random Nurse wrote: ↑
I have the role PMs here:
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- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:- This setup is closed and Normal.
- have Daytalk.Mafia
- also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
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mastina She/HerFalse ProphetShe/Her
- False Prophet
- False Prophet
- Posts: 16670
- Joined: October 7, 2016
- Pronoun: She/Her
- Location: Between Snohomish and Monroe, WA
Wording clarity;
This should be clarified to make it clear they can only use the inherited role once.This ability can only be used once, when the first Town-allied PR dies.
"This inherited ability can only be used once" would do it.
Without a scum ub accompanying the town one, the setup is tilted more towards town, but I think it's still in the balanced realm (although in postgame players may complain and say it was townsided). If implosion thinks it's fine, I'm willing to pass it though.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
If I make the Informed Mafia Goon also a 1-Shot Universal Backup, would that tilt it back into more Scum-favored?
Also, do the Universal Backups HAVE to be locked into their alignments, or can a Mafia Backup inherit, say, the Town Doctor's role?-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: September 9, 2010
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
Sorry I've been a bit slow to see this, was on vacation.
I think 1-shot universal backup is technically an invalid role. The problem is that universal backup inherits the first allied non-VT to die, so if there were e.g. a town neighbor, the UB would become a 1-shot neighbor, which is a nonsensical role. It's sort of awkward but UB plays by special rules when it comes to modifiers.
While putting the UB on the miller avoids this for this setup, it's still a problem because a savvy 1-shot UB will notice it, and see that it essentially implies that there are no passive roles in the town, which means they could get a free counterclaim against a mafia member who unwittingly fakeclaims miller or mason or vengeful, etc. I view normal roles as essentially a language, and "1-shot universal backup" as a syntactically invalid sentence in that language.
I think there are some other ways to reduce swing that could work. One idea is to make the cop novice, and make the roleblocker even-night and the rolecop odd-night. But I do agree with mastina that the setup doesn't *need* a change to reduce swing to be passable.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Implosion, I'm worried that as is the game may be too Town-sided. Should I add something more to Scum to tip the balance slightly, or add another Miller to the Town?-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: September 9, 2010
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
I don't think 2 millers is the way to fix balance, there's always a risk with 2 millers that you get into a painful counterclaim situation that just ruins the game. I don't think the scum really need more either, they've got 2 full ungated strong roles plus knowledge that there's a cop.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
In that case, should I just leave that slot as a Miller?
What if we also inform the Goon that there's a Miller, too?-
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implosion he/himPolymathhe/him
- Polymath
- Polymath
- Posts: 14558
- Joined: September 9, 2010
- Pronoun: he/him
- Location: zoraster's wine cellar
You could inform them in theory, so they know not to claim it unless they want to be in a counterclaim, since there's a chance they see "there's a cop" and think "oh i'll fakeclaim miller then". Other than that miller is likely to claim d1 so it won't affect much.
Like mastina said (and I agree with), balance is probably fine since scum have a lot, it's just somewhat swingy (which is not perfect, but is also okay, and I don't see a great solution to reduce it since I think 1-shot UB isn't a real role).-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Is this setup good to go?Random Nurse wrote: ↑
I have the role PMs here:
___
- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:- This setup is closed and Normal.
- have Daytalk.Mafia
- also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Also, I'm hoping to implement osuka's auto-votecounter and I'm hoping it works. Do you guys know of any other auto-VC programs that work?-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Fixed.Random Nurse wrote: ↑
I have the role PMs here:
___
- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:- This setup is closed and Normal.
- have Daytalk.Mafia
- also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
I think there's a couple more changes I want to add.-
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Random Nurse He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2830
- Joined: April 29, 2023
- Pronoun: He/Him
Random Nurse wrote: ↑
I have the role PMs here:
___
- Mafia would have Daytalk
- Mafia have Multitasking
Setup here:
Rules
General:- Please adhere to the site rules.
- Do not discuss this game of mafia outside of this game thread or the private threads of this game. However, anyone who wishes to spectate may PM me to join the Dead PT.
- Anyone in the game may request a personal confessional thread to use however they see fit. This thread counts as private communication, and therefore cannot be directly quoted from.
- Days will be 14 days long.
- Night phases will last 48 hours maximum. On any given night, if all players PM me that they are okay to speed up the night, it will end sooner.
- During the Night phase, no talking may be done in the thread.
- Do not quote PM's from the mod at all (real or fabricated). This includes specific timestamps and that sort of meta-data. Please ask me if you're uncertain whether something breaks this rule. Paraphrasing is acceptable.
- If you have any questions about your role, or the game, feel free to PM the mod.
- Dead players may not post. This includes "bah" posts and the twilight phase before each Night phase.
Voting / Player Actions:- Vote with vote tags (VOTE: Random Nurse). Note that nicknames, abbreviations, and acronyms are acceptable, as long as the intended vote is obvious. I will state if a vote isn't obvious.
- Osuka's auto vote-counter will be used for this game.
- Don't try to confuse me with your votes.
- An execution will occur once a majority decision is reached. If no majority is reached, the day will end peacefully. A majority decision is decided by half of the playerbase +1 vote.
- Following an execution, it is twilight. Living players may continue to post until I lock the thread and declare it Night.
- If you have a night Action, you may submit it from Night 1 and each subsequent Night (or whichever nights are specified by the role). If you don't submit an action I will count it as taking no action, but I prefer if you tell me that you're taking no action.
Activity:- You are expected to post at least once every 48 hours. If you haven't posted for 48 hours, I will prod you. If you do not respond to the prod within 24 hours (either in thread if it's the Day phase, or via PM during the Night) then I will replace you.
- As well, if you accrue more than three prods, I will force-replace you.
- If you decide to replace out, PLEASE PM me and don't post in thread after doing so. If you want to rescind the replacement please PM me again and don't post in thread until you hear back.
Misc:- No impossible/hard to read text, or cryptography. For example, I would prefer that no font size smaller than the one you're reading now be used.
- The mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
- If you need to get the mod's attention, either PM me, or bold the text you wish to draw to my attention. PM'ing me works best.
- I reserve the right to alter/remove/add any rules as I see fit. You will, of course, be notified if that happens, however.
Setup Information:- This setup is closed and Normal.
- have Daytalk.Mafia
- also have Multitasking enabledMafia
Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
I made a couple changes.
1) I added a Bulletproof Vanilla Townie. I also informed the Mafia that X-player is a Bulletproof Vanilla Townie: I figured that'd be funny and entertaining. I considered making that BP VT Informed, knowing that the Mafia know, and making the Mafia Informed that THEY know X-player knows. That'd be very funny.
2) So the Mafia knows exactly who the BP VT is.
3) I was worried about a Follow-the-Cop situation, so I made the Town Doctor both Novice and Lazy, so it can't protect Night 1 and loses its ability if only 1 Scum exist.
4) At this point the BP VT doesn't know the Mafia knows who and what they are. I tried finding a modifier to further weaken the BP VT but couldn't really find any. I REALLY want to use more of the "Informed" modifier because you can make the game way more interesting.
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I've put it in signups. Some notes on role PMs (all minor/nitpicky):
-Using "Normal Vanilla Townie" is fine, but just be wary that there's a chance some player will try to call someone else town for knowing the proper name or that someone will claim just VT and get called scum for it; I personally prefer standardized naming for that reason.
-I think "Bulletproof vanilla townie" should technically be "town bulletproof", as a vanilla townie is a townie without any role. This could be confusing e.g. in a setup with a vanilla cop (which this doesn't have but it's best to be safe, scum could always fakeclaim it etc)
-Town win condition shouldn't explicitly say how many mafia are in the game unless it's publicly 3:10 in which case that should be listed in the setup information area.
-The "Mafia have multitasking enabled" setup info is probably redundant with mafia actually having the multitasking modifier; I'd just remove the modifier from them if they're multitasking by default, especially since there's no rolecop or town role that interacts with the modifier specifically.
-Lazy doctor should say the ability will fail, not that they "can't use it" anymore (because the lazy modifier can exist in games where it's not public how many scum there are, for instance - they're still allowed to try)
-The miller role PM says the cop's result would be "guilty", but the cop says "town", "mafia", or "no result" - these should be made consistent probably (and also, it's good to pre-write all possible result PMs from power roles and show them here as well, if you haven't yet)
-Another small consistency thing: if the cop's role PM says that they can receive "town", "mafia", or "no result", then it's good if the tracker's role PM also explicitly mentions that they may receive no result (and that this is different from "your target visited nobody").
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